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Crazometer
Australia45 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 24 2013 14:47 johnnywup wrote: i agree crazo is prolly scum but why do you think I'm scum kush? why do you think I think you are scum? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
So the two biggest things that stuck out to me. Im not really up for a yamato lynch. Have to go over his filter again but why wouldnt we lynch the other scummy person in sn0? Second we need to take a closer look at firmtofu there are a few reasons for this. On August 24 2013 03:37 FirmTofu wrote: My conclusion is that we should ignore the parity check and proceed with the game like it never happened. Let's get back to scumhunting instead of wasting our time with this nonsense. This post is a big reason, why would you ever ignore a red check? If we just ignore it there will always talk about it, or it will come back, makeing a even bigger waste of time. He should be vig shot or lynched otherwise town atmosphre will be completely destroyed. My scum games I am very active vayne made a post about its so much easier to play when you know everything. Firm knows this. On August 24 2013 13:51 Crazometer wrote: I agree with the sentiment that Rayns parity check is inconclusive however I wouldn't go as far as tofu suggested and discard it completely. Perhaps the other cop, should they exist, will be able to work some magic for us tonight to figure that all out. I'm curious as to what other people think the chances of the SAM claim being accurate are? I'll look through his filter now and try to produce a number. Otherwise, sn0 and vayne are probably the most suspicious to me. The pointed out sn0 attitude flip (against other threads) just doesn't feel right, he seems to bounce around from high to low spirited too much as well. Something about Vayne doesn't smell right either so I'll look through his filter and see if anything pops up but I'll probably get what I search for. I like this post alot makes me feel better about crazy. Anyway my pain meds are kicking in. So Im out for now. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
I find guessing any of your thoughts ever incredibly difficult | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 24 2013 14:57 Onegu wrote: So Im in the hospital now so this will be brief, I should be out tomorrow but not sure. So the two biggest things that stuck out to me. Im not really up for a yamato lynch. Have to go over his filter again but why wouldnt we lynch the other scummy person in sn0? Second we need to take a closer look at firmtofu there are a few reasons for this. This post is a big reason, why would you ever ignore a red check? If we just ignore it there will always talk about it, or it will come back, makeing a even bigger waste of time. He should be vig shot or lynched otherwise town atmosphre will be completely destroyed. My scum games I am very active vayne made a post about its so much easier to play when you know everything. Firm knows this. I like this post alot makes me feel better about crazy. Anyway my pain meds are kicking in. So Im out for now. This is the scummiest post I've ever read. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Furthermore, what exactly in that post made "you feel better about Crazy"? Please explain, because there is nothing redeeming about Crazy's post. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote: Onegu, the "red check" isn't a red check. It's a "same check". When we have no idea about either Rayn or Koshi's alignment, it is presumptuous to assume that either of them are scum. The only correct course of action is to request a vig shot on one of them so we can determine the alignment of the other. I have already asked for this. The fact that you are unable to reason through this is deeply troubling. Furthermore, what exactly in that post made "you feel better about Crazy"? Please explain, because there is nothing redeeming about Crazy's post. Right so you think town would claim SAM? So unless you think town would claim SAM its the exact same as a red check. And crazy post I liked because it called your post out, gave his thoughts which I thought townie, and while I want him to scum hunt and follow up on that post it made me feel townie from him. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:13 Onegu wrote: Right so you think town would claim SAM? So unless you think town would claim SAM its the exact same as a red check. And crazy post I liked because it called your post out, gave his thoughts which I thought townie, and while I want him to scum hunt and follow up on that post it made me feel townie from him. Of course, town could claim SAM. You think scum is more likely to claim SAM than town? Why? | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:16 FirmTofu wrote: Of course, town could claim SAM. You think scum is more likely to claim SAM than town? Why? In a game with cops what idiot townie would claim SAM? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
1) Koshi is SAM and claims SAM OR 2) Koshi is scum and claims SAM BOTH are unlikely. There is no realize reason to claim in both scenarios, so it is clear that Koshi made a bad play. However, I do not think the play was alignment indicative. Bad town play is synonymous with bad scum play in that neither alignment want to be doing it. If you can explain to me why scum Koshi would claim SAM, I may consider your theory. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
one of two possibilities must be true 1) rayne is scum 2) rayne is town both are pretty unlikely HE MUST BE 3P ZOMG | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:22 FirmTofu wrote: The way I see it: 1) Koshi is SAM and claims SAM OR 2) Koshi is scum and claims SAM BOTH are unlikely. There is no realize reason to claim in both scenarios, so it is clear that Koshi made a bad play. However, I do not think the play was alignment indicative. Bad town play is synonymous with bad scum play in that neither alignment want to be doing it. If you can explain to me why scum Koshi would claim SAM, I may consider your theory. To give him protection against red checks. 3 scum GF goon framer, framer claims SAM and frames goon every night you habe complete protection from red checks on every scum player. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:22 FirmTofu wrote: The way I see it: 1) Koshi is SAM and claims SAM OR 2) Koshi is scum and claims SAM BOTH are unlikely. There is no realize reason to claim in both scenarios, so it is clear that Koshi made a bad play. However, I do not think the play was alignment indicative. Bad town play is synonymous with bad scum play in that neither alignment want to be doing it. If you can explain to me why scum Koshi would claim SAM, I may consider your theory. are you thick in the head or just scum? as town he has reason to claim because if someone flips town and he gets parity checked with him and it says opposite he'd get suspected of being scum, and if its just an allignment cop he would come out red. If he gets checked he comes out RED. If he's scum it's obvious why he'd claim SAM. He'd come back red to checks anyways so it would be a way to potentially save him if he gets checked... | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
@Onegu: Don't you find it incredibly dangerous to fakeclaim a named role, which is typically claimed immediately if it exists, before everyone in the game has even posted? Any of the remaining people could have been the actual SAM. And if he was going to fakeclaim in that situation, then why wait to claim instead of doing it earlier? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:31 mkfuba07 wrote: @FT: Why is situation 1 unlikely? @Onegu: Don't you find it incredibly dangerous to fakeclaim a named role, which is typically claimed immediately if it exists, before everyone in the game has even posted? Any of the remaining people could have been the actual SAM. And if he was going to fakeclaim in that situation, then why wait to claim instead of doing it earlier? He asked why its more likely for scum to claim than town. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:27 Onegu wrote: To give him protection against red checks. 3 scum GF goon framer, framer claims SAM and frames goon every night you habe complete protection from red checks on every scum player. I can see that happening, but I still don't think it's as likely as Koshi being idiot town. We can look into a Koshi lynch if rayn doesn't get shot tonight. I'm not totally against lynching him. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:31 mkfuba07 wrote: @FT: Why is situation 1 unlikely? @Onegu: Don't you find it incredibly dangerous to fakeclaim a named role, which is typically claimed immediately if it exists, before everyone in the game has even posted? Any of the remaining people could have been the actual SAM. And if he was going to fakeclaim in that situation, then why wait to claim instead of doing it earlier? Koshi claiming SAM as an SAM is clearly stupid. Why claim when there is absolutely no net gain to town with your claim? You draw attention to yourself. You risk being counter-claimed. People like Onegu will accuse you of scum because this is a potential scum play. etc.. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 24 2013 15:37 FirmTofu wrote: Koshi claiming SAM as an SAM is clearly stupid. Why claim when there is absolutely no net gain to town with your claim? You draw attention to yourself. You risk being counter-claimed. People like Onegu will accuse you of scum because this is a potential scum play. etc.. No I believe he is SAM not scum I thought I made that clear. While it not terrible play for scum while it is for town, its still not that smart. Also everyone agreed SAM should claim n0, because there are cops and dont want to mess with thier checks. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Do you think Koshi is a better lynch than Yamato? | ||
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