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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 09:50 GMT
#225
I'm done talking to you for ~24 hours, Oats
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 09:56 GMT
#228
I think it's natural that people can't stay in the thread constantly.

Also "I like this guy" != "this guy is totally town". Reading comprehension fail right there.

I won't be a dick if you learn to read properly, deal?

I don't see the scum motivation in fucking around dumbly on a policy lynch. Especially coming from Tutenshitzen. Could maybe a super weak mafia player do that? Possibly, but Tuten doesn't sound like a dumbass to me so far, so I don't think he'd do so as mafia. That seems to be one of the primary reasons for voting him and it's not a very good one at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:04 GMT
#230
you asking me who's scum always works right?

as always, i'll tell you when i have a decent idea.

Gonna leave the thread now because there's too many people I have no idea about, and arguing with you is neither good for my soul nor good for the thread
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:14 GMT
#235
Hapa, for you I'm not going to respond to Oats' shitpost right there.

Hapa, you don't buy debears being drunk? Or you do buy it but you don't think it excuses what he wrote? Strong enough for a vote even?

Also

On August 29 2013 19:09 Hapahauli wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 13:26 debears wrote:
Also, a 95% town read is full retard early d1 is full retard as town. As scum, its dumb but it has motivations (avoid early conflict, make friend of someone who apparently is consider3d bad town).

Vote scribs guise


So according to this, debears doesn't care whether Scib is dumb town or scum. He mentions both, then uses it as a justification to vote.

That's pretty darrrrrn scummy.



I read this as "it's retarded as both alignments, but has motivations for one alignment, ergo he's that alignment"

no?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:21 GMT
#238
Really, I'm not so interested in the town/scum dumb motivation thing, as I am in the completely unexplained metaread.

I'm itching to hear that one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:29 GMT
#242
On August 29 2013 19:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Generally scum are more careful with their posting because they dont want to stand out too much.
Like they would think more about the appearance of their posting.


Hapa wanna lynch marv?


And yet you're voting Tutankhamen for making a spectacle of himself with the policy stuff?

HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE OATS?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:33 GMT
#245
On August 29 2013 19:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 19:29 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 19:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Generally scum are more careful with their posting because they dont want to stand out too much.
Like they would think more about the appearance of their posting.


Hapa wanna lynch marv?


And yet you're voting Tutankhamen for making a spectacle of himself with the policy stuff?

HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE OATS?

Only me and Hopeless thought it was bad initially......
Like why as town, vote for a dude and the question the lynch for that dude in the same post. Makes no sense to me.


So, let's read this:

On August 29 2013 19:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Generally scum are more careful with their posting because they dont want to stand out too much.
Like they would think more about the appearance of their posting.


So scum are careful and think about what they post. Yet he "vote(s) for a dude and the question the lynch for that dude in the same post." How is this careful and thinking about appearances?

The two don't match Oats. What's going on?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#248
Tutan seems nothing like Crazo at all. He has much more to him. That's a terrible comparison.

I'm pretty suspicious of you for defending debears with one argument, and damning Tuten with the same argument. Still makes no sense.

What did you expect to happen with a policy vote like that? For him to stick to it? Would that have been 'townie'? Your read smells like ass.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:46 GMT
#250
Hapa thinking similarly to me, me gusta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 10:59 GMT
#253
Remind me to talk about the 2nd half of your post there, rayn, once Tutan has answered for himself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:14 GMT
#259
That didn't actually answer rayn's question, Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:18 GMT
#262
He asked you whether the policy vote stuff was scummy or not, and you just summarised his actions around it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:22 GMT
#265
On August 29 2013 20:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
It didnt read to me as a joke AT all and he never mentions that its a joke.

I said that mafia generally do not draw attention to themselves. Tuken was not proposing a policy lynch, he was just following yamato. So thats not too attention drawing. Also if I didnt push him and all that, we would not be talking about him at all. So he didnt draw attention to himself.


On August 29 2013 19:31 Oatsmaster wrote:

Only me and Hopeless thought it was bad initially......
Like why as town, vote for a dude and the question the lynch for that dude in the same post. Makes no sense to me.


These things together still don't make sense to me. Don't think we're getting any further with it right now though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:42 GMT
#274
On August 29 2013 20:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
man sciberbia is being super formal and stuff, like all of his shit reads really formally. Not sure if scum or town meta. Does anyone know?


Reading is awesome

On August 29 2013 18:31 marvellosity wrote:

scibby's posts (especially at first) look weird and constructed as fuck to me but then again I thought the same in Ego and he was town, I guess I'll wait and see if he stays involved

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:47 GMT
#276
On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm?


I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think.

TBD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:48 GMT
#278
yamato seems ok. Dumb is usually ok from yamato
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:51 GMT
#280
On August 29 2013 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm?


I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think.

TBD

I am pretty sure Oats is town. He is clearly not paying attention closely, that's why he forgets stuff. Given the players in this game (unless like you and Hapa are scum with him) i would expect him to be far more calreful with what he posts if he was mafia. Also him attacking you and Hapa (the strongest players) and not letting go of his arguments when "proven wrong" (or rather when pointed out the holes in his logic) is a strong towntell imo.


I used to think this, but some game a while ago proved that wrong. Can't remember which though :/

Maybe you have a better metaread on him than I do, the way I usually try to tell is how involved he manages to stay. Pretty sure he can consistently push bad ideas as mafia too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:55 GMT
#282
I misread yamato at the start of Sicilian and I'm not doing that shit again

If his thread-relevance to the thread drops off, I'm gonna be all over him like a rash.

You have a point with how he's acted with regards to you, I don't think it's particularly alignment indicative though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:56 GMT
#283
"thread-relevance to the thread"

awesome.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2013 11:58 GMT
#285
On August 29 2013 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 20:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 29 2013 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm?


I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think.

TBD

I am pretty sure Oats is town. He is clearly not paying attention closely, that's why he forgets stuff. Given the players in this game (unless like you and Hapa are scum with him) i would expect him to be far more calreful with what he posts if he was mafia. Also him attacking you and Hapa (the strongest players) and not letting go of his arguments when "proven wrong" (or rather when pointed out the holes in his logic) is a strong towntell imo.


I used to think this, but some game a while ago proved that wrong. Can't remember which though :/

Maybe you have a better metaread on him than I do, the way I usually try to tell is how involved he manages to stay. Pretty sure he can consistently push bad ideas as mafia too.

Yeah i am not sure about Oats. I mean not convinced to say "Oats is town".
There is a difference of him pushing targets as mafia or as town. I am pretty sure i can notice which this is when the game goes on. Anyways i think he is likely to be town atm.

I assume you think Hapa is town? How easy is it for you to tell if he is town or not?


I don't know. My tried and tested method of reading Hapa is "does his posting give me the heebie jeebies". He's not posted enough for me to have placed him on the heebie-jeebie-ometer yet. I like to think I'd be reasonably confident on his alignment by the end of Day 1, certainly.
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