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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:06 GMT
#2101
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:07 GMT
#2102
He wasnt getting shot by mafia so he'd probably live through the night. Asking to be vigged as COP is fucking retarded.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2013 17:14 GMT
#2103
Jeezus. Read the fucking thread Rainbows. It was a fakeclaim to gain reactions. It sounds dumb and it is dumb.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:19 GMT
#2104
I only read to the part of both dudes claiming, what the fuck.

Fakeclaims? If Rayn is town he is seriously fucking town over this game. That did NOTHING to gain town any momentum. We should lynch Yamato, and then we should lynch Onegu.

##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2013 17:24 GMT
#2105
I want to lynch Onegu first tbh. We will see what happens.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:26 GMT
#2106
On August 26 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Onegu first tbh. We will see what happens.


Okay we can do this too

##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu


Afk rest of day.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2013 17:43 GMT
#2107
lol, let's lynch Raibbows?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 09:25:57
August 25 2013 17:51 GMT
#2108
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2013 18:00 GMT
#2109
hey Oats you are dead.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2013 18:04 GMT
#2110
Yeah i feel less good about yamato lynch.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Rainbows
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2013 20:00 GMT
#2111
lol Oats this wasn't the vocal mafia thread :D
I had a good night of sleep.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 25 2013 22:00 GMT
#2112
Alright, this is why I believe we should lynch Onegu instead of yamato today.

On August 22 2013 19:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 12:16 geript wrote:
First off, I think the Rayn Train is just way off base and I'm going to treat him as if he's been drunk the whole day. He's likely town but not worth listening to as he's just calling people scum if they disagree with him and completely ignoring anything that's happening outside the whole "WOS IS SCUM BRO!!!!!!!! KILLLEEEEEEEETTTT" shit that's going on.

On August 20 2013 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow.
So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours.
Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet?

On August 20 2013 21:47 Crazometer wrote:
Good point, I'm going to adjourn until morning. (Both irl and in game)

On August 20 2013 21:52 Koshi wrote:
Shouldn't we help the town cop/doc/vigi to help pick their targets -_-

Also, my conspiracies vibes are tingling. I have a strong feeling you rolled scum but not a Shadow.

I want to line up these quotes because I think it's important. This is really is really odd reaction to me. Crazy is apparently new but picks up the "Let's not post at night time and paint targets on ourselves" BS that WoS advocated. Here's why I think it's scum mentality:
1. Bland +1 without bothering to read even 5 minutes after for a clear and obvious counterpoint
2. He doesn't come in with the "don't post at night" mentality but instantly buys it.
These things don't add up to me for good reason. The points Koshi brings up are automatic counterpoints in my mind; if I'm town, then I want to be able to find other town and tell the healer to heal me instead of scum; I want to tell the Vig not to shoot me and I want to tell the cop to find scum somewhere else. But having not come in with the silent night mentality some places/people advocate, he gets instantly swayed by a weak point on self preservation. That reads really, really off to me as newbie town who isn't likely going to be shot regardless. That's just a really weird mentality to take instantly from a town perspective. Talk and shit. Night Night time for me.

I'll be on more tomorrow afternoon and thursday afternoon. I'll post more then. If I die, look into FT and Rayn. Rayn is only town based on activity to me and his ultra tunneling and lack of desire and will to look around really rub me wrong.

@Rainbows. I want to chat with you some later if we're both on at some point so hmu.



So I really dont like this post. First he soft attacks rayne for something that is not true. Rayne wasnt only focusing on WoS, he had 3 scumreads at this point. Yes most of his attention was on WoS but not all.

Second he goes after craz for what I thought was a non serious post just saying he was going to sleep.

The whole koshi thing I dont understand.

PS I am feeling like shit, have taken more pain meds than Im supposed to and a little messed up.

Soft defends crazo while trying to make geript look scummy for accusing him.

On August 22 2013 19:32 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
the Snowman his games:

Mexican Standoff mafia - Town. Full of 1 liners and an I don't give a fuck attitude.

Boardwalk empire mafia - Town This is pro-town posting and I don't see the Snowman be so extreme like he is in this game. At the end he says he was happy with his game, so I don't see why he decided to be a total nutcase this game.

Newbie Mini Mafia - Town cop Again superb play.

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXV - Town The link brings you to the second page of his filter. Look at the first post there. Then look at the Snowman his filter this game.
___________________________________________________________________________

After filterdiving the Snowman I am sad. The guy can play superb mafia and decided to play really shitty this game. I can almost not believe that now that he rolled scum for the first time he would play like this. But why is he playing so bad?

##unvote
##vote: The Snowman


Pick your shit up dude. Pick it up or scumclaim.



This is terrible you just finish saying he most likely wouldnt play his first scum game this way. I am leaning scum on him but still bad reason for a vote.

Appears to just be trying to discredit Koshi while still agreeing with his conclusion. If you believe sn0 is a mislynch (which is the way I'm leaning), this looks really sketchy. It's something to point at after sn0 flips and say, "Look at when I called him out for his scummy reasoning!" Onegu hasn't even given reasons of his own for finding sn0 scummy at this point.

On August 23 2013 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im here just been feeling really shitty, anyways I will consolidate my case for you kush I still want answers.

##UNVOTE

Going over everything now

Unvotes his main scumread while clearly stating that he still thinks he's scummy.

On August 23 2013 14:07 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 13:46 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im here just been feeling really shitty, anyways I will consolidate my case for you kush I still want answers.

##UNVOTE

Going over everything now

Our two lynches for today are Sno_man and WoS. Ideally, we should consolidate on one so that we can prevent scum from vote-switching to save their ally right before the deadline.

Two questions for you:
Which one do you think is more scummy?
Why?



I am ok with both, I agree with rayne they are scum together but for now I prefer sno. Will go over both filters for now for make sure. Sno looks worse at this point with his cases and votes, added to his n0 play.

##VOTE:sn0_man

He's fine with lynching both, and places his vote on the one he hasn't mentioned other than to tell Koshi that he agrees sn0's scum. Says he'll go over their filters, allowing him to switch if needed.

On August 24 2013 14:57 Onegu wrote:
So Im in the hospital now so this will be brief, I should be out tomorrow but not sure.

So the two biggest things that stuck out to me. Im not really up for a yamato lynch. Have to go over his filter again but why wouldnt we lynch the other scummy person in sn0?

Second we need to take a closer look at firmtofu there are a few reasons for this.
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 03:37 FirmTofu wrote:
My conclusion is that we should ignore the parity check and proceed with the game like it never happened. Let's get back to scumhunting instead of wasting our time with this nonsense.


This post is a big reason, why would you ever ignore a red check? If we just ignore it there will always talk about it, or it will come back, makeing a even bigger waste of time. He should be vig shot or lynched otherwise town atmosphre will be completely destroyed. My scum games I am very active vayne made a post about its so much easier to play when you know everything. Firm knows this.

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 13:51 Crazometer wrote:
I agree with the sentiment that Rayns parity check is inconclusive however I wouldn't go as far as tofu suggested and discard it completely. Perhaps the other cop, should they exist, will be able to work some magic for us tonight to figure that all out. I'm curious as to what other people think the chances of the SAM claim being accurate are? I'll look through his filter now and try to produce a number.

Otherwise, sn0 and vayne are probably the most suspicious to me. The pointed out sn0 attitude flip (against other threads) just doesn't feel right, he seems to bounce around from high to low spirited too much as well. Something about Vayne doesn't smell right either so I'll look through his filter and see if anything pops up but I'll probably get what I search for.


I like this post alot makes me feel better about crazy.

Anyway my pain meds are kicking in. So Im out for now.



Doesn't want to lynch yamato -> we should lynch sn0 even though they're both scummy

Also, we should look at FT because he doesn't think we should give the "same" check too much weight. I agree with FT here, since scum (likely) had more control over the situation than town did. Onegu says he should be killed in some way or town atmosphere will be completely destroyed (which is a strange thing to say because I'm pretty sure we kinda broke that ourselves). He doesn't even say that FT is scum, just that the atmosphere will suffer. The "case" he presents isn't "why FT is scummy and should be lynched", it's just "Why FT should be lynched".

And again defends crazo, not stating a reason.

On August 24 2013 15:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote:
Onegu, the "red check" isn't a red check. It's a "same check". When we have no idea about either Rayn or Koshi's alignment, it is presumptuous to assume that either of them are scum. The only correct course of action is to request a vig shot on one of them so we can determine the alignment of the other. I have already asked for this. The fact that you are unable to reason through this is deeply troubling.

Furthermore, what exactly in that post made "you feel better about Crazy"? Please explain, because there is nothing redeeming about Crazy's post.


Right so you think town would claim SAM? So unless you think town would claim SAM its the exact same as a red check. And crazy post I liked because it called your post out, gave his thoughts which I thought townie, and while I want him to scum hunt and follow up on that post it made me feel townie from him.

He liked crazo's post for calling FT out, which doesn't indicate alignment. Then gives himself an out in the future, saying that he wants him to actually do townie things, but until then this non-alignment-indicative statement will suffice.

Aside from his mentions of crazo, it's hard for me to outright explain Onegu's scumminess other than to say that most of his actions appear to come from a scum mindset. He agrees with thread sentiment, while always leaving himself a way out. He appeared pretty unconcerned with who, out of sn0 and WoS, would be lynched. Some things, like setting Koshi up to look suspicious in the event of a sn0 lynch, can't be confirmed until Onegu or sn0 actually flip, but given how I feel about Onegu, sn0, and Koshi, it is convincing for me.

And ultimately, while I believe both Onegu and yamato could be scum, I'm more convinced that Onegu is, and Onegu's flip will shed more light on yamato than I believe yamato's will shed on Onegu.

##Vote: Onegu
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2013 22:00 GMT
#2113
On August 26 2013 02:19 Rainbows wrote:
I only read to the part of both dudes claiming, what the fuck.

Fakeclaims? If Rayn is town he is seriously fucking town over this game. That did NOTHING to gain town any momentum. We should lynch Yamato, and then we should lynch Onegu.

##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato

When I look through your filter, I never find a reason why you think I'm scum. All you say in your vote post is some stupid list and then say you'll sheep the wagon on me.

Wtf?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2013 22:06 GMT
#2114
Fuba, what do you make of Rainbows?
Writer@WriterYamato
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2013 22:07 GMT
#2115
thank you for doing what I'm incapable of fuba, I'm down for that. I believe your claim so I'm going with what I believe to be the confirmed town here.

##unvote

##vote:onegu

I will be back later tonight to see if anything interesting occurs before deadline
I come in for the scraps
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#2116
He's been kind of under my radar since I dropped my vote on him earlier. Something that stuck out to me was that he so quickly accepted my vig claim when it felt like he spent most of the game tunneling me. Lemme check out his filter.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 25 2013 22:59 GMT
#2117
No successful save notifications are given to doctors or their targets.

Vote count when I reach work.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
August 25 2013 23:05 GMT
#2118
VOTE COUNT
Yamato77: (2) Raynepelikoneet, Koshi, Rainbows, VayneAuthority, Johnnywup, Kushm4sta, Rainbows
Sn0_Man: (1) FirmTofu
Onegu: (4) Koshi, Rainbows, mkfuba07, VayneAuthority
Raynepelikoneet: (0) Rainbows
Rainbows: (1) Raynepelikoneet

Currently, ONEGU is set to be lynched! Voting is mandatory, you have ~12 hours to vote
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 25 2013 23:09 GMT
#2119
Rainbows
I was finding him townier after I dropped my case on him and he started kind of leading town towards consolidation of a lynch. However, when you get to the end of his filter for that day you see these two quotes:
On August 23 2013 13:18 Rainbows wrote:
God be damned if we're going to last minute wagon on yamato/oats/craze or some shit, Kush. Because that is NOT happening.

On August 23 2013 13:54 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 13:49 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:48 Rainbows wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:46 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im here just been feeling really shitty, anyways I will consolidate my case for you kush I still want answers.

##UNVOTE

Going over everything now

Our two lynches for today are Sno_man and WoS. Ideally, we should consolidate on one so that we can prevent scum from vote-switching to save their ally right before the deadline.

Two questions for you:
Which one do you think is more scummy?
Why?


The problem I have here is that you are omitting Fuba. WHY? Everyone is omitting the Fuba.

He has like one vote on him, bro. That vote is you. We don't want to give scum too many options this late into day.


Yeah, let's lynch the people scum are already voting for.

Because that's how you win games.

I'm placing my Fuba vote final. If you guys want to kill WoS/Sn0 have fun. I'm saying they smell like mislynches, Sn0 a bit less than WoS but whatever.

##Vote: MkFuba07


Going through his filter, this is pretty damn strange... He says to consolidate, he says we're not going to try a last-minute wagon on someone, and then leaves his vote on me at the end of the day.

He never seems to actually respond to anything I've said (aside from my case on him earlier). I respond to him, and he ignores and keeps tunneling.

Despite this, he very quickly accepts my claim. Kush had some valid, though incorrect, theories about how I could have been fakeclaiming/know about an SK as scum. I feel they're best discredited by things in my filter. If someone believed as strongly as Rainbows appeared to that I was scum, despite everything I'd already said, then I find it strange that that person would drop that scumread so easily without going through my filter (which I have no reason to believe Rainbows has read since his initial case on me). It makes more sense for someone to drop that case, after tunneling so hard, if he knows that I'm telling the truth, though.

And as of his most recent posting, it's clear that he hasn't even been reading the thread. Then his vote jumped around between three different people in 20 minutes. Rayn->Yamato->Onegu. I'm not sure what can be gained from thinking about who he voted for (so much wifom), but based on the fact that he hasn't been reading and doesn't seem to care about who's lynched, I'd add him to the scum list.

I think something made me think he's not likely to be scum with yamato, but I didn't note it down at the time and can't go through the filter again atm. Useless speculation anyway, until one of them flips.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#2120
On August 24 2013 23:51 Rainbows wrote:
VayneAuthority
johnnywup <---- Pandas?
Sn0_Man <---- Hodor?
mkfuba07
FirmTofu <--- maybe mafia, if mafia with craze/mkfuba then decently good at distancing.
Onegu
Rainbows
kushm4sta
Koshi
raynpelikoneet <--- lol
yamato77

Yeah I like this list, a lot. I'd prefer Mkfuba but I guess I sheep for now.

##Vote: Yamato77

The towns on this list are pretty accurate imo. If we can add the Lion King to town now, I don't know if scum is going to confirm 3 townies. Makes it hard for them to lynch one of them.

Out of the townies I like VA the least. I can see him flip red.

I would not be surprised to see the scumteam be Onegu, Rainbows and VA. So if we decide to lynch Rainbows and he flips red, I would seriously look at VA next.

On the other hand I could see Onegu, rain, FT be a scumteam.

Or still the obvious Onegu, Yamato, The Snowman.


Many possibilities left but I think Johnny is town.
I had a good night of sleep.
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