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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#1638
Ebwop

##VOTE:ALAKASLAM
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#1640
rayn is on hapa also
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September 02 2013 19:07 GMT
#1644
On September 03 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think we should lynch Hapa, seriously. yamato is good at this shit and i am like 99,999999992% sure he is town.



Really? Hopeless was really scummy and slam hasnt done much to change my mind... As I said earlier I cant really get a good read on hapa or marv.
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Onegu
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September 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#1645
I do agree yamato is most likely town though.
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September 02 2013 19:23 GMT
#1647
Its almost 230 am I domt have time to read that game and Im not going to lynch a null read based off of yamato.
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United States9699 Posts
September 02 2013 19:45 GMT
#1650
On September 03 2013 04:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
This is why you lynch alak Onegu. Ez.



Yeah Im staying on slam, wont be up for deadline.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2013 08:47 GMT
#1797
So how did that happen? Can we kill slam plz or modkill him. I am catching up now but when I checked I wasnt expecting to see oats dead...

@sn0 can you respond to my question?

@Alakaslam what did those +1 +5 -1 mean and how did you arrive at those numbers, also what are your thoughts of syl? Hapa?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2013 10:05 GMT
#1800
Going in order of posts to expand on my sn0 question.

First

On August 30 2013 23:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
TBH I'm not sure who is a better vote than Alakaslam right now anyway. I'm willing to lynch oats but I feel like that its more intelligent to leave him around a bit longer, get more info out of him.

Sylencia is another option, although apart from his very early stuff that has been done to bits I don't see what else would incriminate him.

I'm not sure who else is a real candidate. Onegu is playing as I expect him to, which might be unfortunate but really doesn't make me want to lynch him. None of Marv/Hapa/Yam are remotely lynchable at this point. Sciberbia picked it up a ton.

Actually reading Tofu makes me plenty happy to lynch him, although at the same time I really question a scummer posting that lol.

I don't think koopa is a real lynch. If nothing else he's been reasonable to rayn, quite above and beyond the call. Which leaves bears but I once again feel that he deserves at least another day.

TL;DR: I still wanna lynch Alakaslam.

PS: maybe it wasn't clear, but I read most of yesterday and essentially never bothered posting once hapa got going because he was saying pretty much everything I thought about the thread. Only substantially more eloquently.



Wants to lynch Alakaslam as he is the best lynch option, is ok with a FT lynch.

On August 30 2013 23:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:50 yamato77 wrote:
##Vote: FirmTofu

Heads or Tails?

I'm actually getting more interested in taking this approach, mostly to be fair to alakaslam since replacing in as the prime lynch candidate with 8 hours to lynch is horrendously unfair.


Wants to give slam a chance and move onto FT

On August 31 2013 00:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Tofu's filter is 2 posts. Not so bad.


Not sure but I think this is him backing off of FT because his next post is.

On August 31 2013 00:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Changed my mind. After a read-through of Syl's filter I detect implied guilt, uselessness and a solid amount of completely unecessary apologetics (okay thats a fancy way of saying implied guilt).

I could lynch that guy too if it comes to that.

Current lynchee's I'd vote for:

Alakaslam
Sylencia




On August 31 2013 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Erm, and probably tofu. I disagree that full lurkers are *never* scum, although I admit its probably not useful enough to lynch him right now. Still, I could lynch him right now.


These posts go together.
Not a complete back off of FT but he first says Slam and Syl are the main lynches he would choose. Then FT if he had to.

On August 31 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Continuing what hapa says, this coin flips at a rate of around 75% town simply due to probability.

Yes he needs to not play like this but lynching him isn't really the best choice day 1. I'd need a lot of shining beacons of towniness everywhere else to lynch tofu right now, although if he shows up and doesn't improve that could change.


But now a almost complete back off of FT.

On August 31 2013 05:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well as far as I'm concerned all of a sudden we have too many reasonable lynches lol (aka our votes are spread already :/).

Syl/FT/Alakaslam are all people I'd lynch plus we have a fair portion tunnelled on koopa.

Since not having my vote on anybody makes it a bit harder for consolidation, I'm going to
##Vote: Alakaslam
however I'm currently quite willing to be convinced on any of those 3.


Finally puts his vote down on slam, but back to being ok with a FT lynch.

On August 31 2013 05:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
PS Sciberbia or debears wanted to know why oats isn't on my list (forget who).

Mostly its because I feel like if we give oats a bit more rope he could hang himself with it. I feel like I'll get a reasonable read on him given time whereas I'm not convinced my read on say FirmTofu is gonna advance so well and I find tofu just as scummy. Why lynch somebody who will eventually become transparent?


Now oats is scummy, but earlier he said the reason oats was scummy was 100% meta. Also here he talks about FT is just as scummy.

On August 31 2013 07:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright I can do the tofu lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: FirmTofu

I don't think that slam deserves to live but it makes more sense to consolidate etc etc. Hilarity has its upsides as well.



Off of slam and right onto FT. While of course earlier it was unfair to lynch slam, but now he doesnt deserve to live.

On September 02 2013 08:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmm weekends suck.

I've read most everything, and I feel like for now Oats is the person I'm interested in most. He just doesn't feel like the town-presence oats I expect. If he's town I should *know* it by now. I'm not even getting close to a town vibe from him and his excuses are shit like "you guys only think i'm scum because I don't have a 10 page filter" which is a terrible excuse.

Rayn is wildly full of shit but I've known that since like minutes into D1. It feels anti-town but it did last game too and he flipped town. I still kinda wanna kill him though.

I still feel like Onegu is a poor lynch *but* its possible that because he feels like he is stepping up his game what that really means is he is getting some pushes from the scumqt or whatever. He bears watching but I'm not too interested in his lynch yet.

Most everybody else has a read ranging from null to town so I don't feel the need to discuss them.

FWIW I doubt there is an SK in this setup simply because the points mechanic would be even harder to balance with an SK thrown in.


Now oats is his main scum read. Is willing to kill rayn and now I need to be looked at because I am upping my game?! But no mention of Alakaslam who deserved to die.

On September 02 2013 08:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh yeah forgot Alakaslam he looks awful but not inherently scummy. I'd be interested in lynching him if osmebody could come up with a case that made him look scummy not retarded. Really I think I need to go over how the lynch went down yesterday because I'm pretty sure there was a scum candidate in there somehwere.


Realizes he forgot alakaslam, but now he needs convinced alakaslam is scum not just retarted.


On September 03 2013 06:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmm apologies all for nonexistant activity. Weekends and all that.

Lets lynch oats. Hapa seems like a terrible lynch. Slam is an acceptable substitute but I don't feel like we are learning as much if we lynch him. He feels coinflippy whereas Oats feels scummy.

##Vote: Oatsmaster



Votes oats but says slam is a acceptable subsitute but we get more info from a oats lynch?!? And then we dont hear from him again.


TLDR; sn0 is insanely wishy washy on alakaslam going from he should die to he shouldnt die its unfair to he deserves to die again to Ill only vote for him if someone convinces me he is scum. It really looks like some light bussing then defense if things get to hot.

Alakaslam/sn0 scum team.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2013 10:08 GMT
#1802
On September 03 2013 18:55 yamato77 wrote:
We probably lose at daypost if a townie dies, but whatever. I'll give out my non-Hapa reads.

Sn0 looks like mafia. 4 page filter for day 1, and managed to find himself on both town wagons. Since then, he's done absolutely nothing except decide that Oats was a better lynch than Slam out of nowhere.

If I'm right about Sn0, Slam is also probably mafia. Has done nothing all game and is even less useful than he is in Aperture at any given time. Hopeless was also the main lynch target D1, and him replacing out seems more likely if he is mafia than if he is town in that situation.

TK being thrawn means he's almost certainly not scum, but I still like my 3P read on him. He gives just enough of a fuck that I'm sure this isn't scum thrawn, but not enough for me to want to give him a town read. I feel like he's posted more out of a survival instinct than anything.

Also, still rather convinced of Hapa. I don't see scib/debears/marv/rayn/syl as mafia. Onegu mighty be mafia who is bussing Slam for THE CREDZ but I like my conspiracy theories better.

Anyway, GG scum, you played well.



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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2013 10:14 GMT
#1804
Took me like a half hour to make that post on a tablet and only to be ninja'd by yamato
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2013 14:51 GMT
#1824
On September 03 2013 23:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hi guys. Its not the weekend anymore so I'm once again around.

Since onegu felt the need to quote my whole filter... my response is essentially: I can't decide on slam (still cant). I was happy with both lynches I voted for at the time I voted for them. They didn't work out and I'm not so happy about it but what do?

If you wish, I can also quote every post I made and put 1-liners in-between. Obviously instead of being sarcastic and confirmation biased my 1-liners would make me look nice.

PS how come getting written off by all of town day 1 then soundly ignored every time I posted (which admittedly fell off a lot) makes me like 4 people's prime scum suspect? o.o

The only other thing I can say is my activity will pick up. Too bad its night phase and we may not get another day.



No the problem is you change your reads and who needs to die without giving reasons for doing so. And I needed to post most of your filter to show your wishy washy stances on lynches and how often you changed them. Also you almost completely drop your scum read on syl with little reason, and try to throw some dirt on me for picking up my game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2013 16:25 GMT
#1831
On September 04 2013 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 17:47 Onegu wrote:
So how did that happen? Can we kill slam plz or modkill him. I am catching up now but when I checked I wasnt expecting to see oats dead...

@sn0 can you respond to my question?

@Alakaslam what did those +1 +5 -1 mean and how did you arrive at those numbers, also what are your thoughts of syl? Hapa?

Each addition is two read and each subtraction is scum read. If you disagree, too bad I am still telling it how I see it.

Oh. And as Dandel has not yet said "WTH GTFO", I will continue as if I had voted oats.

Even though he was a null read he was only one I have read.


Sn0 having a hard time gauging town opinion of me or genuinely having difficulty reading for himself on me?

Oh. And if we are scum team? Why would he not bus me lololol. Dat ez towncred.


Townreads: Hapahauli and Debears

Null to town: Marv

Null null: Raynepelikoneet Thrawn Yamato Russia

Null to scum: ONEGU (geez phone when did this start) sn0man

Scum: TBD

Anyone I forgot is not standing out at all and is therefore null to scum



He did he had his vote on you at one point but when he saw you didnt have to die he changed his vote, also this is a game where scum can win with points so bussing is less valuable as you would lose points.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#1975
Sorry its almost 4am and I had a really busy day, but yamato what is your thought process in analyzeing votes when the three main wagons have all flipped town? I be back tomorrow and reread the thread. But right now my scumteam is sn0, syl and not sure on the third.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 11:40 GMT
#2078
So I am here! Any question I am here for. So my case on sn0 isnt as strong since the alakaslam flip, but it still looks like he is distanceing himself from town mislynches. He also has barely scumhunted at all. I still think syl is scum also he attacked me for something he himself was doing and just said he agreed with other peoples cases without adding anything of substance to them, he basicly just +1 cases on people. Marv I am not sure about at this point as he hasnt done much of anything except get in pissing contests, i expect more from him as scum or town doesnt make much sense. Rayn is town he hasnt done anything to change that read from me. Yamato still feels town but I really dont like he was trying to figure out the game from votes that were only on town wagons, doesnt add up. Thrawn seems like he is actually trying to figure out the game at this point while no one else is doing much will move him to slightly town at this point. Hapa is basicly confirmed town at this point.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 11:55 GMT
#2083
On September 05 2013 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 20:40 Onegu wrote:
So I am here! Any question I am here for.


It's time to start talking about who we're gonna lynch.



I am ok with a lynch on syl or sn0 now, I guess marv to but when I look at his filter I dont see anything that screams he is scum. I believe we are in mylo btw.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 12:01 GMT
#2084
On September 05 2013 20:50 yamato77 wrote:
Also wouldn't mind an Onegu lynch

He maf, too



And that is because? Please dont just say how I voted either. And on your earlier post if you want to call the first reason I voted for FT bad that is fine, but when you say the unvote and the second vote are bullshit that is just plain wrong, the unvote was because he was going to get modkilled like hapa said and the second vote was because he came back to the thread droppee his vote on someone and did zero analysis and wasnt going to get modkillee, I even said if he came back to not get modkilled my vote was going right back on him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 14:47 GMT
#2107
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 15:19 GMT
#2117
Yeah scumteam is sn0, syl, and mostlikely marv. If syl claim is real just make sure some people are on for deadline and nothing crazy happens. I will be asleep and my vote will stay on syl. There is no reason for sn0 to attack my vote there as it is legit and so is my reasoning. Also I am sure we can figure out a way to make enough votes so that marv is the second most without the possibility of switching. like make 4 votes on syl first then 4 votes on marv, which would make it impossible to change the wagon off of them. Stop attacking me for dumb non existant reasons.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 15:32 GMT
#2129
On September 06 2013 00:29 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA


Who would be your secondary lynch choice? you sound rushed here LOL



Sn0, I have already said this.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 16:00 GMT
#2149
On September 06 2013 00:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Re reading, maybe I'm seeing what I want to see in onegu as opposed to what is there, but I seriously see his post as a huge "ZOMG FREE WIN" post. If you consider what he is saying, it makes so much sense for that to come from maf.



Sigh first off I believe syl is mafia and marv has a decent chance to flip mafia also. Wnd I thin we can figure out a way to make sure the wagons dont change. All you would have to do is watch Marv as it would be to save him have some townies up spaming f5 at the deadline ready to move off of syl to marv. As it would have to be 3 on syl 3 on another so if two townies on syl are ready to move to marv we wouldnt have any problems.
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