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On September 17 2013 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Talking about the vote switces, why would BH vote for Zealos and Pandain switch to blubbers if they were scum together? If there is one townie who switches back to OP (remember i was yelling that at the end of D1) it's ensured BH gets lynched. I think everyone was confused. So I wouldnt say that this makes Pandain and BH not scum together. You can't really call scum confused can you? They have QT to discuss things and make plans. Townies yes, were likely confused. I mean, if we assume Zealos is scum aswell. Would BH and scum take a risk of having 2 scum wagons opposed to one town wagon where if one townie swittches votes scum dies? in a 5 minute span? No way effective communication happens. It's not a 5min span. The voteswitch on OP happened 5:12-5:14. Lynch was 7:00. That's nearly 2 hours for scum to figure out how to get out of that shit.
not that dude. the part where OP voted for zealos and pandain voted for bubbles.
Isnt that what we are talking about?
Also, look back at n1, SnB was like the second probable lynch man. After OP. and he was scum roleblocked which pretty much makes it hard to lynch him??? Thats horrific scum play. And it didnt happen. Town RB's that arent JK's exist too man.
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Even 3. With OP being scum, only 1 of Pandain, Grack and SnB is scum as well.
Otherwise they showed SERIOUS FACE.
Grack is least scummy.
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Grack isnt scum, why are we still discussing this Koshi?
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Imagine all 3 scummers vote switching in last 3 minutes. lololol.
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On September 17 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Grack isnt scum, why are we still discussing this Koshi?
I am discussing it with Kushimushi.
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On September 17 2013 21:22 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Talking about the vote switces, why would BH vote for Zealos and Pandain switch to blubbers if they were scum together? If there is one townie who switches back to OP (remember i was yelling that at the end of D1) it's ensured BH gets lynched. I think everyone was confused. So I wouldnt say that this makes Pandain and BH not scum together. You can't really call scum confused can you? They have QT to discuss things and make plans. Townies yes, were likely confused. I mean, if we assume Zealos is scum aswell. Would BH and scum take a risk of having 2 scum wagons opposed to one town wagon where if one townie swittches votes scum dies? in a 5 minute span? No way effective communication happens. It's not a 5min span. The voteswitch on OP happened 5:12-5:14. Lynch was 7:00. That's nearly 2 hours for scum to figure out how to get out of that shit. not that dude. the part where OP voted for zealos and pandain voted for bubbles. Isnt that what we are talking about? Also, look back at n1, SnB was like the second probable lynch man. After OP. and he was scum roleblocked which pretty much makes it hard to lynch him??? Thats horrific scum play. And it didnt happen. Town RB's that arent JK's exist too man.
Town RB might be possible with SK.
PS: roleblock Vayne!
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On September 17 2013 21:22 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Talking about the vote switces, why would BH vote for Zealos and Pandain switch to blubbers if they were scum together? If there is one townie who switches back to OP (remember i was yelling that at the end of D1) it's ensured BH gets lynched. I think everyone was confused. So I wouldnt say that this makes Pandain and BH not scum together. You can't really call scum confused can you? They have QT to discuss things and make plans. Townies yes, were likely confused. I mean, if we assume Zealos is scum aswell. Would BH and scum take a risk of having 2 scum wagons opposed to one town wagon where if one townie swittches votes scum dies? in a 5 minute span? No way effective communication happens. It's not a 5min span. The voteswitch on OP happened 5:12-5:14. Lynch was 7:00. That's nearly 2 hours for scum to figure out how to get out of that shit. not that dude. the part where OP voted for zealos and pandain voted for bubbles. Isnt that what we are talking about? Also, look back at n1, SnB was like the second probable lynch man. After OP. and he was scum roleblocked which pretty much makes it hard to lynch him??? Thats horrific scum play. And it didnt happen. Town RB's that arent JK's exist too man.
Yes, that makes me think they are not scum together. They had 2 hours. The fact that they acted in the last 5 minutes speaks in favor of them not being scum together, because Pandain was here, BH claimed he lied about not being here. If they were scum they HAD TIME TO DISCUSS THE LYNCH when the votes did pile up on BH. If they were scum together they WOULD have that 2 hours and they would not have made a risky shitfest like that imo.
SnB was not the second lynch. I was the only one pushing that (besides Zealos and Grack agreeing with me). Tbh that was not gonna happen, for real. Too many people disgreeing with me. Even if i was right and SnB was scum there was no way i was gonna get him lynched.
I think we should let SnB talk for himself now and D3. I am a bit confused, do you think he is scum or not?
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Oats, if Pandain or SnB is scum, why did they try to push kush & Zealos instead of easy blubbers?
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On September 17 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, if Pandain or SnB is scum, why did they try to push kush & Zealos instead of easy blubbers?
Yeah this is a good point. Zealos had 1 vote before SnB, Grack, Pandain & OP switched. And I think there was at least 1 hour after Umasi, rayn and WoS went to OP. But would OP die that easily? We can be certain that he was in the scum QT.
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On September 17 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, if Pandain or SnB is scum, why did they try to push kush & Zealos instead of easy blubbers?
Why not? Easy blubbers was easy.
Town was already lynching blubbers for them. And that isnt to say that Kush or Zealos werent as easy.
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The only reaction I see after Umasi, rayn and WoS went to OP is Zealos adding a 4th vote to Kush instead of being alone on SnB,
On September 14 2013 06:34 Zealos wrote:
Pandain seems town, so I guess I trust you. Whatever :3
##Vote: Kush
This was the reason.
Looks bad for Zealos.
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Oats you are being dumb. What has grack done? Nothing. His fakeclaim wasnt townie at all. It is out of place and makes no sense. Panda makes his one d1 appearance to say the fake claim it's good (lol).
Also he ends up claiming vt, which is pretty terrible as town.
Kochi I think two of those three changed their votes.it's very possible.losing scum d1 is very bad for scum.
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But would BH ruin his cover to buss a scummer? It's the best way if you want to claim BlazingHand + Survivor and you think there is no survivor because there is an SK.
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Pandain is town.
Grack is town.
SnB might be scum.
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On September 17 2013 21:40 kushm4sta wrote:
Oats you are being dumb. What has grack done? Nothing. His fakeclaim wasnt townie at all. It is out of place and makes no sense. Panda makes his one d1 appearance to say the fake claim it's good (lol).
Also he ends up claiming vt, which is pretty terrible as town.
Kochi I think two of those three changed their votes.it's very possible.losing scum d1 is very bad for scum.
There are 4 people that changes votes last second:
OP, Pandain, Grack, SnB
You are saying all 3 scummers were switching?
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On September 17 2013 21:40 kushm4sta wrote:
Oats you are being dumb. What has grack done? Nothing. His fakeclaim wasnt townie at all. It is out of place and makes no sense. Panda makes his one d1 appearance to say the fake claim it's good (lol).
Also he ends up claiming vt, which is pretty terrible as town.
Kochi I think two of those three changed their votes.it's very possible.losing scum d1 is very bad for scum.
So Grack as scum decides to Fakeclaim Vet when their kp is blocked and they dont know why?.
uh.
ok.
The stupidness of his claim makes him town.
It was horrific. But it makes him town
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OATS why !no!
Why is that true? The assumptions you are making are bad and wrong. Same is true for Rayne w with his vote analysis.
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@Kochi yes.scum team was obviously hugely in panic.
Debears was afk.
Bh couldn't do anything because he claimed to be afk.
Scum was in a bad position. They moved from two separate people to two separate people.
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Oats do you have strong scumreads?
What about Vayne?
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On September 17 2013 21:46 kushm4sta wrote:
OATS why !no!
Why is that true? The assumptions you are making are bad and wrong. Same is true for Rayne w with his vote analysis.
Bad claim = town claim.
Every fucking time.
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EPT
