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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 31 2013 03:39 GMT
#1241
Me and rayne had the same read on FT I did for the same reasons he was just tunneled into you.
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Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 03:43 GMT
#1242
Last time I checked, you're not rayn.

I don't know if I care if there was any merit to whatever meta reasons you were talking about. (Btw, please explain them because I didn't follow the first time I saw rayn bring them up.) FT had 2 posts. Do you know how many town-explanations there are for somebody posting twice and then afking? Have you never seen that before? Yeah, meta could have meant he was scum, but that was nowhere close to being more likely than any town-based explanation for his actions.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 31 2013 04:14 GMT
#1243
On August 31 2013 11:45 Sylencia wrote:
The one I'm currently worried about though is Slam, look at this filter coming into this game - absolute spam :|

BUT I'm vt. So if you don't want me to spam I can slow it down.

Asking for reads though? Better be satisfied with "oats is town, Raynepelikoneet is town, ONEGU is town, I am town, and marv is null." Will have to do. I am too nervous to lead a mislynch, and I can't reason why anything is scummy. My WIFOM scale is as broad as the pacific, everything is WIFOM to me.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 04:31 GMT
#1244
On August 31 2013 13:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 11:45 Sylencia wrote:
The one I'm currently worried about though is Slam, look at this filter coming into this game - absolute spam :|

BUT I'm vt. So if you don't want me to spam I can slow it down.

.


It's not frequency, it's content.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 31 2013 04:52 GMT
#1245
hey tutan is rayn scum for tunneling you like shit?
No gg, No skill.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 04:55 GMT
#1246
Why don't you read the last 10 posts or so, the answer's there.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 04:58 GMT
#1247
Oats why did rayn say that you two are masons?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 31 2013 05:04 GMT
#1248
no clue, im not masoned with him.
No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 31 2013 05:08 GMT
#1249
lmao
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 31 2013 05:10 GMT
#1250
thanks rayn
No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 31 2013 05:11 GMT
#1251
I don't know why I'm not mad right now lol. Just can't believe rayn actually changed the lynch by claiming mason.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 31 2013 05:24 GMT
#1252
Because im town and more useful than FT.
Why was I even a day 1 lynch option anyway?????
Low activity and 'blending in' arent exactly something that only scum do.
im not blending in, I just happen to have reads that arent particularly retarded. Scib, why did you want to lynch me?
No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 31 2013 05:36 GMT
#1253
@Oats
sorry i don't feel like writing any serious posts right now. See my filter. I will probably end up revisiting you if I'm still alive tomorrow.

Actually OK I will at least do the work of finding the relevant posts for you
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 30 2013 14:26 sciberbia wrote:
What do you guys think of Oats? Maybe it's partly because he did the vast majority of his posting while I was sleeping, but he seems very 'under the radar' to me. I have no good reasons to think he's town, and a few parts of his filter make me raise my eyebrows:

-- insistence that TK is scum based solely on his opening rayn vote and posting some wishy wash reads. This just seems like a very easy case for Oats to make and could be easily fabricated. I don't see any spark of analytical insight, which I think I'm correct in expecting from a town Oats.
+ Show Spoiler [oats insisting] +

On August 29 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
tutankoopa scum
## vote tuntankoopa

On August 29 2013 08:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
not gonna post for the next 10+ hours, have fun guys.

lynch tuntokoppa dude.

On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning

anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either

DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER????


what the fuck is wrong with you?

He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum.
Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town.

On August 29 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.

My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted.

Like this post just wiggles all around the place and he takes no hard stances throughtout the game so far.

On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that?
Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things?
Thats kinda why I think he's scum.



-- speaking of easy criticisms, he repeatedly criticizes rayn, which would be fine if he ever went somewhere with it, but he doesn't, and in fact outright says he doesn't think rayn is scum, so why all the criticisms? To try to make rayn look bad? Why?
+ Show Spoiler [criticisms] +

On August 29 2013 08:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
you voted for him after his single post.
What the fuck rayn.

On August 29 2013 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no fucking idea why you would vote for someone then 5 minutes later say that they are town.
NO CLUE.
Also that post doesnt make him scum or town. Remember Titanic?

On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.

Marv wanna lynch Rayn?

On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine.

On August 29 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine.

Could you be more specific because i really do not understand?

Picking a day 1 lynch by process of elimination is horrible.

On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post.

nah.


By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ?

shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1?

By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum.

On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.






I will be very interested to see where he goes next since it seems he has been sleeping/busy since this game really got rolling, but for now he is another one I'm leaning scum on.

On August 31 2013 07:06 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Sciberia - lend me your wisdom/calmness a bit. Is Oats still your strongest read?

@hapa
yea so I was just making another post on him and I think that's the direction I want to go.

Here is my summary of his first day of posting, which was scummy.
+ Show Spoiler [me] +

On August 30 2013 14:26 sciberbia wrote:
What do you guys think of Oats? Maybe it's partly because he did the vast majority of his posting while I was sleeping, but he seems very 'under the radar' to me. I have no good reasons to think he's town, and a few parts of his filter make me raise my eyebrows:

-- insistence that TK is scum based solely on his opening rayn vote and posting some wishy wash reads. This just seems like a very easy case for Oats to make and could be easily fabricated. I don't see any spark of analytical insight, which I think I'm correct in expecting from a town Oats.
+ Show Spoiler [oats insisting] +

On August 29 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
tutankoopa scum
## vote tuntankoopa

On August 29 2013 08:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
not gonna post for the next 10+ hours, have fun guys.

lynch tuntokoppa dude.

On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning

anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either

DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER????


what the fuck is wrong with you?

He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum.
Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town.

On August 29 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.

My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted.

Like this post just wiggles all around the place and he takes no hard stances throughtout the game so far.

On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that?
Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things?
Thats kinda why I think he's scum.



-- speaking of easy criticisms, he repeatedly criticizes rayn, which would be fine if he ever went somewhere with it, but he doesn't, and in fact outright says he doesn't think rayn is scum, so why all the criticisms? To try to make rayn look bad? Why?
+ Show Spoiler [criticisms] +

On August 29 2013 08:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
you voted for him after his single post.
What the fuck rayn.

On August 29 2013 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no fucking idea why you would vote for someone then 5 minutes later say that they are town.
NO CLUE.
Also that post doesnt make him scum or town. Remember Titanic?

On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.

Marv wanna lynch Rayn?

On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine.

On August 29 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine.

Could you be more specific because i really do not understand?

Picking a day 1 lynch by process of elimination is horrible.

On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post.

nah.


By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ?

shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1?

By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum.

On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.






I will be very interested to see where he goes next since it seems he has been sleeping/busy since this game really got rolling, but for now he is another one I'm leaning scum on.



Notice how at the bottom I conclude that he's been scummy so far, but in fairness I point out that he hasn't had too many chances to contribute yet. Well what has he done today? Nothing at all.

His re-entrance to the thread was very suspicious to me and I agree with what you and marv wrote about it. He just completely back-flipped on all his previous reads to conform with thread sentiment.

He has also had the chance to contribute towards this lynch but has completely refrained from doing so. I honestly don't know what he has been doing since he first disappeared from the thread like 30 hours ago. At least Sylencia is genuinely sleeping right now.

I'd like to add that all of his posts seem completely unconstructive to me. That is the vibe I get from him. It's like he is just sitting around in the thread, debunking other people's ideas when he sees an opportunity, without making any sustained push of his own. He has also spent an inordinate amount of time criticizing other players, especially rayn, which strikes me as scum motivated.

I don't know why I'm not getting more support for an Oats lynch but I hope that changes. I think I'd actually be surprised to see Oats flip town which I can't say about anyone else right now.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 31 2013 05:42 GMT
#1254
@Oats
Btw if you're town I'd rather you spend your time bringing some original analysis to the thread than breaking down my posts and defending yourself or whatever.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 31 2013 09:46 GMT
#1255
So i fucked up by leaving my keys in when going to smoke a cigarrette and could not get back in..
Okay Onegu's explanations make no sense to me. Especially his reasons for voting FT.
table for two on a tv tray
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 10:05 GMT
#1256
On August 31 2013 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i fucked up by leaving my keys in when going to smoke a cigarrette and could not get back in..
Okay Onegu's explanations make no sense to me. Especially his reasons for voting FT.


better than me. just burnt two holes in my shirt out smoking

also what is your stance on marv post lynch. i'm hoping for more than a fakeclaim as a response
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1257
I mean, i asked Onegu to read some games where FT was in and tell me what he does think, and his only follow up on that was "i guess he was scum in titanic?". That's like.. no. And now he claims he had a meta-read on him? No dude, you did not.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 31 2013 10:07 GMT
#1258
On August 31 2013 19:05 Tutankoopa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i fucked up by leaving my keys in when going to smoke a cigarrette and could not get back in..
Okay Onegu's explanations make no sense to me. Especially his reasons for voting FT.


better than me. just burnt two holes in my shirt out smoking

also what is your stance on marv post lynch. i'm hoping for more than a fakeclaim as a response

I dunno. I need to re read the thread before commenting on that. I especially did not like marv not commenting on my cases on you in any constructive way but just call me stupid and then chiming off.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 31 2013 10:09 GMT
#1259
Also you possibly can't tell if Oats is mafia from D1. That's something you can't do. You might be able to tell if he is town but not if he is scum. I do not like marv's "meta-read" on Oats, because he specifically said after Ego that he can't meta-read Oats any more as he was completely wrong on him in that game and afaik he has not played with him since besides Basterd.
table for two on a tv tray
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 31 2013 10:20 GMT
#1260
On August 31 2013 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, i asked Onegu to read some games where FT was in and tell me what he does think, and his only follow up on that was "i guess he was scum in titanic?". That's like.. no. And now he claims he had a meta-read on him? No dude, you did not.


Rayn I have played in more games with FT than with anyone else. Titanic was one of the few in which I hadnt played with him. I have seen his town play, I have seen his lurky town play this wasnt either of those things. Ill pull the post where I give my own meta analysis instead of just going off of what you told me to read.

On August 31 2013 03:48 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:40 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:38 Onegu wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote

Lynching replacements isn't good the day they get replaced. We shouldn't be lynching Alakaslam today unless he does something very egregiously scummy.

For people voting FT... that's even worse. A coin-flip lynch is going to lead to zero discussion and waste the entirety of Day 1.

Let's find another candidate. Day 1's are made or broken in the last few hours anyway, so let's see who steps up and hunts some scum.



It shouldnt matter he is a replacement, sorry you replaced someone who is scummy tough luck. And why does a FT lynch waste the day? It gets rid of someone who has a good chance at being scum, and its not like everything was wasted the discusion that was made today is still valid.


I hate to bring up meta-gaming reasons, but usually when someone replaces in a "hopeless" situation (pun intended) such as this, they're usually demoralized town.

And how is there a good chance that FT is scum? All we know is that he's afk and is going to get modkilled/replaced.



I think based on his first post compared to what rayne had me look up in titanic, and I have seen him lurking in town games also and it was nothing like this, his second post does nothing after his first post says he will post his thoughts, but you are right looks like he will get modkilled at this point, if he comes back my vote will go right back on him though.

##UNVOTE


Plus he needed to die and there was a good chance he would flip scum. he did nothing after he came back except throw his vote on someone for no reason and ask a meta question, thats not pro town play.
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