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On August 22 2013 09:08 Rainbows wrote: In b4 Rayn comes in: DEFENDING HIMSELF AS TOWN VIA META ----> SCUM 100% Okay so you still did not understand my case on WoS as you even jokingly bring this up? | ||
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On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702 So many people can't read. rofl As for the Rayn/WoS situation, I'm not sold on the WoS=scum theory. Rayn's entire case is based on the idea that a person should always play as they do as town given a similar situation. Funny enough, it is the SAME rationale DP used to accuse Rayn, yet was ultimately dropped. Do I need to explain why these meta reads are fucking terrible or can we all agree to stop being bad and scumhunt with more conventional means? This is not opposing anything, this is: 1) misreading my resons to think WoS is mafia 2) casting doubt at multiple direction without taking any clear stance on anything. | ||
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On August 22 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote: There's a very clear stance. I don't think WoS is scum. Are you that thick? Okay, if that is true why do you in the very same post question WoS about other stuff he has done? Do you usually like to question your townreads randomly? In a tone that does not even sound like you think they are town? | ||
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On August 22 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote: I question him because I don't think you're scum either? Have you just not read my filter at all? Most people seem to understand that I've been attempting to get you two to stop arguing for most of the game. Yet, on N0, you did absolutely nothing to tell either one of us why we are wrong. Regarding me giving false readings from the case itself does not make me stop. For WoS you telling him "rayn is too batshit insane to be mafia"is not going to be enough. You actually did not even try to stop us. | ||
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On August 22 2013 09:22 yamato77 wrote: I told both of you that your reasons for thinking the other were scum were fallacious and argued this point multiple times. I don't understand how poor your reading comprehension is. Well you certainly got your message through as me and WoS did not stop and other people who have taken a part of this conversation on D1 did not remember that kind of post before you needed to point out something along the lines from your filter. Did you try really hard to get the town on what you believed is the right track? Are you usually this un-convincing as town? | ||
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Make sure you also tell iam arguing with my scmbuddy. What is your point? Why am i mafia? Because i do post much as mafia too or am capable of faking my town play? | ||
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As to why he would care, surely it is self evident that each player should be interested in the roles of others. Sadly here this apparently only applies to scum and town players should not be interested in other people's roles. | ||
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On August 22 2013 19:33 Oatsmaster wrote: his play is similar to his town game koshi His play is also similar to his scum play. And his play is scummy. | ||
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On August 22 2013 20:01 Oatsmaster wrote: geript isnt town to me Why do you want to lynch a guy who accuses your scumread? | ||
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Also Oats, how does Onegu differ from players like yamato, kushmasta, Crazo? Onegu who do you actually want to lynch and why? Also what is your read on kushmasta? | ||
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On August 22 2013 20:50 Koshi wrote: raynpelikoneet, do you have a game from the Snowman as scum? He quoted it himself in thread on N0 when he was talking with Rainbows. That's also why i did not like Rainbows. He did reach to a 100% wrong meta-conclusion from comparing snodude in this game with that one. | ||
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Case on Onegu is weak. Oats why does Onegu attacking kush make him scum? You are saying he should use meta in reading kush right? Given your argument, you yourself do this: 1) yamato is useless -> meta suggests useless yamato is mafia 2) Onegu is useless -> meta suggests useless Onegu is not necessarily mafia Why are you voting for Onegu over yamato? Case on kush is 50/50 in my eyes. I can see what Onegu is trying to say, and he is saying the truth. However kush's play as town looks like this. I do not know what kush scumplay looks like, as i ididn't read his posts at all in Sicilian, or the posts i read he was on a same wavelength with me. I understand kush's meta is somewhat "when he is right he is mafia, when he says stupid stuff he is town". That's not enough to judge him fully on D1 and he definitely is worth questioning as he seems to be jumping form one place to another. Now that he is actually playing (meaning you can actually fucking figure his alignment) everyone is giving him a free pass and saying he is town. Oats is making a case on the person who is questioning him? That's not right in my eyes. Case on Crazometer is really shit. The dude is new, he has reasonable thoughts and has said some fucked up things at least i do not understand. geript is jumping on something that does not mean the guy is mafia. WoS does the same thing. There is simply not enough evidence to say the guy is mafia. Best lynches are definitely WoS and Snoman. - WoS did anti-town stuff, gave a shitty explanation for it, didn't want to explain himself any further. Not only did he not answer me, but he also did not answer to Koshi, who made an excellent recap of why WoS' defense is really bad and does not hold water. People are not willing to comment on this, people are not willing to debunk my case. Most people just try to discredit me and Koshi, for what? On top of that nobody (besides yamato - to some extent) said anything against my case on N0 when Darthpunk was alive and shared my thoughts on WoS. That is fucking fishy. - Snoman jumped on everything and pushed nothing. Only thing he "pushed" was discrediting me at the end of N0 with shitty reasons. Then he disappeared. His whole N0 was calling people out for weak reasons, and for reasons he was guily himself for. | ||
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