I have no idea why you keep thinking I'm talking about n1. I'm talking about n2, the night where Koshi died and you chose to save Oats rather than Koshi and said that you thought you should have healed Koshi.

I'm not completely convinced one way or the other but I'm going to do what I can to make sure I make the right decision.
I read that in lylo it is actually optimal to lynch the person that appears "more pro-town" and that they are usually the mafia.

Mafia is making these shots. Why did they pick off WoS and S&B in a game when there are so many high priority people they could pick off.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 14:27 GMT

#3922

The shots don't really line up with an Oats/Vayne scum team.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 24 2013 14:29 GMT

#3923

So why would i shoot WoS? Or Koshi?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 24 2013 14:30 GMT

#3924

On September 24 2013 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So why would i shoot WoS? Or Koshi?

And for the record I COULDN'T EVEN HAVE SHOT KOSHI BECAUSE VAYNE WOULD HAVE BEEN ROLEBLOCKED AND THAT'S NOT POSSIBLWEAKDSLL!!! PFFFF!!!

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 24 2013 14:49 GMT

#3925

rayn , why would I ask the mod question about the vet roleblock thing if I was scum and just did that the night before? i would already know the answer. I don't get why you think I have to be scum. I know you are town unless he is seriously messing with us through the characters but i dont believe that to be the case

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 14:52 GMT

#3926

Oats mentioned 2 shot mafia vigilante so it's not impossible. I'm just going to ignore that speculation because I don't know if 1 shot or 2 shot or 3 shot mafia vig makes the game more balanced.

Why would Oats/Vayne make those shots. They could have shot people capable of analyzing the game like you or Pandain and chose to shoot at those people who weren't a threat to them. When I had said that I thought you were SK I explained how they made sense as your shots and it still makes sense to me.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 15:01 GMT

#3927

On September 24 2013 23:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
rayn , why would I ask the mod question about the vet roleblock thing if I was scum and just did that the night before? i would already know the answer. I don't get why you think I have to be scum. I know you are town unless he is seriously messing with us through the characters but i dont believe that to be the case

Because the idea that Koshi could have been RB shouldn't have even crossed the mind of somebody who was just Roleblocked. Afterwards you said something that made me think that you didn't understand the role.

There are fake claims in the game... are you seriously basing your reads off of characters??

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 24 2013 15:05 GMT

#3928

unless you are trying to figure out the game? and now I find myself in a place where it actually matters. If roleblocking does nothing to koshi then I can't be framed, but since he can it now looks like it is possible for me to be mafia based on the roleblock, and scum knew since then they know there is no SK this whole time.

and yes I don't see why 3 of the 4 main characters would be in the game and the 4th is randomly just a fakeclaim for scum. All the fakeclaims so far have just been random stuff ive barely heard of.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 15:09 GMT

#3929

On September 25 2013 00:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
unless you are trying to figure out the game? and now I find myself in a place where it actually matters. If roleblocking does nothing to koshi then I can't be framed, but since he can it now looks like it is possible for me to be mafia based on the roleblock, and scum knew since then they know there is no SK this whole time.

and yes I don't see why 3 of the 4 main characters would be in the game and the 4th is randomly just a fakeclaim for scum. All the fakeclaims so far have just been random stuff ive barely heard of.

that is like the worst reasoning I've heard. How many fake claims have you seen? 2? and because those 2 were not one of the 4 main characters then Mia cannot possibly be a fake claim.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 24 2013 15:14 GMT

#3930

idk dude, it's not only that. the heuristic also stays true since I was wrong about the framer. +doctor = +mafia power role it just wasn't a framer like I thought since the kills make no sense from a scum standpoint so I didnt even think of vig. from my POV shots were WOS/koshi then SNB/koshi and I was roleblocked because I faked being a vig earlier in the game apparently. didn't know if anyone actually looked at it but apparently they did.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 15:16 GMT

#3931

On September 25 2013 00:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk dude, it's not only that. the heuristic also stays true since I was wrong about the framer. +doctor = +mafia power role it just wasn't a framer like I thought since the kills make no sense from a scum standpoint so I didnt even think of vig. from my POV shots were WOS/koshi then SNB/koshi and I was roleblocked because I faked being a vig earlier in the game apparently. didn't know if anyone actually looked at it but apparently they did.

Why do I get the impression that you don't give a shit about being lynched. that's not a normal townie response, especially when it would basically make you responsible for losing the game.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 24 2013 15:21 GMT

#3932

haha if you think this game is on me you are insane, rayn didnt tunnel you this entire game. and you're right I dont care at this point. nothing is going to change his mind so I lost, you win grats

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 15:27 GMT

#3933

On September 25 2013 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
haha if you think this game is on me you are insane, rayn didnt tunnel you this entire game. and you're right I dont care at this point. nothing is going to change his mind so I lost, you win grats

You have the game "solved", you've completely ruled out Rayn/Pandain from being scum and then rather than writing up why Oats and I are Mafia you just sulk in pity over how Rayn has voted you.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 15:30 GMT

#3934

Frankly I will blame you if you get mislynched and flip town because you aren't even trying.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2013 15:31 GMT

#3935

Rayn may be tunneled but I can't say that he isn't trying to solve the game.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 24 2013 16:34 GMT

#3936

Scum team:Grack VA
Town: Pandain Oats Rayn.

Rayn cant be sk or scum wouldve shot him.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 24 2013 18:42 GMT

#3937

well looks like gg at this point, regardless if its rayn/pandain or grack/oats they both still retain a vote meaning town can't win. GGWP see you at endgame

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 24 2013 19:19 GMT

#3938

Pandain, wtf are you doing?

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

September 24 2013 19:32 GMT

#3939

What? I assume grack is town and know you are town.

Also I think we should vote oats instead of Vayne because in scenarios where grack is Mafia oats is more likely

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 24 2013 19:33 GMT

#3940

grack isn't going to vote his scum buddy so yea you need to convince rayn at this point ive already tried