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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 02:25 GMT
#2984
On September 05 2013 10:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only that I'm immune from lynch today.

Anyway, it doesn't matter to me what you meant by your "Nuff said". All I know is that you said it after placing a vote. Townies will take what they will from that. I've said my piece on what I took from it. *shrug*


I'm surprised you are giving up on actually asking me why I read austin the way I do.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 03:07 GMT
#2988
On September 05 2013 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 11:25 debears wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only that I'm immune from lynch today.

Anyway, it doesn't matter to me what you meant by your "Nuff said". All I know is that you said it after placing a vote. Townies will take what they will from that. I've said my piece on what I took from it. *shrug*


I'm surprised you are giving up on actually asking me why I read austin the way I do.

I don't have to - you already explained it in enough detail for me to get a read on you.


Cool
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 12:34 GMT
#3036
On September 05 2013 15:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Cakepie's recent posting, he's piecing things together for us, finding beauty in the dissonance so to speak. Grats on town read.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 15:28 ShiaoPi wrote:
Lets lynch OO?!
##Vote: ObviousOne

Naaah. Might help if you opened up MSPaint and created a impressionist diorama akin to debears, at least it'll be worth a chuckle. Maybe you should be voting for the 'slam dunk?

if you miss the pun i'm sorry, I had to


If you want a copy of it it'll cost ya $500. No less
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 12:38 GMT
#3037
On September 05 2013 20:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
Gaining more confidence in a debears lynch honestly. Just because of nightkill wifom...
Like, Cheese didn't die either and he was pushing slam as hard as I was near deadline.


I'm curious clarity. Tell me how my lack of activity means I'm scum.

I have a small task for you.

Go to my profile. Look at my scum games. Look at my filter sizes in those scum games.

Look at my town games. Look at my filter sizes in those gams.
Look at my 3p games. Look at my filter sizes in those games.

Tell me which of those my lack of activity relates.

Next,

I want you to look at when I replaced in. Then, I want you to look at the other game I was in. Look at my filter size and time consumption with that game.

Then, I want you to decide whether my posting really indicates whether I'm scum based off of
1) meta
2) time after seeing we are playing in a heavily themed setup while I was in another game.
3) Looking at the posting of other people who have been in both games contribution wise

Go on clarity, go on. I dare ya
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 12:47 GMT
#3040
On September 05 2013 21:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
Here's the thing, if you were town why would you send me on such a wild goose chase?

Question for you though: Have you considered using your role ability that only puts you and your target up for lynch on austin? You were basically ready to die last cycle to kill geript, but you haven't mentioned that ability today yet?


I have considered it. I don't think I need it to lynch austin. The reason I wanted to use it on geript was the possibility that he could swap votes around again.

On September 05 2013 21:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
You also haven't cared to comment on the cell stuff, even though austin is in the middle of it.


and yet again. I haven't read that far yet
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 12:55 GMT
#3043
On September 05 2013 21:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Alright well how about you stop posting, get caught up, and then post some actual reads? This is the only game you're currently in, yes?


I won't be able to catch up 80 pages on filter by the time lynch happens.

Btw, how is that a wild goose chase? I have all my games in my profile (except for 1 sk game I believe).

How is asking you to look at my filter length, in any way, extensive research (ie a "wild goose chase")? It's not like I'm asking you to read my games. Especially when I keep seeing you say "debears is scummy".

Either you are being very lazy for someone with the posting amount to be a town leader, or you aren't town.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 13:15 GMT
#3047
On September 05 2013 22:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
Calling me lazy this game is just an insult btw, I've put more time in this game than I care to admit.


Then why wouldn't you quickly look up my posting habits in all my other games if you think I'm scummy. Why do you think I'm asking you to? For shits and giggles? It helps me get a read on you.

I already know the answer, but I want to see your answer.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#3050
On September 05 2013 22:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because I do not understand why you, as town, would waste my time by looking into your previous games, especially since it doesn't debunk anything I've said, see my previous post. My only use of meta is that you care a ton as town (or last game which you basically played as if you were town). Getting kinda tired of this soft pushing debears, and you still haven't commented on austin.

I've seen you play as both alignments debears, I'm aware you put effort in as scum as well. But you could easily just say THAT instead of making me go on a "wild goose hunt".

Anyway with this new info from stutters/onegu we're lynching slam today. So read up on slam, read up on austin, give us READS.


I care a ton as either alignment. You know that. The fact that you are saying me not posting alot is alignment related is absolute bullshit, especially considering the circumstances. It's not reasonable, and there are other things about you that haven't been answered, which by the next couple of lynches, will reveal your alignment.

YOu said the last 5 pages had the austin thing, when it was the last 7 when he claimed. You are being entirely unreasonable if you are town.

When have I "soft pushed". In fact, when have I even pushed someone this game?

There's no reason to read up on slam. His posting is all over the place, I just finished playing a game with him, and his posting looked scum city as town. For him, you just have to look at votes.

Why are you not considering Mr. CC for lynch? and Why is SnB not mentioned by stutters as possible scum?

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#3051
ebwop why is Snb not mentioned by raynp?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 02:18 GMT
#3179
On September 06 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote:
Voting debears, there's no way he should even be functional if he's not reading the thread without some kind of assistance.

##Vote: debears

Also I think he tried something like this shit back in Nomination Mafia and he was scum there.


##Nirvana Stirke: ObviousOne

This guys is the scum. Lynching for "functionality" and not scum
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#3181
Btw, I want to point out that "I think he tried this in XXXXX game" is a bullshit excuse for making an actual meta case where I did this.

I've already asked clarity to do the same, he refused to go and look also. Bring it on. I know you won't find anything like that in my history OO
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#3185
forgot this pic

[image loading]
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 03:09 GMT
#3193
[image loading]

You guys will need it after I'm done with OO. Gonna get messy
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 04:33 GMT
#3210
On September 06 2013 13:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 13:12 AxleGreaser wrote:
On September 06 2013 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you're both town this is an unfathomable mistake.

Unforgivable.



Both of who?

debears and OO.

I've suspected them both but that was a townish act from debears and OO is fearless (or seemingly) in the face of it.

If they're both town I'm officially playing for scum. :/


Look at his reasoning for voting me. How is that town oriented thought process from him at all?

Cuz it isn't. At all.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 04:47 GMT
#3213
On September 06 2013 13:42 ObviousOne wrote:
Well the town hasn't hit any mafia with KP yet so why stop the nonsense now, right? I'm a public (must announce in thread) day Vig with a 1 day delay and I have not shot anyone because, as you've seen, its typically more likely to hit town than anything. I asked rayn specifically today who he thought was mafia because I trust he is the town Pokemon master opposing a scum Pokemon master and he has been vocal about trying to settle things in the thread to no avail.

I will say this much: I'd rather not have to shoot debears given that it's a lynch between him and myself but at this point he's the one I'm most confident to be scum in this thread today. So he will die one way or another. That is why I'm confident in the face of this, VE. He has assured mutual destruction at worst, and his lynch at best and I hope a 1 for 1 trade with scum is going to help us win.


crumbs?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 04:52 GMT
#3215
On September 06 2013 13:48 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 13:47 debears wrote:
On September 06 2013 13:42 ObviousOne wrote:
Well the town hasn't hit any mafia with KP yet so why stop the nonsense now, right? I'm a public (must announce in thread) day Vig with a 1 day delay and I have not shot anyone because, as you've seen, its typically more likely to hit town than anything. I asked rayn specifically today who he thought was mafia because I trust he is the town Pokemon master opposing a scum Pokemon master and he has been vocal about trying to settle things in the thread to no avail.

I will say this much: I'd rather not have to shoot debears given that it's a lynch between him and myself but at this point he's the one I'm most confident to be scum in this thread today. So he will die one way or another. That is why I'm confident in the face of this, VE. He has assured mutual destruction at worst, and his lynch at best and I hope a 1 for 1 trade with scum is going to help us win.


crumbs?

Who crumbs day vig? You'll know when it happens. Plain as day.


1)Well it's curious to me, that you, as a day vig would try to get me lynched when you don't have any info/evidence that would indicate me as scum.

On September 06 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
Is debears really playing the game while being more than half the game behind in reading the thread? What the fuck?!


On September 06 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote:
Voting debears, there's no way he should even be functional if he's not reading the thread without some kind of assistance.

##Vote: debears

Also I think he tried something like this shit back in Nomination Mafia and he was scum there.


Lynching someone for being only inactive is not town mindsest when there are no mafia lynched (to our knowledge).

2) Why have you not looked up the nomination game and shown proof before roleclaiming? If you had evidence on me I would be damned on the spot

3) Why did you roleclaim so early if you are so sure I am scum and if you have a good case?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 04:53 GMT
#3216
oh, and that you would try to get me lynched when you can just shoot me since you don't think I'm actually scum (or have any evidence of it)
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 05:01 GMT
#3221
On September 06 2013 13:58 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 13:53 debears wrote:
oh, and that you would try to get me lynched when you can just shoot me since you don't think I'm actually scum (or have any evidence of it)

Well, I decided today to vote for you, so today would be a good day to shoot, right?


But why wouldn't you just shoot me and move on to someone else for the lynch? You instead waste time of the thread and yourself if you are town.

Like, by your wording, I would be "useless" to the game contribution wise. Every says I've been lurking. I'd be the perfect candidate for a vig shot, since my lynch would reveal no real information as town or scum.

Like, makes 00000000000000 to the nth degree sense if you were a town dayvig.

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 16:25 GMT
#3277
On September 06 2013 14:20 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 14:16 Felkyr wrote:
On September 06 2013 14:09 Risen wrote:
On September 06 2013 14:07 Felkyr wrote:
On September 06 2013 13:53 debears wrote:
oh, and that you would try to get me lynched when you can just shoot me since you don't think I'm actually scum (or have any evidence of it)

On September 06 2013 13:56 Risen wrote:
Yup, worst day vig claim I've ever seen. Why not just shoot debears instead of force us to waste a lynch between you two.

##unvote
##vote: ObviousOnce


Wait, wouldn't it always be better to first try to lynch someone before you shoot him? In the least you get more information.


No. He should know the person staring him down is scum and/or incompetent town with a horrible read. Shoot the man and move on.


And it's good to blindly shoot town who happened to have a bad read? Everyone in this game should have been shot already then.


I thought the shot was instant. If that was the case then a town OO would immediately shoot debears simply to save the town from potentially lynching him (a confirmed townie to himself). This would free up the lynch.

I didn't know it was a 24 hour delay. Had I known I would have asked OO to shoot whoever he thought was his strongest scum read. The fact that he immediately sheeped me makes me think he's scum making a desperate play, though. A townie would simply shoot his strongest scum read and be done with it, not sheep with me a person he just asked to be lynched.


That's exactly what I was thinking
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 06 2013 16:30 GMT
#3279
On September 06 2013 19:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Fuck, I dunno. debears please explain how you're so certain. It seems to me like you used your ability because you were the main lynch candidate after slam banned himself. I guess townies AND scum can do that, but town have to be pretty certain about their read whereas scum do not.

OO's shot boggles my mind, why not see who is getting lynched before using your shot? If we end up lynching debears now the shot is wasted. Can you explain OO?


Look at my post on his vote. It's pretty "obvious" how his post comes from a non town mindset in any way shape or form.

Also, the fact that he wants me lynched when his reasoning was

1) I'm useless cuz I'm behind
2) he "thinks" i've done this before, yet provides no evidence and has since dropped that claim and not pushed it anymore.

Oh, and then the convenient dayvig claim, which I personally think he's lieing about.

Why would he claim dayvig so early if he was so sure I was scum and that I'd get lynched?

Why does he think it's in the realm of possibility of him gettin lynched over me without a claim if I'm so surely scum?
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