Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2

On August 31 2013 17:20 AxleGreaser wrote:
@WOS Untunnelling

##unvote WOS
(flips coin)
##vote MrZentor

On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:

What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes?

Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway?

And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will?

On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything.

On September 02 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MrZentor explain to us how i did "my best" to save geript?

On September 02 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:


Erm. No it wouldn't. Unless you're saying all 7 of those names are town if geript flips town....

Saying you're extremely suspicious of 7 people is completely useless, it puts no pressure on anyone and it looks like you're just throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks. Please narrow that list down for me, 2/3 names would be cool.

On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet??????

On September 02 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I dunno, from the bolded part i drew the conclusion that the list you gave were people who were doing their best as you find them suspicious.

If that's not what you mean, what do you mean with the bolded statement?

On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
EBWOP.
Mr Z has less people to look at to find scum and he can use the main reason of trying to push the lynch to another person other than geript to push these dudes.

On September 02 2013 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
MrZentor, you seemed to suggest that you have some sort of lynch rigging ability. Do you suspect that geript has that mafia equivalent of your role? A theme that might be present this game is town/mafia role variants, perhaps similar to hassy/evil twin and one other that I think I noticed.

The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr"

Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum.

How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious.

Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla"

This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it?
If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious??

Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game.
His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game.
Therefore Zentor is scum.

On September 02 2013 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:


It's not that you're not clear, it's that you're inconsistent. Big difference.
If you were town and you had a bunch of townreads in that list of 7 you would not call all 7 extremely suspicious.
Anyway, no need to talk to you anymore, time to die scum.

On September 02 2013 05:17 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm pretty sure at this point it is.
If Geript was town he would have immediately tried to make up for his failure to lynch 'scum BH.'

Zentor's defense does make a certain amount of sense but yeah like Fuba said, if scum were to jump on somebody for suspicious voting activity on D1 I really thought I'd be primary target. Look at Axlegreaser hounding me, for example. Why is 'abstaining' from the vote more acceptable?

On September 02 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:

Wait hold on a sec.
Why would any mafia bother voting for anyone else at all if they knew Geript was going to just change everybody's vote to BH?
What did mafia have to lose at all?

On September 02 2013 05:26 WaveofShadow wrote:

No.
It doesn't make any sense.
That ability is massive and there is no way Geript would just toss that out there after scum had thrown their votes down and fuck his team over.

On September 02 2013 05:44 WaveofShadow wrote:

People were voting Geript because HE CLAIMED UNLYNCHABLE AND DREW EVERYONE TO VOTE FOR HIM.

On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?

On September 02 2013 06:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oh there's that one line at the end of that post that gives him a null read....
You don't follow his logic but he's not being malicious?

He called seven people extremely suspicious. You don't think that throwing dirt everywhere isn't scum indicative?

On September 02 2013 04:27 Clarity_nl wrote:


The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr"



Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum.

How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious.
stronganbig has it right. It seems like you haven't even read the game and you just went off the votecount to paint a wide array of people scummy.

Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla"
But then there's this:


This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it?
If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious??

I try to make him clarify:


Zentor is saying everybody knows which of the people on that list are likely town.
Then WHY DID YOU CALL EVERYONE ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS.

Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game.
His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game.
Therefore Zentor is scum.

On September 02 2013 09:55 AxleGreaser wrote:



Coool now post stuff where you think about the game so other people can discern your alignment.

On September 02 2013 09:59 Clarity_nl wrote:


I'm no confident anymore that it is a scumslip. But notice how I brush past it in my case too.
I guess it's possible for you to say it like that as town, although it feels off.

Everything else makes you scum though. You should put some reads in the thread now

On September 02 2013 10:06 Cephiro wrote:
Well, aside from two townies dying, some other things went pretty nicely tonight. Btw, don't lynch Zentor today. I have my reasons to believe he is town.

On September 03 2013 01:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


Why should I over Alakunreadable?

I've played with town Oats and mafia Oats before. Problem is, as both alignment he seems to give more fucks about the game.

Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on.

On September 03 2013 01:55 Clarity_nl wrote:


PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR TOWNREAD ON ALAKASLAM THEN PLEASE. WHY IS THIS LIKE PULLING TEETH, FUCK

On September 03 2013 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's make debears explode himself and another scum? :;D

On September 03 2013 04:27 Onegu wrote:
Im going to vote felkyr for now the way the night actions happened he knew something was going to happen because of Black mesa qt and messed with the player list.

##VOTE: FELKYR

On September 09 2013 03:31 Cephiro wrote:
Rayn could be of any alignment. I have seen no actions from him so far that would confirm him to one way or another.

@Zentor: To ensure the kill. You've done close to nothing for town this game. If I had started asking you before, you could have come up with all kinds of schenanigans to try and explain yourself, in the worst case effectively wasting most of the time we've got available to decide on a lynch. This way we'll see what you flip and can concentrate on someone else that seems scummy for the lynch.

Your reactions to my actions are saying quite a bit though. You're not telling us anything. If I was going to die in 24 hours with no way of communicating after, I'd share every single piece of information I'd have. You've done nothing of the kind, and you're just questioning my action.

Questioning my actions won't change what happened, and it's pointless to go on about it. If you're town, tell us what you've got, and if you're scum you can just leave instead of wasting our time.

On September 08 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote:
I don't know what you want me to do with this item..

And I accidentally roleblocked myself. ._.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 09 2013 04:06 Clarity_nl wrote:


What happened to finding out rolenames that DONT exist, like you were describing in closed casket?
You also said "accidentally roleblocked myself" and now you're saying it's random?

So much inconsistency.

On September 09 2013 04:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
What is the opposite of becoming a veteran, dying?

On September 10 2013 08:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


I find it weird that you aren't voting Hiro considering he hammered you.

On September 10 2013 08:50 Clarity_nl wrote:


??????

You're not even reading the thread, if you are town I'll be very fucking sad.
I'd argue hiro was more likely to get lynched than axle.

Anyway, you're not going to flip town. You haven't done shit since you got crushed, when a townie would be scrambling to figure out the game before they die.

On September 08 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote:
I don't know what you want me to do with this item..

And I accidentally roleblocked myself. ._.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 10 2013 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So if everyone gets roleblocked tonight Zentor has effectively claimed scum.