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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Vote Count Sn0_Man (0) raynpelikoneet (0) tutankoopa (2) Sciberbia (0) marvellosity (0) debears (0) Sylencia (1) debears yamato (0) Hopeless1der (3) sciberbia Hapahauli Oatsmaster FirmTofu (1) Onegu not voting (6) Sylencia FirmTofu sn0_Man tutankoopa marvellosity yamato77 Hopeless1der is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote: hopeless is pushing bad case. hopeless is trying to 'look' town Hopeless is scum. Hopeless as town is like not so tryhard and is like kinda floaty? Like he is never the main dude pushing someone.. somewhat accurate, I suppose but still, is this the BEST we've got? Hopeless is a player I definitely consider lynchbait. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote: So if I can prove that Tutan is town, is hopeless still town rayn? Yes. I don't see how my read on Tutan has anything to do with my read on Hopeless. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Three of us have made consolidated posts on hopeless (hapa, scib, me) so if you've missed them / not read them, you're already being a liability. Please stahp. Open our filters and ctrl-f hopeless for god's sakes. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:43 yamato77 wrote: I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep. give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it Between FT/Hopeless/Onegu which would you vote for? I think you mentioned FT being decent, but is it better than the other 2? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes. I don't see how my read on Tutan has anything to do with my read on Hopeless. Im assuming that since you have a scumread on Tutan and hopeless is the only that shares your views which means hes probably town right??? ??? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Or else how in the world do you think hopeless has like no chance of flipping town man. | ||
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote: 1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play? 2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1? Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain? Rayn, this is a perfect example of how being spammy can be bad, even if you're asking OK questions. You really shouldn't expect people to give you every single reasoning behind their every line of questioning. When I asked those questions I had specific goals in mind, and it is counterproductive for you to ask me to talk about things that I'd rather the mafia team not hear. Even when the theory I'm working with doesn't pan out, I'm still going to want to keep my motives under warp a while longer. As soon as someone fully explains a question, that question and similar strategies lose their scumhunting potential for the rest of the game. You couldn't even wait for Hopeless to respond before you interrupted and started asking questions. However, we're long past that point in the game so I'll give you a full explanation. Much of H's play was him being skeptical of the rayn voter(s). He says that rayn is being too stupid to be mafia. The full picture is that everything he posts and all of his accusations are based off of his page 2 Rayn town read. By asking those questions I was basically fishing for more evidence that Hopeless knew rayn's alignment. If Hopeless did not understand the "policy", why is it wrong for him to call my play stupid? Stupidity is a common target of policy lynchers. Hopeless doesn't have to agree with the policy, but surely if he think's you're being stupid he would be able to understand why people might want to policy lynch you.... or at least have a reasonable idea why. On August 30 2013 22:33 marvellosity wrote: Not really. Got a casual read on Sn0 lying around? Apologies if I missed you talking about him previously Way back in the game I saw him say something like "Nvm, I lied." I thought it was townie and haven't paid attention to him since then. No, it's not the best town-tell.... but it is what it is. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Im assuming that since you have a scumread on Tutan and hopeless is the only that shares your views which means hes probably town right??? ??? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Or else how in the world do you think hopeless has like no chance of flipping town man. I guess you mean scum on the bolded? My read on Hopeless is based on the fact that i do not see any motive for him to do what he has done this game if he was mafia. That added to the fact that every single person in this game other than me (barring FT who has not posted, and myabe Onegu, who i think is town) wants to lynch him. It makes no sense there is no resistance to his lynch other than himself and me. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You still got some scumhunting to do before i am willing to take my vote off you. What do you think about Hopeless that i just said in my last post? Also, could you expand this read of yours: If you followed my comprehensive post then you'd know that I have a slight town, sorta nullish read on Sylencia. I see a lurker... but I don't see mafia. He didn't particularly shine in our recent conversation but there was nothing that made me want to abandon my read. I really don't understand what makes you think he is town? | ||
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:43 yamato77 wrote: I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep. give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it Hopeless quotes "Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats" "Your initial vote was not entirely damning." "3) I'd actually chalk that up to early trolling more than anything else." --- I think he's referring to my first vote. "My reasons for voting TK do not (nor have they ever) hinged upon the fact that he sheeped yamato's "policy" vote." I have no idea when or why he thought I was scum during any of that earlier stuff. At times it looks like he knows the early vote was nothing substantial, at other times he is insistent that I was pushing for a lynch. For further reading, I recently made a post about how all of his actions from page 2 onward are built on the assumption that rayn is town. That doesn't ring any alarms? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:09 Tutankoopa wrote: Can anyone tell me how readable the replacement is? his nickname is alakaspam yeah | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Isnt the scum motivation mislynching Tuken and appearing town by pushing something? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:04 Tutankoopa wrote: Hopeless quotes "Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats" "Your initial vote was not entirely damning." "3) I'd actually chalk that up to early trolling more than anything else." --- I think he's referring to my first vote. "My reasons for voting TK do not (nor have they ever) hinged upon the fact that he sheeped yamato's "policy" vote." I have no idea when or why he thought I was scum during any of that earlier stuff. At times it looks like he knows the early vote was nothing substantial, at other times he is insistent that I was pushing for a lynch. For further reading, I recently made a post about how all of his actions from page 2 onward are built on the assumption that rayn is town. That doesn't ring any alarms? Why would mafia!Hopeless not back off from the accusation (regarding your policy-vote) in the (3) point and/or in the point you bolded? Many people pointed out how dumb his accusation regarding your policy-vote was, many people pointed out he is becoming a suspect because of that, don't you think his scummates would have not told him to cut that off and say "yeah i can see that now, i was wrong"? I would have definitely done so if my scumbuddy did something that stupid. I think your second quote is taken out of context because Hopeless also gave other reasons for you to be mafia (your reads post which really was full of nothing). I also think Hopeless has clearly expressed he has a townread on me and reasons for it, why is this more suspicious than let's say sciberbia having a 95% town-read on me? | ||
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