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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
August 31 2013 01:41 GMT
#1101
that yes yes yes is responding to RB, not WoS
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 01:43 GMT
#1102
On August 31 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 10:38 randombum wrote:
I don't know if you deserve credit for getting cora replaced by dandel (whom I'm not sure is as good of a player as you seem to think since dandel failed to make us gods amongst mafia players in our last game together). Like you said you didn't expect that as the outcome. So what could have happened was he gets super angry, but not quit, and the two of you argue in thread dis-railing everything which one could easily see as a scum thing to do.

I personally want to believe you weren't trying to get him to quit, because winning by being so unfun to play with that others quit is no good.




Oh shit randombum puls out the Dick Move Analysis™!
Marv where you at, bro?

Actually you know, I'm not sure dick move analysis applies to BH. He definitely would pull dick move-type stuff to win. Maybe not stuff that would mess with hosts in whatever way (though I'm sure marv/geript would have something to say about that) but you DID attempt to win The Game through sheer spam (and did a good job as well) which really pissed some people off.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
August 31 2013 01:43 GMT
#1103
>implying I didn't win The Game
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 31 2013 01:47 GMT
#1104
I think he was implying that your spam didn't win you The Game, rather the derp of VE won you The Game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 01:47 GMT
#1105
On August 31 2013 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
>implying I didn't win The Game

True, but dick move analysis states that people wouldn't resort to 'out-of-game' or 'host-gaming' methods to win a game otherwise people wouldn't want to keep playing with them. You very finely skirted that line, and while not pissing me off, you certainly pissed others off (to me they just kinda seemed butthurt for losing lol). You just seem like the kind of person who wouldn't mind employing whatever methods he deemed necessary to win a game. Take that as you will.

Anyway,
On August 31 2013 10:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ah that's right, you've missed out on the majority of games with Chezinu. Shame, that.

I guess my question is this then: what do you think of him THIS game? Subtract his roleplay stuff for the moment - do you think he's playing for or against town?

Looking at Hiro.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
August 31 2013 01:49 GMT
#1106
i take it as a compliment!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 31 2013 01:54 GMT
#1107
On August 31 2013 09:33 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
It's a good idea to lynch geript because we can test if his claim is real or not. If it is real, then we look at the people that soft pushed his lynch once he claimed, because that is where the scum lies.

A lynch that tells us absolutely nothing and is surely not scum is scum driven.


@vayne. HUH?

Surely the underlined bit is you.... driving a Geript Lynch.
hence according to you the bold bit you must be scum?

If it is as you say "where the scum lies"... is it "A lynch that tells us absolutely nothing?"



I don't know what you are saying most of the time but

I am not being subtle about it all, I am saying geript is a good lynch. Scum wouldn't want to take a stance on it, but make sure it happens. They can't go back and edit their posts now so I have no problem saying it.

WoS brings up a good point about him playing so blatantly cocky, that there is a possibility he WANTS to be lynched for whatever reason
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 01:57 GMT
#1108
On August 31 2013 10:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 09:33 AxleGreaser wrote:
On August 31 2013 08:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
It's a good idea to lynch geript because we can test if his claim is real or not. If it is real, then we look at the people that soft pushed his lynch once he claimed, because that is where the scum lies.

A lynch that tells us absolutely nothing and is surely not scum is scum driven.


@vayne. HUH?

Surely the underlined bit is you.... driving a Geript Lynch.
hence according to you the bold bit you must be scum?

If it is as you say "where the scum lies"... is it "A lynch that tells us absolutely nothing?"



I don't know what you are saying most of the time but

I am not being subtle about it all, I am saying geript is a good lynch. Scum wouldn't want to take a stance on it, but make sure it happens. They can't go back and edit their posts now so I have no problem saying it.

WoS brings up a good point about him playing so blatantly cocky, that there is a possibility he WANTS to be lynched for whatever reason

When I read your arguments about soft pushing I was a little confused myself.
Technically couldn't you read into every exchange I have made with Geript as me soft pushing him as well? I certainly haven't voted for him. Why believe me over anyone else doing the same?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 02:01 GMT
#1109
Really fucking hitting my stride this game. Feels so much better than Persona.
/brag
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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 02:03 GMT
#1110
Hi guys. What's goin on. Whens da lynch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 31 2013 02:04 GMT
#1111
On August 31 2013 11:03 debears wrote:
Hi guys. What's goin on. Whens da lynch

~22 hrs. Plenty of time for you to find us some scum, or to jump onboard the geript wagon. Your choice.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 02:08 GMT
#1112
Alright good sir. Just to give you guys a heads up. I highly doubt i'll read straight through the thread. I'll be taking a look at filters most likely then look them up in thread if I need context
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 02:19 GMT
#1113
I'm gonna guess most people have a town read on clarity and wave of shadow. Possibly BH too. Just based on filter size

VE Koshi and Slam doing decently as well
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 31 2013 02:25 GMT
#1114
Ok BM QT names

I was first to post
Edward Nigma only a hello post
Kobe Bryant
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Master Yi he claimed 3p
Try TL Mafia!!!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 02:27 GMT
#1115
@Hassy

I could use a Yu-Gi-Oh quote for my role

Got any recommendations on what card I can use when I use my role?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 02:32 GMT
#1116
On August 31 2013 11:19 debears wrote:
I'm gonna guess most people have a town read on clarity and wave of shadow. Possibly BH too. Just based on filter size

VE Koshi and Slam doing decently as well

Filter size not the best tell around, though on that note I'm certain there are scummers in the no/1/2-posters thus far.

Anyway, Hiro.
Like you suggested, VE, I'm ignoring the Brown trolling since I can't really comment much on that.
He apparently has a scumread on BH. Not too surprising but one of the first to bring it up so mebbe townpoints?
On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:
I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread).

Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then.


##unvote
##vote geript


my points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript

This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).

Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!"

Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him").

Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH.

This post bothers me though.
He goes and does some analysis on Geript (wrong analysis, btw but I'll get to that) and then moves on to BH. He basically slams BH for not scumhunting re:Geript yet gives Geript a pass for it in the same thread.
Regarding his posts on Geript as well, it looks as though he is wilfully ignoring what the rest of us (including BH) must see. Geript does not troll simply to annoy people, and his 'unlynchable' post definitely has a reason. Hiro is quick to dismiss Geript's play as useless and trolling towny and does not want to lynch him because of that. I'm honestly not sure where that analysis comes from because Cora did LITERALLY the exact thing Hiro is describing (acting like Coag) and got lambasted for it. Why would he think that we'd give Geript a free pass? Something is definitely odd about the way he has chosen to view Geript's posting and I don't like it.

Then this.
On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 07:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:
I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread).

Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic:
On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then.


##unvote
##vote geript


my points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript

This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).

Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!"

Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him").

Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH.


Why does this apply to BH but not to WoS or myself?

Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_-

Defense of me, and inaccurate to boot. I am currently voting for ShiaoPi because lurk, (and was at the time of this post I believe) and never had a big case on anyone. Why should I not be suspicious for not voting Geript even though I have repeatedly agreed with others' scummy views of him? If anything Vayne is probably closer to the right of it in that you'd expect a towny to vote for who he thinks is sucm (I have given my reasons for not doing so).

On August 31 2013 08:21 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:
I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread).

Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic:
On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then.


##unvote
##vote geript


my points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript

This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).

Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!"

Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him").

Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH.


Why does this apply to BH but not to WoS or myself?

Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_-


I thought WoS voted geript but my point stands.
I can understand your "drops his whole big case to vote for someone" argument but...

On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
<snip>
Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).
<snip>

On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game.

On August 31 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game.

I agree with this completely.



What's your point clarity? Do you or do you not see the difference between the play of yourself/WoS and BH?

If you're trying to say something along the lines of "hiro, why are you being inconsistent about the reactions?", specifics clarity: the actions that the two of you took and the behavior leading up to this are different. You may not think it matters, but I do.


This post makes me feel a little better but it's kind of vague. I honestly need a few specifics here and maybe a response to Hiro regarding my recent interaction with BH as well.

I'm not necessarily feeling scum on Hiro but I want some elaboration. What he has done about his super strong scumread of BH is not enough if he truly believes BH is scum imo, and I want some more recent context regarding current thread events.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 02:35 GMT
#1117
On August 31 2013 11:25 Onegu wrote:
Ok BM QT names

I was first to post
Edward Nigma only a hello post
Kobe Bryant
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Master Yi he claimed 3p

Thank you Onegu.
As a self-proclaimed resident LoL expert, out of the current player list, Master Yi has to be one of:
Oats
Dandel
Kita
Vayne (unlikely)
Fuba
Yamato
VE

Before one of the above players remarks that the name could have been chosen to make people like me think it's one of the above players, I say that Master Yi did not assume that the BM QT names and whatnot would be leaked.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 31 2013 02:39 GMT
#1118
I just woke up and have to finish kid stuff then I will catch up on the thread and post my reads not just BM things.
Try TL Mafia!!!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 31 2013 02:40 GMT
#1119
On August 31 2013 11:39 Onegu wrote:
I just woke up and have to finish kid stuff then I will catch up on the thread and post my reads not just BM things.

Take your time.
You know I've got a soft spot for you and your kids.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 31 2013 02:42 GMT
#1120
@Wave... I think you have Hiro wrong just fyi.
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