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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:11 GMT
#1502
ok so for reals, there seem to be enough votes that I can safely move my vote to AxleGreaser for him to use his power. Does this sound good AG?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:14 GMT
#1506
His power acts on everyone that's on his wagon at the end of the day. Judging by who and how many people he chose, it's probably a Masonry power. It might be an investigative power but I doubt he would get a check on everyone voting him, for balance reasons-- it probably is a bit broader, like "there is or isn't a scum in this group of voters". In any case, I see no reason not to humor him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:18 GMT
#1509
actually, tgere's also the possibility that he just kills everyone who's voting him, which would be kinda LOL. I'll do it though. I'll do it for the lols

I hope this works!

##unvote
##vote AxleGreaser
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:19 GMT
#1510
EBWOP: I am standing by to swap back to Geript if needed
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:21 GMT
#1515
Given what AG said it's probably like a 1-shot "cop check everyone who has voted for me" deal. That also ties in with him wanting some of the people who are good as whatever alignment voting him today
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:21 GMT
#1517
well now that AG has said it, it'd be real suspicious for anyone he's requested to vote him NOT to vote him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#1520
On September 01 2013 08:22 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
actually, tgere's also the possibility that he just kills everyone who's voting him, which would be kinda LOL. I'll do it though. I'll do it for the lols

I hope this works!

##unvote
##vote AxleGreaser



That would be pretty LOL but OP?


depends on what other roles are in the game
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#1521
On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan?


probably because they're both scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#1522
On September 01 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan?


probably because they're both scum.


maybe they also have philosophical reasons but i'm betting it's the "ceph and hiro are scum" thing that's the real motivation
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:27 GMT
#1524
I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:27 GMT
#1525
note: Geript is now at 19 votes due to our 3 unvotes, so we're looking pretty safe.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#1527
On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively

Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb.


It's reasonably obvious to me that AG WANTS mafia to vote for him. Haven't you been reading? Or are you too busy in your scum QT scumming with your scumbuddies, scum?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:30 GMT
#1529
On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else

Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me.


I'm sorry

What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:35 GMT
#1534
On September 01 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else

Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me.


I'm sorry

What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right?

It's just this. I still think you're scummy, and as such you shouldn't be this confident in following along with a town-aligned plan like AG's.

Some of your actions resonate as being from a town perspective, like this one, but I still can't connect it to the fact that you refuse to actively participate in scumhunting in this game so I have to assume scum.


Okay, so it's certainly possible, from your perspective, that I'm scum and I think I can stop AG's plan from working, but AG, the guy who knows more about his role than anyone else, who doesn't speculate but KNOWS what's going to happen, seems to be fine with it. He seems to WANT scum voting him. Maybe it's a vigi explosion shot and he's bluffing that it's not. Maybe it's cop checks. Maybe-- who knows? The point is, AG can judge better than us what to do, and he wants me to vote him, even knowing that I'm not playing the towniest game I ever had.

And you have to admit, there's also the possibility (even if you think it's a slim one) that this is exactly what it looks like: I am town and I am following the plan laid to me by someone who claims to have a power.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#1537
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#1538
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#1541
On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision.

I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it.


Okay, that's reasonable. I am a tricky, wiley, intelligent, witty, brilliant player as scum, and am truly unstoppable. I see why one would quake in fear and awe at the massive intellect I potentially bring to the table for the scumteam. I understand your worry.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#1543
On September 01 2013 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so.

Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched?
Why this confidence?
THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it.



I'd say Hiropro and shiaopi
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:42 GMT
#1548
On September 01 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision.

I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it.


Okay, that's reasonable. I am a tricky, wiley, intelligent, witty, brilliant player as scum, and am truly unstoppable. I see why one would quake in fear and awe at the massive intellect I potentially bring to the table for the scumteam. I understand your worry.


In fact I think the one thing we can agree on is that I'm a really smart, knowledgeable, effective, competent, sexy, well-muscled mafia player. Using this common point of agreement perhaps we can branch out to others?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
August 31 2013 23:43 GMT
#1549
On September 01 2013 08:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so.

Why are you so unbelievably sure that he is scum and will be lynched?
Why this confidence?
THIS is precisely why I take issue with your play. If you were truly town as you state why not at the very least humour me and others who were calling for reads earlier? (Although it's pretty much just me right now) If you are town then there is literally no downside to it.



I'd say Hiropro and shiaopi

Did you read my analysis of either of those two?


yeah i basically have a scumread on hiropro because someone (possibly you, maybe someone else) pointed out how scummy he was. Shiaopi looks super scummy though and as I have said, if we have 16 people on hand I'd be glad to shenannie over to him and lynch him instead.
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