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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 27 2013 17:15 GMT
#2321
they think crazo foresaw his death or something and made an elaborate attempt at bussing me, makes sense right

so hard to have good reads when everyone says crazy shit
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 17:20 GMT
#2322
Crazy didn't even push you with any seriousness. He quoted a lot of your posts and ended up with "maybe he had a bad day".
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 27 2013 17:22 GMT
#2323
the last thing in his filter is "if I go down kill vayne" That's not definitive to you?

whatever stupid thing to argue but I have to try and decipher who is the insane town and who is scum just trying to keep everyone relevant and it's no easy task really
I come in for the scraps
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 27 2013 17:23 GMT
#2324
Crazy shit happened this game.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 17:25 GMT
#2325
"if I go down kill vayne" is PURE wifom since if he goes down he flips then we read everything he said from a scum perspective. There is no way I treat that as evidence.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 17:33 GMT
#2326
Tell you what vayne: Gimme 1 solid read that isn't yamato. Town, Scum, IDGAF. Must include reasons, preferably ones that I can relate to.

It is fairly obvious to me that somewhere my reads are off given how Rainbows is going after FT, although technically it could still be a bus. I'd like to see something from you since you aren't a solid read yet.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 27 2013 17:36 GMT
#2327
vayne is town i think. I recently had a scumgame with him and this feels really different than that. Hard to put words to it but mostly it is difference in his attitude.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 17:51 GMT
#2328
On August 24 2013 23:09 kushm4sta wrote:
scumteam is yamato, mkfuba, onegu
final answer
no take backs

Alright Kush this was your last conclusive set of reads. You are a scorching 0/2 on the flips. Still sold on yamato? who else?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 17:52 GMT
#2329
Okay fuba didn't flip, but I'm assuming he is confirmed town to you as well?
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 17:55 GMT
#2330
Are scum controlling the thread right now? Why are people not even discussing the flip?

Rayn flipped suspicious citizen. Rayn is SAME with Koshi, so Koshi is either scum or SAM. The NK narrows down a ton of possibilities.

So this begs the question, why was rayn killed? Plenty of people were suspicious of rayn; namely Vayne, sn0, and Koshi. Rayn's death revealed a ton of information that town can use to figure out this game. Rayn kill does NOT make sense based on the information we have at hand.

The only remaining possibility is if rayn was pushing a lynch on scum. Enter Sn0. Towards the end of the previous day, Sn0 was being heavily pressured by Rayn. Rayn vowed to push a lynch on Sn0, and lo and behold, he dies at night. Sn0 has been obvious scum the entire game and no one is pressuring him like they should be except Rayn and I.

If we can't consolidate our votes on Sn0, we lose.
##vote: Sn0_man

I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 17:58 GMT
#2331
I was wondering when scum was gonna show up to present that theory.

Its the only reason I can think of that they killed rayn actually: to paint me as scum.
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 18:00 GMT
#2332
If you people think I'm scum, you would also have to believe that:
1) I killed my strongest townread.
2) I killed the one guy pursuing my strongest scumread.
3) I would kill someone that has defended me throughout the game.
4) I would kill someone whose death would reveal a ton of information to town.

Rayn's death was a terrible NK. I would never kill town rayn as scum because he is always too aggressive and makes stupid plays.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 18:01 GMT
#2333
On August 28 2013 02:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
I was wondering when scum was gonna show up to present that theory.

Its the only reason I can think of that they killed rayn actually: to paint me as scum.

You're defending yourself with WIFOM?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 18:02 GMT
#2334
Anyway, kush and fuba are totes town. Anyone who says otherwise is stupid or scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#2335
So we're lynching FT or Sn0 today? That sounds fun. Double bus? Or one mafia and one town? Because both are not town.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#2336
@kush
Give me your thoughts on Sn0_man.

Scumteam is: Sn0_man/Koshi and one of Rainbows/Yamato/johnnywup.
Vayne is possible scum but significantly less likely.

Koshi is scum who fakeclaimed SAM so that he would never be checked. I've already explained Sn0_man.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 27 2013 18:08 GMT
#2337
um rayne is the same as koshi?? when did that happen?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 27 2013 18:08 GMT
#2338
On August 28 2013 03:00 FirmTofu wrote:
If you people think I'm scum, you would also have to believe that:
1) I killed my strongest townread.
2) I killed the one guy pursuing my strongest scumread.
3) I would kill someone that has defended me throughout the game.
4) I would kill someone whose death would reveal a ton of information to town.

Rayn's death was a terrible NK. I would never kill town rayn as scum because he is always too aggressive and makes stupid plays.


1) Killing your strongest townread as scum isn't illogical. All your reads are for show anyway since you know real alignments. Hell it makes you look "right".
2) Killing the guy pursuing your scumread also makes sense. It paints your scum-read as scummier.
3) Killing somebody defending you is irrelevant. Unless somebody has nailed the whole scumteam every townie has defended a scummer.
4) Quick, what new info does rayns death provide town? That he was an NSAM? Sure it proved MY scumread wrong but it didn't change the vast majority of town reads in general.
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 18:08 GMT
#2339
On August 28 2013 03:05 Rainbows wrote:
So we're lynching FT or Sn0 today? That sounds fun. Double bus? Or one mafia and one town? Because both are not town.

Rainbows, if you are town, can you explain why you think Sn0_man is town? I've seen Koshi's explanation. I've seen Sn0_man's explanation. I haven't seen yours.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 27 2013 18:10 GMT
#2340
On August 28 2013 03:08 kushm4sta wrote:
um rayne is the same as koshi?? when did that happen?

The WoS check was rayn SAME with Koshi. Did you not catch that? lol.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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