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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 08 2013 22:36 GMT
#921
but yeh that modkill when we were told he'd probably get replaced completely made me switch to koshi, would have gne with lone or infii otherwise but even if it was infii we still would have lost i guess
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 08 2013 22:37 GMT
#922
I can only apologize to town for the mistake. Sorry, you could have turned it around if I had not derped I hope this game did not ruin your experience of mafia and you will sign up for another game.

Hosting derps like mine are terribly rare and usually don't happen so no worries on that side >_>

I will be updating the endgame post tomorrow and also share some thoughts I had as host of the game.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 22:37 GMT
#923
On September 09 2013 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
If you vote bereft you are also just dumb, he's not voting LV because LV is a fucking modkill as far as we know and if not he's getting replaced. I'm actually more than tempted to vote for a koshi lynch at this point in time because the stuff he is saying is beyond scummy.

This is the fucking way you tell a player that just entered the game you have a greencheck on bereft?

lololol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 22:38 GMT
#924
On September 09 2013 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh that modkill when we were told he'd probably get replaced completely made me switch to koshi, would have gne with lone or infii otherwise but even if it was infii we still would have lost i guess

No need to lie. You went for me because you had a greencheck on bereft.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 08 2013 22:39 GMT
#925
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 09 2013 07:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
If you vote bereft you are also just dumb, he's not voting LV because LV is a fucking modkill as far as we know and if not he's getting replaced. I'm actually more than tempted to vote for a koshi lynch at this point in time because the stuff he is saying is beyond scummy.

This is the fucking way you tell a player that just entered the game you have a greencheck on bereft?

lololol


On September 09 2013 06:47 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 09 2013 03:54 Koshi wrote:
I will be quickly playing a DotA after that:

Read the thread.

Try to find a townread.

Sheep him.

Lynch scum.

ezpz.



Hasn't found a 'townread' to follow and so has started a tunnel vote train on bereft who is most definitely not lynch worthy, shows that he has only read like what 2 pages? to make a case on him.
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk a bit guys?

How do you feel about his bereft guy?

He had 1 read on Day 1 but he voted his read only after 3 other guys. Dnu. I don't like it.

Will this Lord Velocity guy get modkilled?


No, there are far more lynch worthy targets, especially on the ray/myrzeth bandwagons. If you are ignoring that I am heavily inclined to think you are scum since your entrance in last game was:

"omg this is so easy why u vote him just lynch people on wagon" and then this response is a complete 180 flip, so yeh, hello scum!

The wagons with 90% of the players on it? Yeah I guess there will be scum on it...


There are 5 people on the chairman bandwagon, he doesn't think myrz is scum because of his low post count, thinks killer and umasi and bereft are mafia here:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:
bereft, Umasi, killerdog scumteam.


gg I win.
but doesn't vote anyone on the anti-town killing wagon, instead votes bereft.

asks about lord velocity even though he knows he might be a modkill/replace:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:05 Koshi wrote:
HolyFlare, what about a Lord Velocity lynch?


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk a bit guys?

How do you feel about his bereft guy?

He had 1 read on Day 1 but he voted his read only after 3 other guys. Dnu. I don't like it.

Will this Lord Velocity guy get modkilled?



Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:31 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:28 infii wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:27 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:20 infii wrote:
Koshi what do you think about LoneMeow?

Ok for now.

What do you think about the guy that is voting for a guy that claimed RB?


You can read up my thoughts about Umasi in my analysis. Nothing has changed.

Cool. I think you are pretty town.

Or a scummer that has a death wish. Claiming RB.


Defend infii here even calling him town (has he even read this game?) if he read up to the bereft part on LV he's only read the first few pages and infii sure as shit wasn't town there.

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:38 Koshi wrote:
So let's get a bereft wagon going?

This guy thinks LV is 100% scum. His best buddy Blurry thought LV was 100% scum. After the night he made this post saying that LV is 100% scum.
On September 07 2013 08:27 Bereft wrote:
NOOOO NOT MY BUDDY BLURRY. blurry I will avenge you.

@HolyFlare FINALLY someone else sees it.

posting from my phone right now, will be around to post if not tonight then definitely tomorrow.


Then he votes for an easy target in mYrz.

Also bereft never followed up on his killerdog read?


wants a bereft wagon, even after people said no.


here:


+ Show Spoiler +
On September 09 2013 05:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:47 infii wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:
bereft, Umasi, killerdog scumteam.


gg I win.


I'm not sold on Bereft. If you look it up, he announced myrz as his top lynch target before the NK here + Show Spoiler +
On September 06 2013 13:34 Bereft wrote:
there's probably only one. and there's also a small chance that somehow they all managed to place their vote elsewhere. so that's only about a a 20% chance of hitting scum... but out of the 5 who voted for chairman, i like myrzeth, killerdog and lonemeow in that order (for lynch candidates).

Yes, that's a perfect way for scum to keep their options open. Bereft clearly knew that he didn't give enough reasons to vote myrz so let's see what other reasons he can give to justify his vote:

Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 13:08 Bereft wrote:
##Vote: MyRZeth

reasons include:
a. he sux bawls
b. it's pretty clear - he's not going to change his mind about lurking anytime soon
c. i think there's definitely 1 scum in the bunch that voted for ray. the sudden piling of votes onto ray was weird. i'm wondering if the shift of votes had anything to do with myrzeth being mafia and his mafia buddies freaking out with him about to get lynched

in any case i would like to hear from killerdog why he switched his vote as well as from the town why another player may be a better candidate for lynch today.

tldr: He is a bad lurker and he was on Chairman Ray.

why bereft voted for myrz:
He is a bad lurker and he was on Chairman Ray.

why bereft didn't vote for LV on who(m) he made a million cases:
+ Show Spoiler +
nothing to see here

he's still pushing bereft on not voting velocity even though velocity said he can't play anymore (more non-reading)




all in all, defends infii and calls him town, infii being someone who is one of my biggest scum reads, doesn't mention lonemeow at all who is also on the ray bandwagon (why not??) and is trying to push votes on bereft, gonna vote him for sure

##Unvote
##Vote: Koshi



That combined with voting umasi because infii and lonemow (2 biggest scum reads) did was just ridiculous especially when everyone was voting those 2?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 08 2013 22:39 GMT
#926
On September 09 2013 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh that modkill when we were told he'd probably get replaced completely made me switch to koshi, would have gne with lone or infii otherwise but even if it was infii we still would have lost i guess

No need to lie. You went for me because you had a greencheck on bereft.


that raised suspicion and then you did ridiculous votes
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 08 2013 22:40 GMT
#927
On September 09 2013 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare is so unbelievable stupid. hilarious.

on the flip side, koshi scum mvp.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 22:40 GMT
#928
On September 09 2013 07:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 07:38 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh that modkill when we were told he'd probably get replaced completely made me switch to koshi, would have gne with lone or infii otherwise but even if it was infii we still would have lost i guess

No need to lie. You went for me because you had a greencheck on bereft.


that raised suspicion and then you did ridiculous votes

Which one?
bereft: who tunneled a blue read of mine?
Or Umasi on who I landed and was scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 22:41 GMT
#929
On September 09 2013 07:40 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare is so unbelievable stupid. hilarious.

on the flip side, koshi scum mvp.

Like always.
I had a good night of sleep.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
September 08 2013 22:41 GMT
#930
guys sorry for my mega fuck up with the last minute vote switch. i got home 5 mins before voting ended and didn't realize (a) koshi was replacing pharcyde and not LV (trololol) and (b) that myrzeth and LV were getting modkilled tonight. had i known i would've left my vote alone, which would have still given us a shot (and an epic comeback i'm sure). sorry
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 08 2013 22:41 GMT
#931
well, you read me as scum for the wrong reasons haha, same with infii.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 08 2013 22:42 GMT
#932
On September 09 2013 07:34 Bereft wrote:
no worries, shiaopi, they wouldve got me anyway. though i wish there'd been a reminder that people were getting modkilled. i'd totally forgotten about that.


I was basing all my logic off the fact that pharcyd3 got away with a warning after he failed to vote, rather then a mod kill. So it didn't even occur to me that myrzeth would get modkilled for failing to vote once.

Also I had very strong reads on umasi and heavenz, and was pretty sure lonemeow was the third, I just felt like if i said anything about it the chances of me dying that night were rather high.

I remember while i was writing one of my earliest posts

(this one i think)
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 05 2013 03:48 killerdog wrote:
ok here are my current reads/opinions on people.

...

HolyFlare
-Holyflare seems to be involved in everything, early on he was very much in control of the flow of debate, bringing up sleeping n1, then not being afraid of disagreeing with people. However once Blurry suggested sharing reads he pretty defensive/confrontational.

Regardless of his orientation, to me he feels like a rather charismatic player who doesn't want to just scrape by being passive and answering questions, but rather wants to be one fo the people in the driving seat, and that might be why he reacted to blurry taking the initiative like he did. There were three people who stood out to me as pressuring him on his refusal to share reads.
-Bereft, who seemed to be satisfied by holyflares response,
-Blurry, most of blurry's posts seem to be things holyflare disagreed with, or vice versa
-Umasi, who ended up going hard on holyflare.

To be honest I'm having a hard time getting any kind of read off of him. He's stated that his style is "asking off the cuff questions about posts" to catch people off guard. Something he's been consistent in doing. He also didn't seem to change his posting style, or go super defensive when umasi voted for him.


He's talking alot (most posts of anyone i think) and doing a good job asking questions but the way he reacted to being asked for reads was a bit dereailing and very uncooperative. He hasn't really given any evidence to prove himself town so far. He's talking a ton about the over all "metagame" of mafia, and a lot about mafia tactics in general but basically nothing relevant to this game itself. It takes more then asking other people questions to prove yourself a townie, and refusing to give any analysis on the other players at all, while still expecting people to answer all your questions is asking for a lot.

Still very much on the fence about him and I'm starting to regret interrupting Usami when i did.
...



I found myself about to write something like "Holyflare seems to feel that he's more important to the town then most other people, I'm getting either a mafia or a blue role read off him, but leaning strongly towards blue because of his activity/aggro" Then realised how stupid that was to post, and just noted it down in my notes.

Almost really fucked up lol
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 08 2013 22:43 GMT
#933
well, actually I can't say that. I don't know if you read me as scum for the wrong reason because you never really gave reasons, just said UMASI KILLERDOG BEREFT SCUMTEAM GGNORE
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
infii
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany153 Posts
September 08 2013 22:43 GMT
#934
Man I feel like dipshit after spending the whole day analysing my reads and still coudn't pull through...

Gonna check out that scum QT tomorrow, gona b gud!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 22:44 GMT
#935
On September 09 2013 07:41 Umasi wrote:
well, you read me as scum for the wrong reasons haha, same with infii.

please talk more shit.

fucking clueless.

I had you as scum only because our little interaction and your filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 08 2013 22:44 GMT
#936
lol we are so all over the place
and like
'wtfarewedoing'
and I WANT TO BE TOWN WITH INFII AND HOLYFLARE SO I CAN WORK WITH THEM DAMMIT
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 08 2013 22:45 GMT
#937
On September 09 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 07:41 Umasi wrote:
well, you read me as scum for the wrong reasons haha, same with infii.

please talk more shit.

fucking clueless.

I had you as scum only because our little interaction and your filter.


then stop insulting holyflares play.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 22:45:28
September 08 2013 22:45 GMT
#938
@killerdog:

pharcyd3 got away since he did post but not vote.
myRZeth had been sketchy in activity already and I warned him already in regards to that. So after failing to vote and post during the entire day, it seemed to me that he stopped playing and was just dead weight that needed to be modkilled
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
September 08 2013 22:45 GMT
#939
On September 09 2013 07:42 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 07:34 Bereft wrote:
no worries, shiaopi, they wouldve got me anyway. though i wish there'd been a reminder that people were getting modkilled. i'd totally forgotten about that.


I was basing all my logic off the fact that pharcyd3 got away with a warning after he failed to vote, rather then a mod kill. So it didn't even occur to me that myrzeth would get modkilled for failing to vote once.

Also I had very strong reads on umasi and heavenz, and was pretty sure lonemeow was the third, I just felt like if i said anything about it the chances of me dying that night were rather high.

I remember while i was writing one of my earliest posts

(this one i think)
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 05 2013 03:48 killerdog wrote:
ok here are my current reads/opinions on people.

...

HolyFlare
-Holyflare seems to be involved in everything, early on he was very much in control of the flow of debate, bringing up sleeping n1, then not being afraid of disagreeing with people. However once Blurry suggested sharing reads he pretty defensive/confrontational.

Regardless of his orientation, to me he feels like a rather charismatic player who doesn't want to just scrape by being passive and answering questions, but rather wants to be one fo the people in the driving seat, and that might be why he reacted to blurry taking the initiative like he did. There were three people who stood out to me as pressuring him on his refusal to share reads.
-Bereft, who seemed to be satisfied by holyflares response,
-Blurry, most of blurry's posts seem to be things holyflare disagreed with, or vice versa
-Umasi, who ended up going hard on holyflare.

To be honest I'm having a hard time getting any kind of read off of him. He's stated that his style is "asking off the cuff questions about posts" to catch people off guard. Something he's been consistent in doing. He also didn't seem to change his posting style, or go super defensive when umasi voted for him.


He's talking alot (most posts of anyone i think) and doing a good job asking questions but the way he reacted to being asked for reads was a bit dereailing and very uncooperative. He hasn't really given any evidence to prove himself town so far. He's talking a ton about the over all "metagame" of mafia, and a lot about mafia tactics in general but basically nothing relevant to this game itself. It takes more then asking other people questions to prove yourself a townie, and refusing to give any analysis on the other players at all, while still expecting people to answer all your questions is asking for a lot.

Still very much on the fence about him and I'm starting to regret interrupting Usami when i did.
...



I found myself about to write something like "Holyflare seems to feel that he's more important to the town then most other people, I'm getting either a mafia or a blue role read off him, but leaning strongly towards blue because of his activity/aggro" Then realised how stupid that was to post, and just noted it down in my notes.

Almost really fucked up lol

yo good reads killerdog. i was moderately suspicious of you after your day 1 post, but after your posting during day 2 i was convinced you were town.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 22:45 GMT
#940
On September 09 2013 07:45 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 07:41 Umasi wrote:
well, you read me as scum for the wrong reasons haha, same with infii.

please talk more shit.

fucking clueless.

I had you as scum only because our little interaction and your filter.


then stop insulting holyflares play.

HE FUCKING STARTED TROWING SHIT FOR NO FUCKING REASON.
I had a good night of sleep.
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