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This is one of the first posts from him in CCM: On May 13 2013 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote: I also don't think I've ever played with a N0 before. Can't remember. Will there be a mafia NK tonight aside from possible power role use? Because if so why are we giving mafia possible targets by talking..? (I guess they could probably knock off known strong players anyway but still.) (Here is a link to the post for the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407685¤tpage=11#210 ) After that, when hosts confirm that roles can also act on N0, WoS retracts from his stance and starts scumhunting. If you read the game from that point on it can clearly be seen. This is what i call WoS out for: On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town. Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game? WoS does not want to answer me, he keeps dodging the question, and this is all i get out of him: On August 20 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn. Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC? Hell, did I ever even mention it again? Look at the answer. He is saying "look, i am playing to my town meta as i played the same way in CCM". The answer i was looking for (in case he was town was in this post (from CCM): On May 13 2013 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote: BH you and I are on seemingly exact wavelengths this game. Not sure what to make of that. I wasn't sure as to whether or not kita was town or scum but I know he was a good kill for mafia. DP not so much due to thread sentiment, but I do believe they were likely both scum NKs, no vig involved. Personally if scum were thinking like me I think they'd basically assume DP was town and that town KNEW he was town; and letting him get away as an active (assume-confirmed) townie is a no-no as scum. I'm not sure it was a good play as scum though since it essentially destroys any hope of them trying to secure the miller mislynch today, especially since there were definitely some townies who may have been on board for that, but DP is a valuable townie so we're at a loss for sure in the end. This is essentially why I was wondering whether it was a good idea to bother starting up conversation before the N0 NKs; it essentially assured the mafia that kita/DP would be good first kills due to their activity. It's probable that other strong townies will pop up as the game goes on but the two of them painted massive targets on their backs imo. This is a perfectly fine explanation for his behaviour. Why does he not say that here, in this game? Why is he not trying to explain why town!WoS would bring that "let's not talk on N0" stuff again? Answer is: - Because he is mafia and he is trying to play the "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game". - He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough. - If he was town he could, should and would explain himself. Lynch D1. Or better, vig N0. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:28 DarthPunk wrote: A fake jailkeeper claim is FAR more complicated than a miller claim. Take it from someone who solo'd a scum win off the back of a fake Jailkeeper claim. The thing is people are accusing Koshi of fakeclaiming here, now, because "he is in fear of getting lynched for it". You do not know the jailkeeper situation, at all. In the last game townie claimed a watcher who had watched 2 people visit a roleblocked townie and if those two people did not claim, we would lynch them. One guy claimed medic (reasonable), another one was either roleblocker or JK. We were screaming to Koshi in mafia QT "fuck you, why are you trying to throw the game, the only way you can survive is to claim JK". Koshi kept his head calm and said "no way i am claiming, the dude is fakeclaiming watcher". He was fakeclaiming. Does this sound like a dude who being called out for something in his couple of first posts would panic as scum and fakeclaim miller? | ||
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WoS on the other hand... Can you now comment on my case? | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote: I'm all in on WoS. He has my hypothetical vote until he gives an answer to both the original question, butt more importantly explains his avoidance discussing it. That is the sad part. He can't justify it anymore to me. I gave him multiple possibilities of explaining himself. Now i have given him the correct answer. I am not accepting it any more. :/ That's why expect people to answer me when i ask something about them. | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote: how pissed while you be if WoS flips town Rayn? tbh very pissed. WoS should know me better and imo would never do what he did if he was town. | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:12 Rainbows wrote: Koshi and Rayn are probably town. I think Darthpunk is being stupid by wanting to lynch the miller claim. He's at best a vig shot--unfortunately that is not indicative of Darthpunks alignment. Sn0_man likes to passively finger point at people and is probably scum. I propose you read the whole thread before commenting. | ||
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DP, what do you think of geript & snodude? | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: between this and this, DP, what changed? Oats DP explained that already. Could you answer me, about WoS case and do you think if Koshi is scum or not? | ||
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Why do you call out people flip-flopping around some things when you do exactly the same on important matters (like a case on WoS)? | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:44 geript wrote: What's your beef? I don't have 80 posts yet? Whatever. Why don't you want to lynch Crazowhatever. Because i am not sure if he is scum, you have not provided a case good enough and WoS is mafia. If you shoot WoS on N0 and make a good case on him i can think of it. | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:47 geript wrote: Fuck you Rayn. Tell me why you don't want to lynch Craz Huh. I see nothing that makes me think he is mafia? | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:48 geript wrote: Fristed. Tell me why you think him +1ing WoS stupid no talk N0 idea inst scummy. Also the stupid odd way to claim town. wtf man? Because i have seen townies do it before (WoS). I assume face to face -mafia games start like that. What's scummy in that if he is new? | ||
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