Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2

On August 30 2013 09:19 Blazinghand wrote:


I didn't feel so bad about falling for this one....



but man I felt like a dope when I fell for this one.

On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.

On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!

On August 30 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:

Do you dislike my reasoning? I never claimed to be 1000% sure, but I think my reasoning is pretty sound. :/

On August 30 2013 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:

BULLSHIT YOU CONFIRMED HIM AS TOWN BY MODKILLING HIS HYDRA PARTNER FOR NOT USING A USELESS HYDRA THREAD THAT THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE USED ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAD A SCUM QT BH

YOU MODCONFIRMED SCUM AS TOWN BH GET OVER IT

On August 30 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:

How dare thee

To affront The Blazinghand is fallacious

On August 30 2013 10:00 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm pretty sure VE is kidding

On August 30 2013 10:05 geript wrote:
Here's my case:
Slam trolling all wrong. Scum.

Where is my prize?

On August 30 2013 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

Behoove is a fun word.
I already stated pregame I'm just going to be ignoring Slam because it's not worth the headache.

There is defs a lot of butthurt spilling over into this game though.
See: Cora's vote

On August 31 2013 00:24 Felkyr wrote:
Hi guys. Sorry about me being late and acting as a 'lurker'. I've caught up with the thread now.

What I would like to elaborate on is the Null Talisman. It's the first item we've seen and I think it might be potentially very dangerous (or good of course). Now that Koshi has revealed it, it will surely come into play fast.

Some thoughts:
1) Why did Koshi reveal it? It might be that it blocks his role in some way. Of course, he could just have given it away then anonymously. But now it makes him appear town?
2) Can we trust Clarity to give him the item? I would be very careful with that.
3) On the other hand, now it is revealed, we can be quite sure scum will be after it. If there is about 6 scum (?), there might be a thief and someone who can use it in their advantage.
4) If scum would want to steal the item, how many nights would it take for them to actually use it? One night to steal, one night to give to someone who can use it, one night to actually use it. That's a long time.
5) Has someone a better idea on how the item exchange works? When Koshi gives the item away and it gets stolen on the same night, what happens first? That which is PMed first?

On another note, I don't understand Slam at all. But I have the feeling he says important things in his posts.

On August 30 2013 15:25 Risen wrote:
I'm so confused by this game.

On August 30 2013 15:39 Risen wrote:


That's a little harsh considering the game has very recently started. Seems to me like you're trying to find something to appear active. You should try and tone it back a little, just makes you look like you're puffing up your post count.

On August 30 2013 15:39 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: In hindsight, that's probably considered a filler post as well.

On August 31 2013 02:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Cheesecake enters and the thread stops cold?

On August 31 2013 02:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Could you explain why? (I'll pick the I'm bad option)

On August 31 2013 00:24 Felkyr wrote:
Hi guys. Sorry about me being late and acting as a 'lurker'. I've caught up with the thread now.

What I would like to elaborate on is the Null Talisman. It's the first item we've seen and I think it might be potentially very dangerous (or good of course). Now that Koshi has revealed it, it will surely come into play fast.

Some thoughts:
1) Why did Koshi reveal it? It might be that it blocks his role in some way. Of course, he could just have given it away then anonymously. But now it makes him appear town?
2) Can we trust Clarity to give him the item? I would be very careful with that.
3) On the other hand, now it is revealed, we can be quite sure scum will be after it. If there is about 6 scum (?), there might be a thief and someone who can use it in their advantage.
4) If scum would want to steal the item, how many nights would it take for them to actually use it? One night to steal, one night to give to someone who can use it, one night to actually use it. That's a long time.
5) Has someone a better idea on how the item exchange works? When Koshi gives the item away and it gets stolen on the same night, what happens first? That which is PMed first?

On another note, I don't understand Slam at all. But I have the feeling he says important things in his posts.

On August 31 2013 02:38 ObviousOne wrote:

I'm just getting my mind through the journey of Vayne probably town.

What you think of VE? I'm notoriously bad at reading him, give me your two cents.

On August 31 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea, so if town wants to shoot me go for it that seems fine. Maybe it's actually an okay claim since I forgot that we can just combine town roles.

I have a feeling some one is going to roleblock me or some shit though so idk

also to your question rayn, just look at cheesecake's recent post which is exactly how I felt. His opening post has inherent guilt and discusses things that are not actually important. illusory participation.

On August 31 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea, so if town wants to shoot me go for it that seems fine. Maybe it's actually an okay claim since I forgot that we can just combine town roles.

I have a feeling some one is going to roleblock me or some shit though so idk

also to your question rayn, just look at cheesecake's recent post which is exactly how I felt. His opening post has inherent guilt and discusses things that are not actually important. illusory participation.

On August 31 2013 00:36 ObviousOne wrote:
Vayne 3P? Not like town self, not like scum self. Dandel town, get off his nuts. He'd be like "lel you got me" as soon as people started eying him if he was scum. Also this bullshit about his role changing based on being a replacement is hilarious and anyone encouraging that conversation needs their head checked.

@WoS - you seem to be wasting your vote; sometimes the best weapon you can have is patience. Care to explain the enormous anger at people not being here for the first 12 hours of the game? You also have experience playing scum with Vayne, do you think he's on his own team? Why specifically vote Shiao-Pi?

P.S. @Alakaslam - damn, dude, I can BARELY understand you. Please try to clean it up a bit and cut it out with the fucking youtube videos, it makes safari mobile lag. THX

On August 31 2013 02:49 Clarity_nl wrote:


You can't possibly think scum has a role that if they're shot they get 2 extra kp? I mean, I know greymist is insane but c'mon.
The options are he's lying scum, lying 3p or town. I guess maybe lying town is possible to stay alive but truthful scum is not an option.

As for Felkyr. Yeah that opening post >.< BUT didn't he say this was his first game? Especially in a heavily themed game I can understand being distracted by shiny jewelery.

On August 31 2013 02:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Have you played with Felkyr before? because if you had you'd be 100% ok with this post

On August 31 2013 02:59 ObviousOne wrote:

:O

On August 31 2013 03:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea what BH is leading into, but felkyr posts the generic scum post. Apologizes for being a lurker, talks about setup which has no bearing on who he wants to lynch and does not post anything about wanting to lynch someone. Its like he was looking for things to discuss and, HEY I SEE SETUP SPECULATION. He posts that way after koshi claimed it too.
##vote felkyr

On August 31 2013 03:07 geript wrote:
BH. You are so like 24 hours ago. Lynch slam.

On August 31 2013 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote:


Hulk Smash.
Just saying it's his first game and I can understand how a heavily themed game like this might lead him astray. His absence is quite bad however.

I'm warming myself up to an oats lynch but... he's active and stuff...
I honestly think most of the scumteam still hasn't shown up or done much.

Someone in the group of oats/Felkyr/WoS/kita is probably scum, rest are being scared bastards because the thread's been feeling like a townfest so far.

Oh I've kinda forgotten about Risen. He whines about a filler post, then makes a filler post, then says how he just made a filler post. Whatsup with that?

On August 31 2013 03:13 ObviousOne wrote:

SNB, wants to lynch half of the game today:

Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game.

On August 31 2013 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dandel was the easiest fucking target in the thread for not doing anything very obviously and that his meta matches with his play at that time. COME ON...

On August 31 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have an extremely strong town read on Dandel. Like Iamp IC read.

Kita's policy lynch is wrong because he said he wanted to policy lynch because Dandel didnt read his role pm when it was obvious it was a joke and dandel clearly read it after that post.

I dont see that the interaction with WoS as being alignment indicative for either of them.....

On August 31 2013 05:58 Felkyr wrote:


I don't feel like you are contributing to this game.

VE, you probably have a point, I am willing to vote geript, it seems more people are acknowledging what you say. As for the BM thing. I first thought that you would be the second townie to claim. Your earlier post seemed to imply you might know more of BM. When Stutters claimed instead I was a little surprised. But I understand it could have been pure
conjecture from your part. I mean, at the time I agreed with your point.

On August 31 2013 06:10 Felkyr wrote:
Onegu claimed town BM. So I had the feeling that VE might claim town BM as well (if there would be another claim), for me he was the best candidate at the moment. But yes, from his post he did not look like particular scum to me, so I suppose he was more townie in my mind.

On August 31 2013 06:14 mkfuba07 wrote:
hihi~

Finally caught up in the thread. Need to filter people now.


Is CC always this jumpy on possible scumslips?

On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:

To me it seemed natural that he could have just thought me town and that's why he said the second townie to claim. It didn't feel like he slipped that he actually knew I was town which is what I think you're getting at - but obviously I'm biased because I know that I am, in fact, town.

On August 31 2013 04:04 Risen wrote:
How does Cheesecake know so much?

On August 31 2013 04:10 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Just standard pressuring. Read his filter alone without the posts around it.

On August 31 2013 04:13 Risen wrote:
Well that's shady Onegu. So there's a secret QT some people have access to but scum potentially has access to as well?

Onegu did you post your own name in secret QT because you had already been posting in scum QT and just forgot to change accounts? (That's thin, but I think it's a real question)

On August 31 2013 12:10 WaveofShadow wrote:

iueawfvbewagfvbawieuvakt
I'm shaking my fist at you as we speak.

WHY
GIVE ME SOMETHING

On August 31 2013 17:52 Clarity_nl wrote:


Because with a claim like that, if he's scum, that's probably the "good" outcome which means scum must have some protective roles.
Who do you want to lynch, anyway? Risen? Did you see how he played in GoT?

On September 01 2013 06:48 WaveofShadow wrote:

Not you, Geript.

On September 01 2013 06:52 geript wrote:

Get your fithly hands away from my wubby bumpkins.

On September 01 2013 09:09 debears wrote:
Why did BH get lynched and not geript?

On September 02 2013 06:27 Dandel Ion wrote:

lately I transitioned into claiming SK to make people think it's lylo when it's actually not

On September 02 2013 09:54 debears wrote:
I am actually debating using my power and possibly suicide

jk though. I really want to though just to be epic

On September 02 2013 10:43 cakepie wrote:
Guys, side note, the player list order has been modified.

+ Show Spoiler [changelist] +

How much of this are you responsible for, Onegu? My best guess is you only moved yourself?

Also, Hiro seems to have known in advance that something was going to happen around Felkyr.

That's in addition to being somehow convinced beforehand that BH was going to die D1

What's your deal, Hiro?

##Vote: HiroPro

viva BH, etc


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you might want to put that in the vote thread

On September 02 2013 12:06 Felkyr wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Would it be this?



It's the only thing I found between a lot of rubble. It's already late and I'm sorry if there is anything else. I find this very weak... AG made very clear that he thought very deeply about the effect of his power. For me, this is a very bad reason to tell him not to use his power. Or you didn't read, or you didn't care.



You said this... I don't see anything else where YOU form an opinion of geript's alignment. What is your opinion? You have to be kidding, right?

And finally:



I suppose you don't want to explain this to me? I'm new and don't know all this metagame stuff.

On September 02 2013 12:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


Felkyr, we should have a discussion. Firstly, I suggest just ignoring whatever stuff you don't understand when it comes to that. Confusing brown stuff is an intricate troll that really isn't worth the time to delve into.

Secondly, I see you have become more active which is good if you are town. I wanted (and still do) want to lynch you based on scummy D1 play and a gutread. Tell me: Who is mafia and should be lynched today? Take a hard stance on somebody -- there are a ton of scum out there, so pick me one and tell me why he is scum. If I like your answer, I might not lynch you today with the luxury of the double-lynch.

On September 02 2013 12:48 Felkyr wrote:
Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me.

##Vote: HirePro

On September 02 2013 12:55 austinmcc wrote:
gg dead bros.

VE died and flipped black but no role. This is portant. Could everybody in Black Mesa QT please post, and people report back to thread if any pseudonyms don't show up? Gives us a clue of someone who was unknown and in BM, and maybe indicated that BM don't flip with roles? Will do what I can to set aside paranoia concerning that for now, but if VE was the guy who claimed 3P in BM chat, that seems kinda nice.

If everyone in BM shows up, we know there's some other faction, but if someone specific is missing, we maybe know that VE was BM and maybe BM don't flip (could be someone in BM just not posting to make it seem like they're VE, which would be mean).

Still minorly interested in geript's thought process. I'll read hiro and some other folks when I'm more functional. Been scum with scumhiro a couple times, don't know that I have any super insight into him though.

On September 02 2013 13:12 austinmcc wrote:
Last aperture had both red and black mafia factions. Black Mesa is apparently no longer another mafia faction, but I'd like to know if we can figure out what it do. Plus, I hear that people not flipping at all ain't bueno. If dude who claimed 3P in BM chat no longer around, makes it more likely VE's no flip is connected to that and he was 3P, not some other faction.

Go read that last game. Black Mesa was a mafia faction that functioned around repositioning people in the player list. We have people who reposition people on the player list in Black Mesa this time around. If we can figure out whether we have multiple mafia factions or just VE as some unknown 3P, is good. Plus you are a dessert.

On September 02 2013 12:48 Felkyr wrote:
Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me.

##Vote: HirePro

On September 02 2013 23:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
You can say a lot about greymist games and how crazy shit is, but despite all of that, when the smoke clears, they are actually fairly balanced. Nothing is so broken that it ruins the game.

Someone who can switch every single vote to a person of their choosing once, okay that's strong. Someone who can do it more than once? That ruins games. Why are we even considering that he can?

debears, make a big play when it's single lynch after you make yourself readable. At the moment I don't have a read on you at all, your role might as well be a scum role and you're currently posturing with a terrible idea.

On September 02 2013 23:58 Clarity_nl wrote:


You've never seen scum fake martyr? What's with the rash conclusion? Other than the martyr what has he done?

On September 03 2013 00:02 Clarity_nl wrote:


It's such a terrible idea, why would anyone agree with it? debears is a better player than that.

On September 03 2013 01:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I think Mr. Z is a bad lynch for today. I also don't like the Hiro lynch despite the trollyness.

Double lynch useless dudes. Alakaslam / Risen / Shaio / Felkyr pick two.

On September 03 2013 01:04 MrZentor wrote:
Actually, I would really like to kill oats..

On September 03 2013 01:13 AxleGreaser wrote:


I am getting pretty tired but as i remember things
because you have not and neither has anyone else on Alak explained why he did that as scum.

Note my previous estimates of Alaks capabilities had to be lowered somewhat to get any possibility that as scum or town he would simply shuffle the items in a fit of pique because a town BH got lynched.

But I haven't seen a suggestion I could understand how he or his scum team would have thought his actions were wise as a scum play.

Not sold on Alak being a good lynch at all.

On September 03 2013 01:13 MrZentor wrote:


I just don't see any motive for Alakaslam to say that he was the one who shuffled the items as mafia.
It just seems more like a thing a stupid townie would do.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 03 2013 01:16 Onegu wrote:
Post from Black Mesa

Our claimed third party would like me to pass along the message that

I've got following role on Shiao: He is Kanti, Lord of the Black Flames. 

Also there is a green check on shiao pi.

On September 03 2013 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote:


It's not stupid at all, from what I understood two town members were going to receive very powerful items in conjunction with their roles and he stopped that. For some one who is a policy lynch at best, that's about the most useful he could be to his team ever.

On September 03 2013 01:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't think thats stupid either, remember that he was UP FOR LYNCH VERY SOON guys. The only reason people are considering him not scum is "too stupid to be scum" and it's working perfectly. Claiming it in thread is a very town thing to do so it's casting doubt.

On September 03 2013 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote:

Can I answer that?

On September 03 2013 01:55 MrZentor wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

It's because alakasam looks pretty townie.

Basically, almost everybody looks scummy when compared to him because of that.

On September 01 2013 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote

I like his recent posting.

And geript WILL FLIP TOWN GUYS. MARK MY WORDS. AND SOMEONE WILL DIE BECAUSE OF IT. Lynch Yamato cause hes been fucking useless and not made anyone angry. He wants to lynch Dandel. lulno. And geript. lultown.

##vote yamato

On September 03 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
why arent we fucking voting for confirmed scum?
##vote geript

On September 03 2013 02:33 kitaman27 wrote:


Can you use the back/forward button on your browser?

On September 01 2013 00:32 cakepie wrote:
ack, dozed off
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+ Show Spoiler +

I ain't exactly got spidey senses screaming to me that he is confirmed scum. My read on him (newbie null) sits precariously and could swing to scummy in a real jiffy if, say, he responds poorly or incorrectly under pressure.

On September 03 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr.Cheesecake how is what you just said about Oats not just what he does as town?

On September 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:


opinion on hiro just because he's been quite a discussion point.
Then if you wanna find scum instead, read randombum and debears. Kita also isn't a bad one to read.

On September 03 2013 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:

oh just saw this.

Doesnt make sense as scum, does it? Having hard stances and 180s.
Huh. I guess you're wrong.

On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:

Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.

On September 03 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:

BH is a really bad target for a vig.

Its a complete scumtell. Makes 0 sense for towngeript who knows how good BH is, to fuck around for 2 days and shoot him. It makes sense for scum geript after he got caught for the first day and then just take out the strongest townie anyway.

SEE.

On September 01 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
geript town guys.
Not voterigger, some role that switches all the votes on you to another target.
lol BH again victim of the lynch

On September 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
then we vote BH tmr cause hes a punk.
Night dudes.

On September 03 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
everyone thought he was lying.

Also, once BH flipped, im wrong and I reasses. Do you find anything weird about that?

On September 03 2013 03:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Like I can't actually believe your entire reasoning for wanting Geript dead is because he lynched BH who happened to flip town.

On September 03 2013 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote:

and the fact that he has been absurdly useless and I havent even noticed his posting since the end of day 1.....

On September 03 2013 03:30 Oatsmaster wrote:

BH was lying about what?

On August 31 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol BH bad case, lets lynch BH!!!!!

On September 03 2013 03:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats other than geript and alakaslam who do you think is scum?

On September 03 2013 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote:

voterigger? Its really not that OP though.
Like if you use it, the guy who avoids getting lynched is totally scum.
so like a 1 for 1 in normal circumstances.

On September 03 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still do not know what the case on Oats is? 180's?

On September 03 2013 04:04 Oatsmaster wrote:

How many times do I have to say that I thought that geript was lying, and I wasnt here when geript was here in the thread anyway.. So its not like I can argue with him about his choice.
Come on CC. Dont be bad.

On September 03 2013 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:

But then he did 2 things.

He voterigged.
And he killed BH.

So that switched my read.
Its kinda like a cute kitten suddenly killed my baby pigeon.

DIE KITTEN. DIE.

On September 03 2013 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:

Nah, I look townier as scum than as scum ^^

On September 03 2013 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
So clearly you are scum this game huh

On September 03 2013 04:33 Oatsmaster wrote:

#sickplays

Seriously, lets kill geript.

On September 03 2013 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:


I make this post in honor of VisceraEyes.

VE is no stranger to death. In fact, he has a history of dieing five, ten, or even fifteen times in a single LoL game. But even so, he has always given his life for a better purpose. Sure, that purpose is usually to feed the enemy team, but isn't solving world hunger the most noble of causes?

As teamliquid mafia's most experienced player, it is clear a little bit of each of us lives on through his play. VisceraEyes has managed to adopt prpl's ability to be mislynched, RoL's fits of rage, Coag's all cap tendencies, chenzinu's coherency, and BC's general ineptitude all into a single scum hunting machine. He even may have inherited a bit of Kita's good looks.

All joking aside, VE left us far too early this game. As we gather in this time of mourning, I shall speak for him, for he cannot.

On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote:


Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there.

All the proof you need.

On September 04 2013 05:10 randombum wrote:


Better as where before I had slam/hassy > risen it's not Risen> slam/hassy I'm still not fans of them. Are you purposely missing the point

On September 04 2013 05:19 Onegu wrote:


Because a claimed 3p knows who he is in a qt when there should be no way.

On September 04 2013 05:26 Onegu wrote:


Exactly take out the 3p, if someone knows who hiro is in a qt when there is no way they should be able to what does that mean?

On September 04 2013 08:34 Alakaslam wrote:

This is exactly why I do troll.

FFFFFEEEEEEHHHHHHHHH

On September 04 2013 08:38 Hassybaby wrote:


Hang on, I need to find a straight face...

On September 04 2013 08:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
time to activate the minor other ability I have

##But the future refused to change: Hassybaby

On September 04 2013 08:44 Clarity_nl wrote:


I've only pushed him for like the entire cycle, but I guess you wouldn't know that if you don't read the game.

GUYS KILL THIS FUCKER HES SCUM, LOOK AT HOW HASSY IS BEING, COME ON

On September 04 2013 09:21 MrZentor wrote:
I should have known Alphonse Elric wouldn't die so easily..

On September 05 2013 01:07 ShiaoPi wrote:

posted quite a lot in the qt, both of us. I am having a pretty solid townread on him now.
Discussed reads a bit and agreed that OO, rayn, austin look like pretty good persons to lynch.
We are disagreeing on Risen and kind of torn on Hiro.

Kind of difficult to paraphrase everything in it

On September 05 2013 01:41 Hassybaby wrote:


As a small bit of setup speculation, I'm having difficulty thinking that the scum team would have a power that reveals actions and full role, especially if they were the ones who hid it in the first place

On September 05 2013 01:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


I thought VE's role was hidden by default? VE claimed that, somewhere.

On September 04 2013 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
The missing part of the Role PM Kita posted had to do with my revival - it said I'd be revived a half cycle after I die (whether to lynch or to NK) and that I wouldn't flip if it's the first time I die. I WAS going to keep pretending to be town, but KITA ruined everything. Luckily for town, I'm confirmed not-scum and even more luckily for town, I might just soak up more bullets from scum because I was shot for a reason on N1.

PEdit:
Oh I see. No, with as much information as is in the thread right now, I'm fully backing town. I mean, obviously you guys are going to do what you've gotta do, but my win-con is out there and my play will speak for itself.

On September 05 2013 02:23 Risen wrote:


I guess I just don't understand this tunnel, or how you could continue it after watching the other two attempts at it. Then again, you were the first one to start try and start it up.

On September 05 2013 02:28 Coagulation wrote:


your not my favorite master anymore.

On September 05 2013 02:38 Risen wrote:


And why have I been chosen amongst these "others" that haven't done garb? I've certainly been around more, and I like to think I've contributed a nice amount.

I haven't made giant posts, but I've been here pointing out scummy things. People just haven't really responded to me. You haven't responded to me. You just trumpet that because I don't have X number of posts or something I'm scum.

A policy lynch for d3? Really? I always seem to come back to bad or scum arguments. Why don't you actually scum hunt? Is it because you're scum and can't? Town players build a case or point out scummy things in other people's play.

On September 05 2013 02:38 Koshi wrote:
Mr. Cheesecake.

So let's say that everybody is town here. Who will die tonight?
Just asking.

On September 05 2013 02:45 Risen wrote:


And what have you done that hasn't been useless? I see a scummy looking player who's trying to dictate the thread discussion because he has 8 pages of filter and feels like asserting his weight in thread. But what's in that 8 pages of filter?

I see someone who was defending geript when he shouldn't have been, wants to lynch "inactives" at a time when people are actually trying to scumhunt instead of just diddle around in thread, and just gives up on his scum reads for no particular reason.

I see someone entirely unmotivated to actually DO anything but point fingers around, try and appear to be active, and pretend that's activity. That's scum play.

On September 05 2013 02:43 Koshi wrote:
Who is most likely to die tonight?

On September 05 2013 02:55 Risen wrote:


That is horrible speculation in a game like this, especially when that etc part continues on for a LOT of people. Why choose me out of the very, very long list. I'm actually in the thread contributing and have been for a nice amount of time. Why continue your tunnel when your reason for tunneling no longer applies, unless you saw Hiro's action and decided now was a time to get rid of someone who isn't on your scum team.

On September 05 2013 03:28 austinmcc wrote:
= Alakaslam.

On September 05 2013 04:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Smart conclusions are coming before resolution period.
I just spent entirety of d2 trying to get slam lynched and it still didn't fucking happen.

On September 05 2013 05:03 MrZentor wrote:
I'd just like to point out that, although I did vote late, I had been saying all game that geript was scum and I didn't think alakasam was scum.

Voting late isn't a reason to suspect somebody of being mafia. Voting without any reasons is.

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On September 09 2013 09:36 Risen wrote:


Listen to your heart, and stay healthy you delicious individual. Just live through the night, can you do that for me?

On September 09 2013 09:42 cakepie wrote:
Hello fellow pastry. Is there any useful information to be gained from your N2 actions despite Kita's death? Did you get what you wanted?

On September 09 2013 09:46 cakepie wrote:
Nothing else noteworthy happened?

On September 09 2013 09:56 cakepie wrote:


Or you got roleblocked using power that scum gained from killing pickachu.
Rayn you got anything about pikachu having roleblock notification or not?
I'm assuming such powers are not immediate-compulsive since you sounded like you have control over when you use it. So scum could have saved it up for later since they had slam around to do the RB job N2.

On September 09 2013 10:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I know. And suddenly all the scummy guys jump on lynching me. :D
Funny isn't it?

On September 10 2013 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role starts with an E.

On September 10 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:


Do you believe zentor to be town? Or you think the crush thing is fake?

On September 10 2013 00:45 Clarity_nl wrote:


You are aware that Hiro is crushing Zentor?

On September 10 2013 00:49 WaveofShadow wrote:

Why does that clear Hiro exactly?
We don't exactly know of the conditions of Cephiro's grand plan do we?

On September 10 2013 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hassy said he was blocking VE right? He is not lying because he was town.

On September 10 2013 01:15 austinmcc wrote:
I think there's a good shot of him flipping scum.

However, everything that happened towards the middle/end of closed casket world is on my mind. Something went really wrong with whatever was going on over there, because (given no townie claim) someone created a second thread, put people in a world WITH NO FLIPS, and then they no-lynched. I like the no-lynch given the lack of discussion/planning over there, but I don't like the lead up to it, the lack of discussion itself and the general MEH attitude towards a lynch. I'm worried that bum was set up as a mislynch and something went wrong.

That's why I'd like to shoot randombum, because IF he's town, he won't get shot. If he's town, his vote counts, he'll vote NOT himself, and because the vote isn't unanimous then he'll live. I can't do that with anyone else, because anyone stutters and cakepie targets will get shot, randombum is the exception because he's also in the sleeper cell, so his vote would count if he's town.

On September 10 2013 01:17 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm fairly sure I would be the thing that went wrong in that case as I'm pretty sure when I suggested no lynch near the end of the day it actually happened.

Hiro: If Ceph is 'Master Tsiv' are you Yi?
Are you two 3P?

On September 10 2013 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What the fuck is this? Axle is almost certainly town.

On September 10 2013 01:25 austinmcc wrote:
Don't like this. If we don't trust he's not done anything, then we don't trust his roleclaim anyway.

If we trust he's done nothing, then I dunno what we get out of a claim.

On September 10 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not sure of it any more because of the QT shenanigans. Apparently WoS has tried to talk there and Axle has not?

On September 10 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can someone explain to me what Axle is saying. I don't understand a single fucking thing.

On September 10 2013 01:40 AxleGreaser wrote:



WOS a possible towny or a possible Scum. Lying about what another flipped towny said in the QT.