Persona 4 Mini Mafia - Page 108

On August 25 2013 22:45 Koshi wrote:

WoS was on him + see Kush cases. (Not being mentioned by Crazo is interesting.)

Also Onegu tried to go for a Kush lynch for policy? While Kush was doing wayyyyyyyyyyy better than in GoT and there Onegu wasn't on Kush but fully on me.

On August 26 2013 07:00 mkfuba07 wrote:
Alright, this is why I believe we should lynch Onegu instead of yamato today.


Soft defends crazo while trying to make geript look scummy for accusing him.


Appears to just be trying to discredit Koshi while still agreeing with his conclusion. If you believe sn0 is a mislynch (which is the way I'm leaning), this looks really sketchy. It's something to point at after sn0 flips and say, "Look at when I called him out for his scummy reasoning!" Onegu hasn't even given reasons of his own for finding sn0 scummy at this point.


Unvotes his main scumread while clearly stating that he still thinks he's scummy.


He's fine with lynching both, and places his vote on the one he hasn't mentioned other than to tell Koshi that he agrees sn0's scum. Says he'll go over their filters, allowing him to switch if needed.


Doesn't want to lynch yamato -> we should lynch sn0 even though they're both scummy

Also, we should look at FT because he doesn't think we should give the "same" check too much weight. I agree with FT here, since scum (likely) had more control over the situation than town did. Onegu says he should be killed in some way or town atmosphere will be completely destroyed (which is a strange thing to say because I'm pretty sure we kinda broke that ourselves). He doesn't even say that FT is scum, just that the atmosphere will suffer. The "case" he presents isn't "why FT is scummy and should be lynched", it's just "Why FT should be lynched".

And again defends crazo, not stating a reason.


He liked crazo's post for calling FT out, which doesn't indicate alignment. Then gives himself an out in the future, saying that he wants him to actually do townie things, but until then this non-alignment-indicative statement will suffice.

Aside from his mentions of crazo, it's hard for me to outright explain Onegu's scumminess other than to say that most of his actions appear to come from a scum mindset. He agrees with thread sentiment, while always leaving himself a way out. He appeared pretty unconcerned with who, out of sn0 and WoS, would be lynched. Some things, like setting Koshi up to look suspicious in the event of a sn0 lynch, can't be confirmed until Onegu or sn0 actually flip, but given how I feel about Onegu, sn0, and Koshi, it is convincing for me.

And ultimately, while I believe both Onegu and yamato could be scum, I'm more convinced that Onegu is, and Onegu's flip will shed more light on yamato than I believe yamato's will shed on Onegu.

##Vote: Onegu

On August 22 2013 05:05 FirmTofu wrote:
I still think scum is betting that we don't reread dead player filters. I know I did in Titanic. Sno is pretty scummy independently of the NK anyway. I can't say the same for Rainbows.

I would say the WIFOM still favors sn0 being scum over town.

There are two possible scenarios:
1) If the scum team has a veteran leader, then DP may have been killed for his reputation.
2) If the scum team has no veterans, DP has to have been killed for his reads.

I don't think you can say DP was looking extremely pro-town on N0. I really don't see players who are unfamiliar with his reputation killing him unless he was doing something right and they wanted to silence him.

Veterans(People who are familiar with DP's repuatation):
rayn
Oats?
geript?
Vayne?
yamato77?
WaveofShadow?

Is there anyone else?

Therefore, if you believe one or more of these people are scum, then DP may have been killed for his reputation instead of his reads.

Personally, geript and WoS are the scummiest on that list for me. geript due to meta and WoS for a weak defense/general apathy. I still find sn0 independently more scummy than the combined scumminess of geript and WoS.

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Based on your initial beliefs, you should be able to run through this logic and find out who exactly you should be voting. If you are hesitant to lynch any of the veterans, sn0 is your best bet.

On August 22 2013 05:12 FirmTofu wrote:

Everytime I make a case, everyone just skims over it and nothing comes of it. I'm trying a new approach this time. asses your current base beliefs and then reach a logical conclusion while incorporating the NK.

Let me know if you have trouble following the logic or if there are any holes in it.

On August 23 2013 04:47 FirmTofu wrote:

My intention was not really to paint Sno_man as scummy. I was literally posting stuff that I was thinking. As town, I like to be as transparent as possible. If I'm thinking something, I usually post it.

I understand you think my theory is unlikely, but can you explain how:
FirmTofu posts an unlikely theory=> FirmTofu is scum
?

On August 23 2013 16:12 FirmTofu wrote:
In the interest of consolidation, I'm going to vote WoS.
##vote: waveofshadow