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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 00:55 GMT
#1721
i get what you are laying though.
I asked him about this earlier and he said that he was lazy as town before and he gave an example game. I have some free time tonight and I will do meta analysis of yamato
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 24 2013 00:55 GMT
#1722
yamato's scumplay and townplay is different like day and night in case you haven't noticed...
now sleep.
table for two on a tv tray
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 01:01 GMT
#1723
On August 22 2013 09:07 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:06 kushm4sta wrote:
Am i correct to believe that yamato's scum meta is laziness?

I've been lazy as town plenty of times. Read day 1 of LXI.


Gonna try to find this game.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#1724
Does he mean LIX?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#1725
On August 24 2013 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I definitely did not tunnel WoS on D1. I focused mostly on other stuff. You were voting for him too. If you didn't think he was mafia at the end of D1 why did your vote end up on him then? And is it now suddenly my and only my fault that he was town? I understand you were not here before you replaced geript, but still... It's pretty cheap to say it's entirely my fault we mislynched.

no of course it's not only your fault I don't know where you're getting that from. You can't deny you were the major force pushing him though. I don't want to say that I thought he was town, but I really didn't know where else to put my vote seeing as I have a townread on sn0 and they were the only two lynches that had any remote chance of going through when I was caught up and ready to vote. I did think he had a decent chance of flipping scum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 01:27 GMT
#1726
johnnywup i wanna lynch you
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2013 01:30 GMT
#1727
pushing a mislynch is not alignment indicative people need to get over that. If you push as many lynches as rayn does you are bound to mislynch a lot, that's how it works. The only concerning thing really is the check, now that I re-read the setup and there is 2 different types of cops. That changes things completely considering it's kind of stupid to think that they somehow planned this elaborate plan specifically for the parity cop. I really hope rayn is scum or it's another (recent) case of town getting fucked by PRs which seems to be a trend lately.
I come in for the scraps
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2013 03:47 GMT
#1728
You people demoralize me.
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 03:54 GMT
#1729
you weren't really that lazy in lxi yamato
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2013 03:56 GMT
#1730
On August 24 2013 12:54 kushm4sta wrote:
you weren't really that lazy in lxi yamato

day 1 I was. I almost got lynched bro.

It's sad that you had to look up that game; you were in it.
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 04:16 GMT
#1731
On August 24 2013 12:56 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 12:54 kushm4sta wrote:
you weren't really that lazy in lxi yamato

day 1 I was. I almost got lynched bro.

It's sad that you had to look up that game; you were in it.


I dont remember games by Roman numerals. But I do remember that you were pretty trolly and not analytical and that's why you almost got lynched.

What do you think about rayne's alignments and the parity check?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2013 04:32 GMT
#1732
On August 24 2013 13:16 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 12:56 yamato77 wrote:
On August 24 2013 12:54 kushm4sta wrote:
you weren't really that lazy in lxi yamato

day 1 I was. I almost got lynched bro.

It's sad that you had to look up that game; you were in it.


I dont remember games by Roman numerals. But I do remember that you were pretty trolly and not analytical and that's why you almost got lynched.

What do you think about rayne's alignments and the parity check?

It's more believable that he got framed or is unaware miller than him actually being scum. Why would he risk being lynched after WoS flipped town as mafia? His whole D1 play is far too aggressive to be explained with any sort of survival mindset.
Writer@WriterYamato
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 24 2013 04:51 GMT
#1733
I agree with the sentiment that Rayns parity check is inconclusive however I wouldn't go as far as tofu suggested and discard it completely. Perhaps the other cop, should they exist, will be able to work some magic for us tonight to figure that all out. I'm curious as to what other people think the chances of the SAM claim being accurate are? I'll look through his filter now and try to produce a number.

Otherwise, sn0 and vayne are probably the most suspicious to me. The pointed out sn0 attitude flip (against other threads) just doesn't feel right, he seems to bounce around from high to low spirited too much as well. Something about Vayne doesn't smell right either so I'll look through his filter and see if anything pops up but I'll probably get what I search for.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 24 2013 04:53 GMT
#1734
To add to the above though I still find myself agreeing with much of what Sn0 is saying.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 24 2013 05:26 GMT
#1735
Ok this is my take on Kosh being SAM. The number of positive points indicate the likelihood of the SAM claim being true.

On August 20 2013 20:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:36 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.

...

Did you not read your role PM or something?

I did and I was disappointed.


Self aware is hard to play and hard to leverage in your favour so it is an understandable point. +1

Add some decent breadcrumming (not quoteworthy) in the survivor claim discussion. +1

On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit.

But I am the self aware miller guy.


Sounds weak. Trying to act not overly interested (WIFOM scum play). Page 16 getting pretty late, occurs after some light pressure from rayn. -1

Very consistently anti WOS for the whole thread but it seems that those thoughts were shared by many ~0

On August 23 2013 22:19 Koshi wrote:
Fuck it. I am going to go with rayn is still town.

Makes a call rather than remaining undecided. I'm unsure on what occasions, if any, that as a scum he would claim rayn is scum. If he is indeed SAM I wouldn't put too much weight on his call but would agree with it. ~0

Rest of thread -- general town play +2

Total: +3 If I had to, I'd say that he was being honest. Well that was pretty inconclusive/uninformative, I wouldnt've posted it if I hadn't been typing it as I went along. I flipped through a few more of his pages but nothing struck me.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 24 2013 05:34 GMT
#1736
why now crazometer? We dont care anymore....

I could lynch this dude to.
No gg, No skill.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 24 2013 05:43 GMT
#1737
yes crazy and johnny have high probability of being part of the scumteam IMO
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 24 2013 05:45 GMT
#1738
Re Vayne:

Pages 1-2 of his filter give a strong townie vibe, but beyond shooting down yamato there isn't much contribution.

On August 23 2013 09:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 09:44 yamato77 wrote:
On August 23 2013 09:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
By that same token, you are mafia yamato. No real pressure this game yet.

Yamato's case

[image loading]

I've been far more proactive in the thread than you have. I haven't played since yesterday, so what? I'm here now, and you still have yet to do anything to discount the feeling I have that you are mafia.


and back to square one, the proactive thing again. A lot of people that like repeating stuff in this game like it somehow sounds better the second time.

I've easily discredited everything you've said so far so I'll leave it at that. If you have anything new i'll be glad to demolish that too.


Cocky, anti-discussion.

On August 24 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 02:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 24 2013 02:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its hard to read you as town when you did literally no scumhunting D1, threw away your vote on somebody who obviously wasn't getting lynched AND never even tried to convince others to lynch him, made no case on him beyond "well you voted me and I warned you I'll vote you back" and are now calling him "insanely scummy" still without further justification. And are implying that you have done your job and that it certainly couldn't be even a fraction your fault that we just lynched a powerful blue role.

I'd love to hear some reasons why yamato is scummy. Preferably compare/contrast them to A) a confirmed red check and B) Actively driving a mislynch for ~70 hours.


whats the point of convincing you of anything when you are already too biased?

All of the things you just said describe yamato also but he somehow isn't scummy to you. Hmm..

1. threw away his vote as well

2. did no scumhunting

3. said he would not change his vote no matter what



Yamato contributed more day 1. I really wish he didn't also play awfully by voting the way he did, but he isn't here claiming he did his job by OMGUSing. The very act of taking the initiative to vote for somebody of his own accord is better than just sitting there waiting for somebody to vote you so you can vote them back.

I mean, you just listed what he did, said he did the same as you, and described him as insanely scummy. Also where did I call him "not scummy" I said nobody made a case on him including you.

Really, I don't want to lynch you for at least 5 IRL days so I'm not sure why you are so convinced I'm biased against you.


andd checkmate. What alignment am I again when I look really scummy? Oh that's right, town.

why do you need a case so badly to decide of somebody is scum or not? Can't think on your own without sheeping a case to make yourself look decent?

Bias is pretty much the definition of my last post; you are arguing with me about what I am doing when yamato is doing the same exact thing then asking me why he is scummy? How does that make any sense?

Yamato contributing more is completely subjective so not even going to comment on that.


Cocky, anti discussion. As one of the town you tend to have a stronger passion and more of an urgency in your scumhunting. I'm not really seeing any of that here. He seems to be happy, perhaps even prefer, to have others not agree with him.

On August 24 2013 02:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
@vayne Sorry, I don't have the time to comprehensively reread 14 people every time they post. I start with a read, and it develops as they post (yam looked town). If you wish to make me reconsider, make a case and if it looks promising I will re-evaluate that person completely via filter etc. Very simple.

Did you seriously just say that "When I'm Scummy that means I'm town"?

This from the guy that started the game with "Please don't judge me by meta but rather by actions" at the start of this game. I just quoted that post like last page.

Yamato contributing more is absolutely objective because he took any initiative whatsoever instead of sitting inside his castle waiting for somebody to come and attack him. He bothered to even call somebody scummy instead of literally "I warned you this would happen" and counter vote 0 argument.

You are free to contribute now though, and if you wish to do so then more power to you. If you achieve anything I'll get off your back.


How is that meta? It's a simple fact. Check any game I've ever played in. When nobody suspects me, I have been scum more often than not. When people say I look scummy I'm town because scum need to try and make garbage tier arguments on the less tryhard players since that's all they can really do.

Why do you care how we got to the end result? The fact of the matter is yamato did no more than me in getting a scum lynched yesterday, anything other than that is your completely biased opinion.

I'll contribute on my own grounds, until I know at least one scum there is very few people I trust right now


It really all comes off cocky and lone rangerish. At first I thought he was a strong silent type but now I'm leaning towards a red or black role. Maybe he just had a bad day .
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 24 2013 05:46 GMT
#1739
Yeah re: Koshi as I mentioned it did seem wasted. I suppose it was partially my way of catching up on the thread.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 24 2013 05:47 GMT
#1740
i agree crazo is prolly scum but why do you think I'm scum kush?
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