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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 17:33 GMT
#501
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.

Thats all.
No gg, No skill.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 20 2013 17:34 GMT
#502
On August 21 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:26 Rainbows wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:13 Rainbows wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rainbows make a case on Snodude. All i see is you saying "hey guys, don't you think this and that is scummy?". Point out why is calling scummy behaviour scummy. I can understand snoman doing that as town aswell.


Well, I'm lazy with cases and I just post post post things as they come.

My issue stands with him being a passive finger pointer, and it's something that I see scum do time and time again. Where can they push a mislynch? Where can they set up and justify their position for future mislynches?

Brightly shining townies are such because they take hard stances and lynch the fuck out of their suspicions. Good scum try to emulate that, but usually fall short. Either Sn0 is scum, or he just doesn't have much of an opinion?

I'm a lot more agressive and I make a lot more cases as scum because I know who is dirty and who is clean.

I have lots of opinions but precious little certainty as town so I read what people write and do my best to make sure that everybody is participating. I still think we should lynch Koshi but we've been over that a thousand times and we aren't getting anywhere with it. Reiterating that every half hour isn't solving anything or advancing the thread.

I still dislike how Onegu is playing but so far any attempts to keep him a topic have failed and it isn't like we are deep enough into the game to seriously fault him for a lack of content. Plus he finally made a comment that felt like it was more than pure sheep (his last post re: Koshi that I don't agree with but at least it was semi-intelligent).

I'm also the only person making reasonable arguments regarding vig shots.


While I disagree and argue that vig shots are largely a waste of time to speculate on, I surprisingly like the first part of this answer as a defense.

Wait Rainbows. The "first part of the answer" is exactly what you are accusing him of. lol.


The first sentence hit me hard, the part about knowing alignments. That's exactly how I am as scum--remember the Ravens thing in our newbie?

I do think town should generally be more aggressive about pursuing their scumreads, because it's an issue I struggle to overcome. The first part struck me as pretty damn townie, whether or not his actions are optimal town or not. You said it yourself that his actions could have come from either alignment.

I just needed Sn0 to actually talk with me.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 17:37 GMT
#503
On August 21 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Snodude: In what game have you played scum here? I tried looking at your profile but you don't have info on there of your mafia games and i don't want to look over 10 pages of posted threads.


I replaced into NMM38 (after scum had thrown the game Day 1 lol).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399518&currentpage=56#1110 is the replacement post I start after that.

I tried to take control and salvage but 0 chance I think (though I definitely made errors).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 17:45 GMT
#504
Rainbows could you do a meta-comparsion on sno in this game and his scumgame as that's what seems to be lessening your scumread on him.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 17:46 GMT
#505
On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.

Thats all.

no it's not. you are probably mafia.-
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 17:47 GMT
#506
On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.

Thats all.

no it's not. you are probably mafia.-

thanks for telling me what you think your case is about.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 18:00 GMT
#507
On August 21 2013 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.

Thats all.

no it's not. you are probably mafia.-

thanks for telling me what you think your case is about.

Ehh.. i think i was pretty clear in it:

"There is a perfectly fine explanation for his behaviour. Why does he not say that here, in this game? Why is he not trying to explain why town!WoS would bring that "let's not talk on N0" stuff again?

Answer is:
- Because he is mafia and he is trying to play the "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game".
- He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough.
- If he was town he could, should and would explain himself."


Can you give me a single town reason why WoS would not explain his "we should not talk N0 in this game"?
Can you?

Because i can't, and i gave all of you his scum!reasons, supported with his own post.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 18:02 GMT
#508
yeah thats scum reasons why he wont talk to you.
Town reasons are that he doesnt give a fuck.


YOUR CASE IS ALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT WOS DIDNT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 18:04 GMT
#509
I dunno rayn, I just dont think ONLY scum WoS wouldve been a dick.

And it worries me that DP thought that your case was awesome. Does it worry you?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 18:05 GMT
#510
Oats please do not be bad now, not now.
Read the post again and please do not be bad. It's all explained in it.
- He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 18:06 GMT
#511
On August 21 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dunno rayn, I just dont think ONLY scum WoS wouldve been a dick.

And it worries me that DP thought that your case was awesome. Does it worry you?

nonono. DP is town. My case is awesome. You can lynch me on D2 if WoS flips town. Deal?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 18:09 GMT
#512
On August 21 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dunno rayn, I just dont think ONLY scum WoS wouldve been a dick.

And it worries me that DP thought that your case was awesome. Does it worry you?

nonono. DP is town. My case is awesome. You can lynch me on D2 if WoS flips town. Deal?

why would town rayn always be right?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 18:11 GMT
#513
On August 21 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats please do not be bad now, not now.
Read the post again and please do not be bad. It's all explained in it.
- He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough.

its not lylo.
Its not deadline.

Its not even the fucking day.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 18:15 GMT
#514
I am going to die either way on N0. Really, this is the most confident read i have ever had on the first phase of any mafia game of my life. Vig WoS please. Please vig WoS, he is mafia!
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#515
You can lynch me on D1 if a vig shoots WoS and i am wrong. srsly!
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#516
Im not comfortable calling someone scum off something he didnt do.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#517
meh, as if we would do that for being wrong. Why so dramaqueen rayn?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#518
I am not a dramaqueen. WoS is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 18:21 GMT
#519
Well he is the person I like the least, together with the snowman.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 18:23 GMT
#520
I still think pushing for a lynch on somebody you believe is mafia is more valuable to town (due to how voting provides information) than pushing for a vig on the same person. Vig shots provide so little info, but are solid for getting rid of the scummy people whose lynch doesn't really provide enough discussion and who won't provide enough content to judge them on.

Maybe thats just the way I see it but pulling for a Vig shot on WoS just doesn't seem right. Even though I'd be quite suprised at this stage if rayn was scum. Yes, being afraid of dying and then people forgetting your case is a legitimate concern I suppose.
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