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raynpelikoneet
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yamato77
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On August 24 2013 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually i think FirmTofu and Oats are mafia. Why do you say that? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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-> if i get shot, he looks good -> if i do not get shot, cool, let's lynch him Oats as mafia is more willing to follow the thread sentiment than as town. He had a firm town read on WoS, yet he voted for him "because of the unvote". Oats NEVER does that as town. In NWM (scum) he asked the right questions from Ace N1, he surely did get what i was after. When D2 came and other people did not get mycase on Ace, Oats dropped the whole matter. Oats as town votes his scumreads and doesn't give a fuck who else thinks they are scum. It's not his actions, as he questions his scummates as well, it's his true actions (where his vote is and why). This doesn't look like Oats is doing his own stuff. Now he has biggest scumreads on yamato, sno. If i get vigged look if he pursues them and how. Because he should. This is not a strong read, but i am leaning mafia on him. I think yamato is scum for his "i'll tell you the right things when it's too late" attitude. I already called him out on this D1. He was not willing to stop the shitfest between me & WoS. He did say "stop", but he never gave any reasons for it. That's fishy as at that point there was a voice of reason (DP) alive. He just wanted the thing go on. D1 he gives some reasoning for it. Me & WoS fight goes on, what does yamato do when he gets back? He gets into an argument with vayne (doomed to fail either way) and does not comment on ANYTHING ELSE going on in game. It's like "hey guys i came back to shit the thread for some, but i don't really want to push this town to right track, while i think rayn&WoS are both town, i'll just them continue on their rant". Sno still looks bad, for like everything. another possibilities are johnny (mainly because of geript) & Rainbows (weak read, but still). Hope you guys figure it out, and i propose you lynch yamato. | ||
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Crazometer
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I am also interested. I'm confident it wont be a case of the rayn train stopping at all stations. FT seemed a bit bizzare in his explanation before but I'm unsure what to think of oats. | ||
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yamato77
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That's just a flat out lie, lol. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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yamato77
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On August 24 2013 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Another thing i would like you to explain. Why do you have such a strong town read on me? Because your reason was "he is too batshit insane to be scum". That is extremely weak reasoning knowing you have just played a scumgame with me. johnnywup was right on that, this game looks a lot like my play in GoT, but then again, it does look like my town games aswell. How can you possibly have a townread on me based on what i did on N0? To me it makes no sense. Because I'm good at getting townreads on players like you. How do you think I play with Oats every game? | ||
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yamato77
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On August 24 2013 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think you did really try to convince anyone. You havn't really engaded into ANY discussion in this game besides telling vayne is mafia. Your only scumread in this game has been vayne. You have never really tried to get him lynched. The "WoS is 3p" argument you first brought up on him is bullshit, even if vayne was mafia. Who else do you think is scum? The only people I'm confident in calling NOT mafia are you and Kush, lol. Any of the rest could be mafia, given the way the game has gone. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On August 24 2013 19:13 yamato77 wrote: Because I'm good at getting townreads on players like you. How do you think I play with Oats every game? Also i wanted to comment on this. You should not be confident in getting townread on me. I listened your podcast on Catch 22 D1 (it was very good btw), and your read on me put a smile on my face. tbh i think the only person i have seen who i think will be able to catch me (like really catch me - pants down) when i am mafia is Hapahauli. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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yamato77
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On August 24 2013 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let's talk. What do you think of what i wrote on FT & oats? I don't think your point against FT is strong (him contradicting his own read is not necessarily a scum tell), but he has been suspicious with what he's written this game and especially with how he entered the thread, as I've said before. His initial reads were written wonky with stuff like "he looks town so he's scum" and vice versa that just sounds like bullshit. Haven't read him too closely, but like I said earlier in the game I get scum vibes from him. Early on Oats seemed town but I feel like his thread presence is lower than it usually is when he's town. His reads don't seem as strong and he hasn't been particularly forward with pushing them, either. In my experience, when he's scum he's a lot more passive and agreeable and his activity tapers off. I'm not sure on him at all but it should be more clear as the game goes on. | ||
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yamato77
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On August 24 2013 19:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Bleh, sorry for tripleposting. This is also why i don't like Rainbows. He has played scum with me, and seems to have zero doubt on me. He should, if he is town. I don't know what to tell you except that maybe you aren't as difficult to read as town as you think you are? It's far easier to get a townread on someone than get a solid scumread. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On August 24 2013 19:39 yamato77 wrote: I don't think your point against FT is strong (him contradicting his own read is not necessarily a scum tell), but he has been suspicious with what he's written this game and especially with how he entered the thread, as I've said before. His initial reads were written wonky with stuff like "he looks town so he's scum" and vice versa that just sounds like bullshit. Haven't read him too closely, but like I said earlier in the game I get scum vibes from him. Early on Oats seemed town but I feel like his thread presence is lower than it usually is when he's town. His reads don't seem as strong and he hasn't been particularly forward with pushing them, either. In my experience, when he's scum he's a lot more passive and agreeable and his activity tapers off. I'm not sure on him at all but it should be more clear as the game goes on. I agree that FT entered the thread the same way he did in Titanic. A big post with lots of reads that say pretty much nothing conclusive. I think his thought process was easy to follow after that, until N1 started. Then he went back to "i make no sense". So we agree on Oats. On August 24 2013 19:39 yamato77 wrote: I don't know what to tell you except that maybe you aren't as difficult to read as town as you think you are? It's far easier to get a townread on someone than get a solid scumread. I think this is plain out wrong. In GoT i was town read for almost everyone before we decided to all in and claim scum with Acro. In Catch 22 i was town read for everyone but Hapa (and apparently Coag, and his reasons for shooting me still remain unknown to me - he just said "i didn't like you" post game). In NMXXXsomething i was town read for everyone besides the guy i accused throughout the game. Those are the games i have been able to play to my true potential as mafia. | ||
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Umasi
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raynpelikoneet
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yamato77
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On August 24 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree that FT entered the thread the same way he did in Titanic. A big post with lots of reads that say pretty much nothing conclusive. I think his thought process was easy to follow after that, until N1 started. Then he went back to "i make no sense". So we agree on Oats. I'll take a deeper look at FT's posting since the flip. If what you say is true, he is a good person to lead the lynch against D2. On Oats, I'd prefer to wait and see. I think this is plain out wrong. In GoT i was town read for almost everyone before we decided to all in and claim scum with Acro. In Catch 22 i was town read for everyone but Hapa (and apparently Coag, and his reasons for shooting me still remain unknown to me - he just said "i didn't like you" post game). In NMXXXsomething i was town read for everyone besides the guy i accused throughout the game. Those are the games i have been able to play to my true potential as mafia. Read as town as mafia =/= read as town as town | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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- Read Darthpunk's filter! The dude is good at this shit. - Read my filter. Ignore anything that is about WoS. Read other stuff. - Read WoS filter. Ignore everything about me & Koshi. (Sadly there is not much there). goodluck guys! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I would still like you to tell me why do you think i am town, and how does my play differ from my play in games where i have been mafia? Otherwise it's hard to believe you have a "valid" read on me. Same thing could be said especially about Rainbows. | ||
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