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Hopeless1der
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/sheep oats ##Vote: tutankoopa fer realz doe On August 29 2013 08:19 Tutankoopa wrote: ##vote: raynpelikoneet what's the policy?<-- | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On August 29 2013 08:46 yamato77 wrote: Are you reading the thread? Yes? Then you understand the policy. I might understand it, but I still don't know what it is.... | ||
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On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote: 1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play? 2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1? Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain? 1) Scum are more than capable of making Sn0's OP, which in and of itself is a stupid reason for rayn to come up with a town read. However, the part that I felt to be most stupid is that if Rayn is scum, he's revealed himself in all of 2 posts. 2) It doesn't matter what you were planning to do, I see your actions as scummy and I've voted accordingly. Your initial vote was not entirely damning. Dropping things off here + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2013 08:49 Tutankoopa wrote: actually nvm rayn ##unvote "Also") Was stupid the policy? Iuno... | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On August 29 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually would like you to explain me why would scum make a post Sn0 did? Think for a moment you are scum, would you do that? Think for a moment you would. Why would you do that? Demonstrates I'm "actively reading", albeit it's flavor text. Also a moderate amount of paranoia to look like I'm scared of all the things. Furthermore, errant setup speculation is definitely something mafia wants to do to look like they're contributing. As an OP, its a null post. If he were to make that type of post tomorrow, I'd call him scum on the spot. | ||
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On August 30 2013 00:37 Tutankoopa wrote: 1. He's been acting weird about the policy lynch on rayn, attacking me as if he seriously thought that I was dead set on lynching 2. Calls rayn's play stupid afterwards. Calling somebody's play "stupid" while not expressing a scum read on them implies you having a town, or at least not scum read on them. It seemed fake, as if the whole time he's had extra information, and he knows rayn is town and is subconsciously using that to justify his case on people who accuse rayn. Yes I had read his filter and I changed my mind on a reread. Editing takes effort. I've read everything else in the thread but I don't have anything to say about any of it. That is NOT why I think you are scum. Your backpedaling off Rayn, dropping what seemed to be reasonable suspicion with no further reasoning than quoting: On August 29 2013 08:36 yamato77 wrote: this is now entering stupid territory is why i think you are scum TK. | ||
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On August 30 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) But why did you use the exact wording you used in your question to Hopeless? Your answer to me now is nowhere near an answer to the question you asked from Hopeless. It's a completely different thing. 2) Simple question. Why do you post before you have read the whole thread? You never answered me. 3) For real man. Your first post in this game is a direct smurf claim or a scum claim. Do you disagree? 1) He used that wording, and that entire post to draw more attention to the policy and less to why I actually think he's scum. 2) Pretend Oats isn't in that quote at all. Its still a load of wishywashy summary crap. I'm "weird" and me and yamato can't both be scum. [marv, this is what you like? herpderp maybe yam or you scum. nowait Hapa inactive or something hes scum] 3) I'd actually chalk that up to early trolling more than anything else. | ||
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On August 30 2013 01:52 Tutankoopa wrote: Hopeless, look me in the eye and tell me that you think this post... ...implies a serious intent to lynch. If it doesn't, your entire case against me falls apart. How long are you going to keep pretending like you have a real case? Welp theres my case falling apart guys. He got me. I'll go die of dehydration now. | ||
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I'm still harping on TK because, like you, I think he's scum and also that he is misrepresenting my reasons for voting him. | ||
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On August 30 2013 05:49 Hapahauli wrote: Hopeless is probably my strongest scum-read at this stage. His push on TK seems very forced, and he seems more interested in piling shit on TK as opposed to questioning him and trying to figure out TK's alignment. This for example... ...is just shit-flinging. Hopless is in attack-mode and doing little else. I really don't understand the confidence that Hopeless has in his early game TK read, much less confident enough to not ask a single question to TK all game so far and simply push for TK's lynch. This interaction in particular is really worrying for me: TK comes in with a pretty reasonable point and fairly calm-attitude, and Hopeless (with little provocation) responds with this biting sarcasm and basically ignores the point completely. My reasons for voting TK do not (nor have they ever) hinged upon the fact that he sheeped yamato's "policy" vote. Every time TK tries to respond to me, he says "but i wasnt really going to push him". No shit sherlock (insert sarcastic responses here). | ||
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On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote: Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. You just stopped halfway through your thought process. Does not compute. | ||
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On August 30 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote: Do you think that "stopping halfway through one's thought process" is a 100% damning scum-tell? no. His scumreads are (were?) here: On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote: Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list. My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. Thats a load of garbage imo. On August 30 2013 05:49 Sn0_Man wrote: Iunno he seems to be wilfully misconstruing your posting and kinda tunnelling some. Plus a general lack of activity. I don't seriously wish to lynch anybody yet, that stuff starts (for me) in ~20 hrs but I was expecting you to push him a bit more. How about dis: @Hopeless: I assume you are out there somewhere. Why so tunnelled on the smurf? Got any other thoughts on who might be scummy? I'm bored and the people currently around want to lynch Onegu and Sylencia, whom I think are lynchbait atm. Agree? Disagree? I have no problem with sylencia. I get the impression that he actually has been reading filters like he says he is. His suspicions amount to little more than lurkers, but its something. Onegu would probably be lynchbait. Not sure yet. FT has yet to check in with anything meaningful, so for the sake of consolidation I'd consider clearing out the chaff. However, this is plurality so I don't need to worry about him yet. | ||
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On August 30 2013 06:11 marvellosity wrote: Hey all, weird shit going on. A few things before I forget Hapa - what do you think of debears' comments on the 'scumcity' post from Onegu? Also (and genuine question I'd like answered) how are you feeling in general about this game so far? rayn, I said to remind me to comment on that post of yours after Tutan came back, so anyways. It was about him mentioning Oats at the start of the post and rescinding it at the end of the post. You seemed to be quite suspicious of that but to me it seems like a natural flow of consciousness. I don't see how that can be seen as anything worse than null, and is probably a towntell. Hopeless, if you are indeed town then this tunnel is the worst thing in the history of the universe. marv, you are the only one to come remotely close to commenting on my actual reasons for voting TK. Hapa has taken the same reason I call TK scum to call TK town. You essentially agree with Hapa. He is currently trying to round-about his way to explaining that to me, but i simply disagree with you two about the implications of changing your mind so suddenly. | ||
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On August 30 2013 06:16 marvellosity wrote: Tell me what 'town' TK would/should have done? Or why what he didn't couldn't come from town? Or both indeed :p Town anyone should have followed through with the questions to rayn instead of citing "this is stupid" and jumping ship with their vote in tow. If he'd have allowed for even one more post from rayn before unvoting I probably wouldnt be here, but I interpret his actions as being scared to have his vote parked, lest someone (me...) think he was serious about wanting to lynch rayn. That's a wholly scum motivated thought process based on thread context at the time of his unvote imo. | ||
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On August 30 2013 06:24 sciberbia wrote: @hopeless1der 1) What was your genuine read on TK after his very first post of the game in which he voted rayn? Null, slightly scummy, scummy? 2) Why is the following not a plausible explanation for TK's actions: First TK votes rayn for no reason cuz random bullshit phase. Then TK sees rayn doing some pretty confusing shit so asks him to explain. Then TK realizes that rayn is probably town for drawing attention and that his questions to rayn are going nowhere, so he retracts his vote and moves on with his life. 1) null 2) without knowing who TK is, I cannot know his preference for spam at the time of his questions. They seemed reasonable questions to ask (from either alignment, as noted by | ||
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On August 30 2013 06:26 marvellosity wrote: ? you think the vote was serious enough in the first place to warrant needing more posts to unvote? Why make the vote in the first place if he was then going to be scared to leave it parked? Do you think the type of player who'll jump on to a silly policy vote is scared to remove his vote? Has his play seemed scared to you? I'm barraging you with questions because I want to know if you can understand the really obvious alternative. I think I address this in my response to scib. @Hapa Rayn and Oats have already asked/brought up concerns I had, so I would have been parroting them if I asked more questions. I'm not 100% convinced, but he's my strongest read. I don't have legit scumreads formed on anyone else yet. Mostly lurkers bothering me and debears being silly. I figure I'm in a similar boat to your feelings on him. Maybe not so strong as you. | ||
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On August 30 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote: @ Hopeless + TK Where'd you both run off to? Painting my room =\ K question for TK then. Why did you say only one of Yamato/me would be scum? On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote: Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list. My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. Surely you have more than they're weird/shitting on the thread? More recent scumreads perhaps? You never actually stated your own preference when asking Hapa about debears: On August 30 2013 05:29 Tutankoopa wrote: You're obviously the worst person to ask this but would you have still unvoted debears about now had I not asked you that question? What are your thoughts on debears atm? Also, sorry I'm not as forthcoming with my own thoughts at the moment save for my tunnel. I'll reread in a couple hours and go from there. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:44 debears wrote: It's fine. No ones on anyhow. Would be way more epic with everyone here. Can i get a popcorn observers?  | ||
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