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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 16:30 GMT
#2094
I don't think thats stupid either, remember that he was UP FOR LYNCH VERY SOON guys. The only reason people are considering him not scum is "too stupid to be scum" and it's working perfectly. Claiming it in thread is a very town thing to do so it's casting doubt.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 19:39 GMT
#2219
yea I forgot obviousone even existed, can't see him flipping town. If we can get enough votes on that alakaslam guy I want to start dropping votes on OO and see what happens.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:06 GMT
#2256
interesting, the fate is -3 at the moment so it seems hiropro is bulletproof for this next night.

The hassy thing is pretty much the same thing as the alakaslam thing. two things that make zero sense to announce in thread as scum and yet it still happened. So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:15 GMT
#2259
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:25 GMT
#2264
On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter?


nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:27 GMT
#2269
On September 03 2013 10:26 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter?


nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy.


Huh?


you're implying that a scum hassy tried to save a third party/town VE. why is this like pulling teeth...
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:29 GMT
#2272
On September 03 2013 10:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
vayne, read the thread:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 09:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Well that actually sucks for him =\

Why does Hassy not look good? Who acted on VE?


Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there.

All the proof you need.



how about you read the thread. I just said that it isn't open and shut like that.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:31 GMT
#2274
On September 03 2013 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter?


nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy.

Wat.
I'm assuming the theory behind Hassy scum is that he simply lied about trying to protect VE because he looked towny at the time (at least to me) because he figured there was no way anyone would find out that that's not what his dice roll did.


that makes zero fucking sense. You realize that would still be an action right? And kita claims his role reveals ALL actions. Why didn't we see any dice rolling going on then over there?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:32 GMT
#2276
On September 03 2013 10:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter?


nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy.


Huh?


you're implying that a scum hassy tried to save a third party/town VE. why is this like pulling teeth...


I'm implying that a scum hassy is lying about trying to save a non-scum VE.

What makes you think that I think that hassy tried to save VE?


im looking at it from my perspective where I don't fully believe that he necessarily lied.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:33 GMT
#2278
On September 03 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter?


nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy.

Wat.
I'm assuming the theory behind Hassy scum is that he simply lied about trying to protect VE because he looked towny at the time (at least to me) because he figured there was no way anyone would find out that that's not what his dice roll did.


that makes zero fucking sense. You realize that would still be an action right? And kita claims his role reveals ALL actions. Why didn't we see any dice rolling going on then over there?

All actions ON VE.
The dice may not have been what killed VE to begin with, they may have simply shot him, hence the fact that the modpost says VE WAS FUCKING SHOT.


ok? and everyone is saying that the action was somehow tied to VE dying. so why didn't we see the dice roll action on VE?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:34 GMT
#2279
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:36 GMT
#2284
On September 03 2013 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter?


nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy.

Wat.
I'm assuming the theory behind Hassy scum is that he simply lied about trying to protect VE because he looked towny at the time (at least to me) because he figured there was no way anyone would find out that that's not what his dice roll did.


that makes zero fucking sense. You realize that would still be an action right? And kita claims his role reveals ALL actions. Why didn't we see any dice rolling going on then over there?

All actions ON VE.
The dice may not have been what killed VE to begin with, they may have simply shot him, hence the fact that the modpost says VE WAS FUCKING SHOT.


ok? and everyone is saying that the action was somehow tied to VE dying. so why didn't we see the dice roll action on VE?

I don't really care what everyone else says about the dice roll. It could have done anything to anyone else. Yes your scenario is somewhat plausible but to me it seems more likely that Hassy simply lied for towncred and didn't think he'd get caught.


which leads me to my entire fucking point


why is this discrepancy so incriminating but the alakaslam thing is getting swept under the rug?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:38 GMT
#2287
On September 03 2013 10:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here.


What does this mean?



?? everyone is quick to believe that the night actions on this specific case is incriminating but nobody cares that alakaslam fucked the entire village with his item.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:40 GMT
#2289
Anyways, how hassy deals with this will be a lot more telling than any role actions in this clusterfuck.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 01:44 GMT
#2291
No, his filter is terrible but if I went based off that, this would be a reverse mafia game.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 05:18 GMT
#2313
yea that last geript post is too ridiculous to be town but not that concerned with him atm, he already used all his powers (I hope so at least, or his role is the best role NA) so he's just a sitting duck at this point.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 16:46 GMT
#2444
kitaman already making pre-flip assocations, something weird is going on over there with him. Im the only one that sees it though apparently
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 18:55 GMT
#2493
On September 03 2013 14:12 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 13:12 Risen wrote:
On September 03 2013 11:48 randombum wrote:
Ok I'm back.

First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early.

As he said
On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote:
Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today.

Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him.

And it doesn't help that he killed a townie.

Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player.


Bolded is relevant. Town players don't troll that hard.

Man I wish that my vote counted for shit because now you're being too obtuse to be town. You can get over it. I'm way more invested in beating brutal and getting good at SC2 than playing this game. Hell I just scored a 72 at MP in bridge with my dad. Nothing about what I did wasted town's time. If town chose to waste their time on that instead of scum hunting that's on them instead of me. Rather, should anyone actually choose to go back and read instead of bitch about how I'm playing I'm sure there's actual useful information to be found there based on who wants to talk about claims and shit instead of actually progress the thread. Prove it scum. Risen tunnel enabled.


lol no, if you make this post as town you are a fuckin' loser lmao. This is about as troll as it gets, bragging about his real life or something in a mafia game. minus all respect if he flips town after that
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#2567
lol @ this last minute wagon on hassy. lots of upstanding citizens on that lynch.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2013 23:05 GMT
#2595
I will not vote for risen or hassy so have at it. I will switch my vote from slam to geript if I need to though.
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