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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 18:52 GMT
#4201
I've got basically a little less than two hours before I'm gone. Likely won't be back until just before or just after deadline.
If there's anything you guys NEED to know from me, let me know. I'd still like to keep some things that don't really affect you guys to myself though. I'd also really like to not be shot by town tonight (if randombum is town) so keep in mind I'll probably be even MORE helpful if I'm not the cop/vigi target.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 18:53 GMT
#4202
Actually, no. I'm reading closed casket right now trying to look for mentions of no lynches and get timing down.

On September 05 2013 10:32 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:28 Cephiro wrote:
Okay good. I might need one more person to count on to split the risk but I'm not sure if I can find anyone I trust that much.

I'll give you instructions on D4 what to do.

tsiv plz, im your man.
On September 05 2013 10:34 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:33 HiroPro wrote:
but I can't actually carry out actions lol.

If you would've asked me D1 I would've agreed for sure. Now I'm not really sure, + the fact that you claimed to still have that circle on you won't work, unfortunately.
On September 05 2013 11:08 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:34 Cephiro wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:33 HiroPro wrote:
but I can't actually carry out actions lol.

If you would've asked me D1 I would've agreed for sure. Now I'm not really sure, + the fact that you claimed to still have that circle on you won't work, unfortunately.

ok, that's fine. just keep in mind that if the fate goes down to -1 or lower, I'm just as good as you, (if you get what I mean).
NOTHING ABOUT YOU PEOPLE MAKES SENSE.

Cephiro and HiroPro in contact somehow, afawk.
HiroPro apparently cannot take part in the plan yesteday, due to roleblockage.
Cephiro apparently thinks HiroPro can't participate.
Cephiro does something with HiroPro anyway.
HiroPro apparently CAN participate, and isn't roleblockaged?

And yet with the two of them being buddy buddy and HiroPro coming out at the start of the day wanting to lynch randombum, they don't push him and he doesn't get lynched.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 18:54 GMT
#4203
On September 07 2013 08:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm just blatantly sheeping. If we're switching off of randombum yall can let me know.
Hell we can no-lynch like someone suggested.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 18:56 GMT
#4204
Yeah. I remember Hiro's argument being "we get nothing because there will be no-flip and we can't tell anything about voting patterns etc etc..".

That is entirely false. In a no-flip world it is much more likely that scum do not buss. Voting patterns tell INCREDIBLY much when one of the other guys who were in that world flips. If they are scum, it tells so much, what was their reasoning for voting? Were they bussing (most likely not, because of no-flip)? Did they vote for the lynched guy (if yes, then they were probably green)? etc etc.

It was just like, "we get no info, shut up all and no-lynch". That was so friggin' anti-town.
table for two on a tv tray
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 18:57 GMT
#4205
On September 10 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've got basically a little less than two hours before I'm gone. Likely won't be back until just before or just after deadline.
If there's anything you guys NEED to know from me, let me know. I'd still like to keep some things that don't really affect you guys to myself though. I'd also really like to not be shot by town tonight (if randombum is town) so keep in mind I'll probably be even MORE helpful if I'm not the cop/vigi target.

If you're a survivor/neutral, then you don't care.

You'd reveal whatever you can about VE/yourself because you're giving information to town AND scum, trying to make nice with both, and you make yourself not a threat.

You clearly HAVE information on VE, which makes it far more likely you're 3P than other factions, because I don't see a random scum player (cuz you ain't town) happening to know what a guy who flipped 3P's role PM is and what actions he takes/where his circle is.

But you're hiding it. That is...remarkably not neutral.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 18:58 GMT
#4206
On September 10 2013 03:57 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've got basically a little less than two hours before I'm gone. Likely won't be back until just before or just after deadline.
If there's anything you guys NEED to know from me, let me know. I'd still like to keep some things that don't really affect you guys to myself though. I'd also really like to not be shot by town tonight (if randombum is town) so keep in mind I'll probably be even MORE helpful if I'm not the cop/vigi target.

If you're a survivor/neutral, then you don't care.

You'd reveal whatever you can about VE/yourself because you're giving information to town AND scum, trying to make nice with both, and you make yourself not a threat.

You clearly HAVE information on VE, which makes it far more likely you're 3P than other factions, because I don't see a random scum player (cuz you ain't town) happening to know what a guy who flipped 3P's role PM is and what actions he takes/where his circle is.

But you're hiding it. That is...remarkably not neutral.

I don't want to fuck him over too. He'd be mad.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 18:59 GMT
#4207
On September 10 2013 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 08:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm just blatantly sheeping. If we're switching off of randombum yall can let me know.
Hell we can no-lynch like someone suggested.

Note that you point out someone suggested it.

This is the first mention I can find:
On September 07 2013 03:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jeeze I go afk for school and work and ppl think you scum.

Onegu is most likely town, because hes right about my visit. I dont think scum would have that ability. I did target kita with an ability. I'd rather scum not know my role because they probably could do something to screw with it. I will say that it has to do with the fate counter, and that depending o if n what Fate number is i perform different actions.

This is no flip, is it possible to no lynch? If not, best lynches are Mr.Z, random or maybe cephiro but notsre on him.


Heck, the cool kids in our thread were talking about that hours before you were:
On September 07 2013 04:59 austinmcc wrote:
I like the idea of no flipping , especially with alakaslam flipping. Do wish someone else had mentioned it, though.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 18:59 GMT
#4208
In other words, you guys are entirely NOT neutral.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 18:59 GMT
#4209
PS Cheese you didn't switch your vote to Axle in the voting thread...
VOTE HIM LYNCH HIM KILL HIM DEAD DEAD DEAD SCUM
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 19:02 GMT
#4210
On September 10 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
PS Cheese you didn't switch your vote to Axle in the voting thread...
VOTE HIM LYNCH HIM KILL HIM DEAD DEAD DEAD SCUM


O shit ty
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 19:02 GMT
#4211
On September 10 2013 03:59 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 07 2013 08:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm just blatantly sheeping. If we're switching off of randombum yall can let me know.
Hell we can no-lynch like someone suggested.

Note that you point out someone suggested it.

This is the first mention I can find:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 03:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jeeze I go afk for school and work and ppl think you scum.

Onegu is most likely town, because hes right about my visit. I dont think scum would have that ability. I did target kita with an ability. I'd rather scum not know my role because they probably could do something to screw with it. I will say that it has to do with the fate counter, and that depending o if n what Fate number is i perform different actions.

This is no flip, is it possible to no lynch? If not, best lynches are Mr.Z, random or maybe cephiro but notsre on him.


Heck, the cool kids in our thread were talking about that hours before you were:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 04:59 austinmcc wrote:
I like the idea of no flipping , especially with alakaslam flipping. Do wish someone else had mentioned it, though.



Yes but no-lynch wasn't happening until i brought it up again. lol I claimed in the thread I had no idea what was going on and I'd sheep anything. If someone had suggested staying on randombum you think I would have been like "NO WAIT GUISE NO LYNCH SO MUCH BETTER"

I merely suggested it again because it was brought up before and I didn't care TOO much about what happened that day. Didn't really know if people would roll with it or not.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
September 09 2013 19:03 GMT
#4212
On September 10 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah. I remember Hiro's argument being "we get nothing because there will be no-flip and we can't tell anything about voting patterns etc etc..".

That is entirely false. In a no-flip world it is much more likely that scum do not buss. Voting patterns tell INCREDIBLY much when one of the other guys who were in that world flips. If they are scum, it tells so much, what was their reasoning for voting? Were they bussing (most likely not, because of no-flip)? Did they vote for the lynched guy (if yes, then they were probably green)? etc etc.

It was just like, "we get no info, shut up all and no-lynch". That was so friggin' anti-town.

I never said anything like that. Point to a single post in that world where I said we should no lynch because we don't get a flip.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 19:05 GMT
#4213
See I think the main difference between Hiro and me and that Hiro actually isn't doing shit. At the very least I am attempting to make myself useful--- Hiro has trolled half the game and is being purposefully enigmatic.

And of course there's Axle. Why there isn't basically a unanimous vote on him right now after the shit he pulled I don't know. He won't even come back to talk with the rest of the thread now that he's outed me and it's been shown to everyone I'm not scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 19:06 GMT
#4214
Why is a claimed 3P doing more to push scum lynches than half the town atm?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 19:06 GMT
#4215
On September 10 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
See I think the main difference between Hiro and me and that Hiro actually isn't doing shit. At the very least I am attempting to make myself useful--- Hiro has trolled half the game and is being purposefully enigmatic.

And of course there's Axle. Why there isn't basically a unanimous vote on him right now after the shit he pulled I don't know. He won't even come back to talk with the rest of the thread now that he's outed me and it's been shown to everyone I'm not scum.
Cough. Cough cough.
Fe fi fo fum.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 19:07 GMT
#4216
On September 10 2013 04:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why is a claimed 3P doing more to push scum lynches than half the town atm?


Because pseudo-confirmed townies are AFK.

The fact that Mr. Z is absent pretty much confirms him scum and I can't wait to see him flip.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 19:08 GMT
#4217
I'm content with lynching Axle unless he claims his role and prove he's not mafia. If he claims 3P I'm lynching him, because fuck your 3P's with your separate wincons and shit.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 19:09 GMT
#4218
Where the fuck is Clarity? That dude could be scum too.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 19:10 GMT
#4219
On September 10 2013 04:06 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
See I think the main difference between Hiro and me and that Hiro actually isn't doing shit. At the very least I am attempting to make myself useful--- Hiro has trolled half the game and is being purposefully enigmatic.

And of course there's Axle. Why there isn't basically a unanimous vote on him right now after the shit he pulled I don't know. He won't even come back to talk with the rest of the thread now that he's outed me and it's been shown to everyone I'm not scum.
Cough. Cough cough.

No, there's a difference austin.
I have specifically said WHY I don't want to tell you certain things. I have also revealed to you guys my role and powers.

Hiro has told you guys NOTHING, and is refusing to talk. The only thing he does is get all rustled when someone looks into his filter and accuses him of something.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 19:11 GMT
#4220
Aight, back. Long day at work + gotta take care of my apartment and myself as well. I've read myself up-to-date, but the last ~10-15 pages that came while I was away need another read-through before I can analyze them properly. If someone has something small they want a short reply on already, shoot. (I know there are at least some people with questions aimed at me.)
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