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On September 03 2013 08:35 Tutankoopa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Well your other point is that "I spent no time discussion lynch targets", which I find to be pretty false given that I led the consolidation at the end of today (even if it was a mislynch). I was on the fence for most of the day because I've been pretty damn lost this game read wise. Normally I can tunnel a player and get the information I want, but players like yourself, Oats, Alakasam, Onegu, and others I need posts from either are horrendously inactive or absent from the thread when I'm here or something.
SO yeah, my current view on the game is that scum is somewhere in the lurkers and that we have a circle-jerk of active townies who are willing to post. And that's a problem given how many goddamn inactives there are. I want to +1 this. If you guys knew my name+alignment you'd probably be lynching me on the fact that I haven't been foaming at the mouth for much of this game. People don't seem to care lately with the exception of scib all game long and hapa just recently. I have no idea what's causing this, but discussion in this game has proven to be entirely unhelpful. I'm gonna re-read the entire thread sometime before D3 and if anyone has the time, I'd like them to do the same.
The game is probably over at the daypost.
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On September 03 2013 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, that's bullshit because you said you have "changed your mind 3000x times on Oats". You can't possibly have a good read on him if you have done so!
It's called making the best of a bad situation. The two lynch candidates were Slam and Oats. Both of which I have waffled on many times this game. So after looking at them both over the past few hours of the day, I had to make a decision.
And I did.
Tough decision, and a really bad decision in retrospect, but a decision nonetheless.
Then you want to lynch him, of all the inactives who you now accuse of being scum. Because Oats is the most likely of them to stay inactive. Right?
Bullshit.
Of the list I gave, Oats and Slam were the only realistic lynch options.
And I thought Slam was townier. And hell I thought Slam would have been modkilled which is extra incentive not to kill the guy.
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On September 03 2013 08:36 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 08:35 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 03 2013 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Well your other point is that "I spent no time discussion lynch targets", which I find to be pretty false given that I led the consolidation at the end of today (even if it was a mislynch). I was on the fence for most of the day because I've been pretty damn lost this game read wise. Normally I can tunnel a player and get the information I want, but players like yourself, Oats, Alakasam, Onegu, and others I need posts from either are horrendously inactive or absent from the thread when I'm here or something.
SO yeah, my current view on the game is that scum is somewhere in the lurkers and that we have a circle-jerk of active townies who are willing to post. And that's a problem given how many goddamn inactives there are. I want to +1 this. If you guys knew my name+alignment you'd probably be lynching me on the fact that I haven't been foaming at the mouth for much of this game. People don't seem to care lately with the exception of scib all game long and hapa just recently. I have no idea what's causing this, but discussion in this game has proven to be entirely unhelpful. I'm gonna re-read the entire thread sometime before D3 and if anyone has the time, I'd like them to do the same. The game is probably over at the daypost.
That doesn't mean it should be played as if it's over. Anything like this is pure speculation. Hell I suspect that the water-level thing is more of a gimmick as opposed to some snow-ball mechanic for the winning party.
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On September 03 2013 08:36 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 08:35 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 03 2013 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Well your other point is that "I spent no time discussion lynch targets", which I find to be pretty false given that I led the consolidation at the end of today (even if it was a mislynch). I was on the fence for most of the day because I've been pretty damn lost this game read wise. Normally I can tunnel a player and get the information I want, but players like yourself, Oats, Alakasam, Onegu, and others I need posts from either are horrendously inactive or absent from the thread when I'm here or something.
SO yeah, my current view on the game is that scum is somewhere in the lurkers and that we have a circle-jerk of active townies who are willing to post. And that's a problem given how many goddamn inactives there are. I want to +1 this. If you guys knew my name+alignment you'd probably be lynching me on the fact that I haven't been foaming at the mouth for much of this game. People don't seem to care lately with the exception of scib all game long and hapa just recently. I have no idea what's causing this, but discussion in this game has proven to be entirely unhelpful. I'm gonna re-read the entire thread sometime before D3 and if anyone has the time, I'd like them to do the same. The game is probably over at the daypost.
If nightkills determine points, yeah. That also would mean that if somebody had died N1 and we mislynched like we did D2, the game would have been over with this recent lynch. I'm just gonna hope that the water mechanic isn't that imbalanced.
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Dear Serial Killer. If you want to stand chance of winnig this game shoot Hapahauli or Tutankoopa. Please.
goodnight town!
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On September 03 2013 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dear Serial Killer. If you want to stand chance of winnig this game shoot Hapahauli or Tutankoopa. Please.
goodnight town!
Why do I even bother talking to you >>
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Well Yamato if you're not going to be around like you said you would, I'm going to take a break.
Also, if anyone wants a santiy-break from this game, I'mma going to try to hos tsome voice mafia games at 8:30 EST on TeamSpeak (exactly 40 minutes from this post).
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I forgot my password for the smurf account, tried to password reset, then forgot the email account associated with it.
Oh well
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On September 03 2013 11:15 thrawn2112 wrote:I forgot my password for the smurf account, tried to password reset, then forgot the email account associated with it. Oh well
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Oh twas thrawn
<3
Considering the water level is at 900, one more mislynch will set scum over the top (if we even get to that point).
We should consider having all the blues claim to help give a boost in that scenario after the night.
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Btw Hapa and Scribs,
How many scum do you think we have amongst the actives?
I just have a gut feeling there is at least one. I really think 2 is the true answer doh
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@debears
If you define the actives as: me, you, hapa, marv, rayn (5)
Which would make the inactives: yamato, syl, slam, onegu, Sn0_man, TK (6)
My best guess is 1 anti-town in the actives and 2-3 in the inactives
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On September 03 2013 12:04 debears wrote:
Btw Hapa and Scribs,
How many scum do you think we have amongst the actives?
I just have a gut feeling there is at least one. I really think 2 is the true answer doh
I don't know if I like framing things like that. Maybe there's 1 active scum, but it's doubtful we're going to catch them unless we find the lesser one(s) first.
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Ah fuck.
I am so sorry all I did not expect work today but am able to look at stuff from there. I legitimately forgot in frustration with load times on my phone.
Heck I just came over from aperture expecting a different deadline -_- at self
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If it isn't too much I think I am willing to try tomorrow. Deadline is 4:00 Wednesday or Thursday right?
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So how did that happen? Can we kill slam plz or modkill him. I am catching up now but when I checked I wasnt expecting to see oats dead...
@sn0 can you respond to my question?
@Alakaslam what did those +1 +5 -1 mean and how did you arrive at those numbers, also what are your thoughts of syl? Hapa?
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Now people who have played with thrawn before. Is he town or scum?
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We probably lose at daypost if a townie dies, but whatever. I'll give out my non-Hapa reads.
Sn0 looks like mafia. 4 page filter for day 1, and managed to find himself on both town wagons. Since then, he's done absolutely nothing except decide that Oats was a better lynch than Slam out of nowhere.
If I'm right about Sn0, Slam is also probably mafia. Has done nothing all game and is even less useful than he is in Aperture at any given time. Hopeless was also the main lynch target D1, and him replacing out seems more likely if he is mafia than if he is town in that situation.
TK being thrawn means he's almost certainly not scum, but I still like my 3P read on him. He gives just enough of a fuck that I'm sure this isn't scum thrawn, but not enough for me to want to give him a town read. I feel like he's posted more out of a survival instinct than anything.
Also, still rather convinced of Hapa. I don't see scib/debears/marv/rayn/syl as mafia. Onegu mighty be mafia who is bussing Slam for THE CREDZ but I like my conspiracy theories better.
Anyway, GG scum, you played well.
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Going in order of posts to expand on my sn0 question.
First
On August 30 2013 23:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
TBH I'm not sure who is a better vote than Alakaslam right now anyway. I'm willing to lynch oats but I feel like that its more intelligent to leave him around a bit longer, get more info out of him.
Sylencia is another option, although apart from his very early stuff that has been done to bits I don't see what else would incriminate him.
I'm not sure who else is a real candidate. Onegu is playing as I expect him to, which might be unfortunate but really doesn't make me want to lynch him. None of Marv/Hapa/Yam are remotely lynchable at this point. Sciberbia picked it up a ton.
Actually reading Tofu makes me plenty happy to lynch him, although at the same time I really question a scummer posting that lol.
I don't think koopa is a real lynch. If nothing else he's been reasonable to rayn, quite above and beyond the call. Which leaves bears but I once again feel that he deserves at least another day.
TL;DR: I still wanna lynch Alakaslam.
PS: maybe it wasn't clear, but I read most of yesterday and essentially never bothered posting once hapa got going because he was saying pretty much everything I thought about the thread. Only substantially more eloquently.
Wants to lynch Alakaslam as he is the best lynch option, is ok with a FT lynch.
On August 30 2013 23:54 Sn0_Man wrote:I'm actually getting more interested in taking this approach, mostly to be fair to alakaslam since replacing in as the prime lynch candidate with 8 hours to lynch is horrendously unfair.
Wants to give slam a chance and move onto FT
On August 31 2013 00:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Tofu's filter is 2 posts. Not so bad.
Not sure but I think this is him backing off of FT because his next post is.
On August 31 2013 00:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Changed my mind. After a read-through of Syl's filter I detect implied guilt, uselessness and a solid amount of completely unecessary apologetics (okay thats a fancy way of saying implied guilt).
I could lynch that guy too if it comes to that.
Current lynchee's I'd vote for:
Alakaslam
Sylencia
On August 31 2013 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Erm, and probably tofu. I disagree that full lurkers are *never* scum, although I admit its probably not useful enough to lynch him right now. Still, I could lynch him right now.
These posts go together.
Not a complete back off of FT but he first says Slam and Syl are the main lynches he would choose. Then FT if he had to.
On August 31 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Continuing what hapa says, this coin flips at a rate of around 75% town simply due to probability.
Yes he needs to not play like this but lynching him isn't really the best choice day 1. I'd need a lot of shining beacons of towniness everywhere else to lynch tofu right now, although if he shows up and doesn't improve that could change.
But now a almost complete back off of FT.
On August 31 2013 05:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well as far as I'm concerned all of a sudden we have too many reasonable lynches lol (aka our votes are spread already :/).
Syl/FT/Alakaslam are all people I'd lynch plus we have a fair portion tunnelled on koopa.
Since not having my vote on anybody makes it a bit harder for consolidation, I'm going to
##Vote: Alakaslam
however I'm currently quite willing to be convinced on any of those 3.
Finally puts his vote down on slam, but back to being ok with a FT lynch.
On August 31 2013 05:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
PS Sciberbia or debears wanted to know why oats isn't on my list (forget who).
Mostly its because I feel like if we give oats a bit more rope he could hang himself with it. I feel like I'll get a reasonable read on him given time whereas I'm not convinced my read on say FirmTofu is gonna advance so well and I find tofu just as scummy. Why lynch somebody who will eventually become transparent?
Now oats is scummy, but earlier he said the reason oats was scummy was 100% meta. Also here he talks about FT is just as scummy.
On August 31 2013 07:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright I can do the tofu lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: FirmTofu
I don't think that slam deserves to live but it makes more sense to consolidate etc etc. Hilarity has its upsides as well.
Off of slam and right onto FT. While of course earlier it was unfair to lynch slam, but now he doesnt deserve to live.
On September 02 2013 08:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmm weekends suck.
I've read most everything, and I feel like for now Oats is the person I'm interested in most. He just doesn't feel like the town-presence oats I expect. If he's town I should *know* it by now. I'm not even getting close to a town vibe from him and his excuses are shit like "you guys only think i'm scum because I don't have a 10 page filter" which is a terrible excuse.
Rayn is wildly full of shit but I've known that since like minutes into D1. It feels anti-town but it did last game too and he flipped town. I still kinda wanna kill him though.
I still feel like Onegu is a poor lynch *but* its possible that because he feels like he is stepping up his game what that really means is he is getting some pushes from the scumqt or whatever. He bears watching but I'm not too interested in his lynch yet.
Most everybody else has a read ranging from null to town so I don't feel the need to discuss them.
FWIW I doubt there is an SK in this setup simply because the points mechanic would be even harder to balance with an SK thrown in.
Now oats is his main scum read. Is willing to kill rayn and now I need to be looked at because I am upping my game?! But no mention of Alakaslam who deserved to die.
On September 02 2013 08:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh yeah forgot Alakaslam he looks awful but not inherently scummy. I'd be interested in lynching him if osmebody could come up with a case that made him look scummy not retarded. Really I think I need to go over how the lynch went down yesterday because I'm pretty sure there was a scum candidate in there somehwere.
Realizes he forgot alakaslam, but now he needs convinced alakaslam is scum not just retarted.
On September 03 2013 06:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmm apologies all for nonexistant activity. Weekends and all that.
Lets lynch oats. Hapa seems like a terrible lynch. Slam is an acceptable substitute but I don't feel like we are learning as much if we lynch him. He feels coinflippy whereas Oats feels scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Votes oats but says slam is a acceptable subsitute but we get more info from a oats lynch?!? And then we dont hear from him again.
TLDR; sn0 is insanely wishy washy on alakaslam going from he should die to he shouldnt die its unfair to he deserves to die again to Ill only vote for him if someone convinces me he is scum. It really looks like some light bussing then defense if things get to hot.
Alakaslam/sn0 scum team.
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