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On August 31 2013 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh actually
in past 3 games 2/3 and WoS
Oh hm ok that's not what I thought it would be.
Regardless, I don't think your case on TK is very strong. His last quote in your last case on him (the one about him trying to "trap" you or something) is kinda wonky, but nothing 100% damning.
I'm interested to see how he continues playing in the coming days, but in the mean-time, he's reasonably active, and while there are some inconsistencies in his filter, they aren't outside the norm for a townie. Not a good lynch for today me thinks
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On August 31 2013 04:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
changing my mind is a scumtell since when Hapa?
It's a mix of two things. The first is that you changed your mind to exactly sheep thread sentiment... which is... odd for you. Having seen you fight against thread sentiment to push your own ideas tooth and nail in my previous town games with you, this version of Oats looks downright passive.
Furthermore, I can usually get that paranoid townie feeling from you very early on. You're generally much more all-over-the-place than this.
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On August 31 2013 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No hapa, please do not be try to "safe lynch" like you are now.
There's nothing "safe lynch" about it. I'm not lynching a null-read over a scum-read.
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On August 31 2013 04:26 FirmTofu wrote:
##vote:Tutankoopa
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On August 31 2013 04:27 FirmTofu wrote:
hold yo horsis, hapa. I will explain. I'm still catchin up.
What the jack have you been doing all game?
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On August 31 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 04:23 Hapahauli wrote:On August 31 2013 04:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
changing my mind is a scumtell since when Hapa? It's a mix of two things. The first is that you changed your mind to exactly sheep thread sentiment... which is... odd for you. Having seen you fight against thread sentiment to push your own ideas tooth and nail in my previous town games with you, this version of Oats looks downright passive. Furthermore, I can usually get that paranoid townie feeling from you very early on. You're generally much more all-over-the-place than this. Otas is town. He does not attack you if he was scum. He can't because you murder him. FFS. marv totally misrepresents Oats' meta. Oats, can you clarify this? Take a look what me and marv talked about you. Comment on it please.
Marv is absolutely terrible at reading Oats fwiw. I'd expect him not to have a good grasp of Oats' meta.
As far as Oats attacking me... where has he attacked me? I've seen him rage-tunnel me for days when I was a clear town-leader. The stuff he's done this game is a joke in comparison.
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On August 31 2013 04:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quick question for those who have played with Sciberbia. Does he always play very deliberate and calculated even when he is town? I am unfamiliar with his meta.
Pretty normal for scum and town Sciberia.
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The thing with this Rayn, is that I don't understand the mafia-motive behind this inconsistency/lie/whatever.
Yes it is an inconsistency. Yes his reply is a bit wonky. But is it completely out of the realm for a townie to do? What is "scum TK" trying to acccomplish here?
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On August 31 2013 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 04:50 Hapahauli wrote:
The thing with this Rayn, is that I don't understand the mafia-motive behind this inconsistency/lie/whatever.
Yes it is an inconsistency. Yes his reply is a bit wonky. But is it completely out of the realm for a townie to do? What is "scum TK" trying to acccomplish here? The thing is he is not making any sense. His thought process does not exist because it's a lie. Scum get away with this bullshit because town does not reread. It.. does.. not.. make... sense1!!!!
How sure are you that it's a lie as opposed to a mistake?
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On August 31 2013 04:57 FirmTofu wrote:
I can't believe it... Is Yamato seriously scum again?
Please attempt to justify your reads at some point today.
Thanks.
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On August 31 2013 04:58 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 04:57 FirmTofu wrote:
I can't believe it... Is Yamato seriously scum again? He's voting all the easy inactives like he did in Persona and is posting one-liners with no substance. This is hilarious.
What do you make of the shitfest between myself, marv, and Yamato starting roughly at page 29?
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On August 31 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 05:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
I didn't get your "ironclad" case last game rayn and I promise I re-read this one for you and still don't get it this game.
You are fortunate that I have last game to rely on or else I'd be working on your lynch I think.
@Tofu: yamato has a huge spat with marv/hapa for a bit this game. Enough to try and look townie, but not enough to really convince me. Its way more than last game though. I had questions at the start tho. Man, i am not stupid. read the case and pages 8-10 of the game, and think about what Tutankoopa says and how does he act. Ask yourself; Does what he says to me make sense compared to how he acts? Townies do not forget their intentions behind actions, mafia does (or does not have them).Think about it.
That bolded statement is simply not true. Townies are human - they forget all the time. Especially when put under pressure, it can be hard for people to find the motivation or the presence of mind to keep a story 100% straight. Every time I read that exchange you harp on about in your case, that's what I think. TK just seems annoyed at dealing with you as opposed to him making some calculated lie.
Maybe TK is scum, but what you have isn't a strong case, and isn't really a case at all.
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Oh my god you are going inception-level depth in to this.
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@ Oats, TK, and FT
You guys around? Where'd you all run off to?
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On August 31 2013 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what Hapa, what is the exchabnge you are talking about?
The TK/Hopeless exchange in your last case.
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On August 31 2013 05:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well as far as I'm concerned all of a sudden we have too many reasonable lynches lol (aka our votes are spread already :/).
Syl/FT/Alakaslam are all people I'd lynch plus we have a fair portion tunnelled on koopa.
Since not having my vote on anybody makes it a bit harder for consolidation, I'm going to
##Vote: Alakaslam
however I'm currently quite willing to be convinced on any of those 3.
We don't need to consolidate yet. I suspect we'll have a solid bloc of voters come deadline.
Although Alakaslam peacing out and not doing anything right now is bothersome.
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I think I"m down to Syl/Oats (and maybe FT) right now.
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On August 31 2013 05:32 marvellosity wrote:
Just to emphasise, I'm curious why Hapa wants to give alakaslam a pass given his posting since he got in the game; I don't find this suspicious from hapa, just the wrong attitude.
On August 31 2013 03:40 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 03:38 Onegu wrote:On August 31 2013 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote
Lynching replacements isn't good the day they get replaced. We shouldn't be lynching Alakaslam today unless he does something very egregiously scummy.
For people voting FT... that's even worse. A coin-flip lynch is going to lead to zero discussion and waste the entirety of Day 1.
Let's find another candidate. Day 1's are made or broken in the last few hours anyway, so let's see who steps up and hunts some scum. It shouldnt matter he is a replacement, sorry you replaced someone who is scummy tough luck. And why does a FT lynch waste the day? It gets rid of someone who has a good chance at being scum, and its not like everything was wasted the discusion that was made today is still valid. I hate to bring up meta-gaming reasons, but usually when someone replaces in a "hopeless" situation (pun intended) such as this, they're usually demoralized town. ...
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If I hear another thing about TK, my mind is going to melt.
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On August 31 2013 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
that's not even meta-gaming. do you have anything to support that hunch other than gut? Given 75% of replacements will be town anyway? Would a host even let a townie replace out for being 'demoralised'? I don't think so, do you?
I'm not saying those are the reasons that Hopeless gave. I'm more suggesting that a scum would be more likely to stick it out (regardless of what RL things are happening), where as a town would be more demoralized and such suspicion would be the tipping point for a replacement.
At this point, I'm more waiting on what slam has to say.
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