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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 16:23 GMT
#2081
uh alakaslam is definitely scum, he didn't want me to get the koshi item and the other person to get the null talisman. He fucked everything over.

##vote: alakaslam
I come in for the scraps
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 02 2013 16:24 GMT
#2082
Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on.


No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him.

A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 16:25 GMT
#2083
also I believe everyone on alakaslam right now is town, so I feel good about this as one of the lynches
I come in for the scraps
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 16:26 GMT
#2084
I'll admit Alakaslam is stupid if he's mafia. He hasn't show me any evidence that he isn't stupid, however.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 02 2013 16:26 GMT
#2085
I thought we were supposed to lynch scum, not stupid townies.

My bad.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 02 2013 16:27 GMT
#2086
On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on.


No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him.

A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him.


You're assuming scum play perfectly, yet town trip over their own feet every chance they get. He could have easily just mentioned it without thinking about it too much.
Why does this massive fuck up make more sense for town to do than scum to do?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 16:27 GMT
#2087
I can't take the green check seriously considering this is a greymist game where 30 people have roles and someone probably got moved around 100 times before that check landed or something.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 16:28 GMT
#2088
On September 03 2013 01:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'll admit Alakaslam is stupid if he's mafia. He hasn't show me any evidence that he isn't stupid, however.


It's not stupid at all, from what I understood two town members were going to receive very powerful items in conjunction with their roles and he stopped that. For some one who is a policy lynch at best, that's about the most useful he could be to his team ever.
I come in for the scraps
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 02 2013 16:28 GMT
#2089
On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on.


No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him.

A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him.


Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 02 2013 16:28 GMT
#2090
On September 03 2013 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 01:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'll admit Alakaslam is stupid if he's mafia. He hasn't show me any evidence that he isn't stupid, however.


It's not stupid at all, from what I understood two town members were going to receive very powerful items in conjunction with their roles and he stopped that. For some one who is a policy lynch at best, that's about the most useful he could be to his team ever.


Yeah but the stupid part is mentioning the item day 1.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 16:29 GMT
#2091
On September 03 2013 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 01:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'll admit Alakaslam is stupid if he's mafia. He hasn't show me any evidence that he isn't stupid, however.


It's not stupid at all, from what I understood two town members were going to receive very powerful items in conjunction with their roles and he stopped that. For some one who is a policy lynch at best, that's about the most useful he could be to his team ever.


I meant stupid as in claiming it to the thread.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 02 2013 16:29 GMT
#2092
SnB you didn't read my most recent post.

I also have stated since before the game fuck attempting to read Alakaslam and what he is doing/did so if people need me to vote for him I will but I'm not analyzing that shit.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 02 2013 16:30 GMT
#2093
okay lol anonymous green check and rolenamecheck on shiaopi.

@onegu was the namecheck or the greencheck posted first? if the rolenamecheck was posted first, it would make me even more suspicious of the "green check" on him, given that the rolename was bound to draw attention in the first place. although i don't think we can put much faith in a green check when it comes from someone completely anonymous in the first place.

anyway we definitely shouldn't lynch shiaopi now. kanti was town's standout strongest power role in aperture 1. if shiaopi is actually a town kanti then scum will absolutely have to kill him tonight. then if he doesn't die tonight we can decide whether to lynch him tomorrow.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 16:30 GMT
#2094
I don't think thats stupid either, remember that he was UP FOR LYNCH VERY SOON guys. The only reason people are considering him not scum is "too stupid to be scum" and it's working perfectly. Claiming it in thread is a very town thing to do so it's casting doubt.
I come in for the scraps
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 02 2013 16:31 GMT
#2095
On September 03 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 01:13 AxleGreaser wrote:
On September 03 2013 01:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
##Vote: Alakaslam

Because why not?


I am getting pretty tired but as i remember things
because you have not and neither has anyone else on Alak explained why he did that as scum.

Note my previous estimates of Alaks capabilities had to be lowered somewhat to get any possibility that as scum or town he would simply shuffle the items in a fit of pique because a town BH got lynched.

But I haven't seen a suggestion I could understand how he or his scum team would have thought his actions were wise as a scum play.

Not sold on Alak being a good lynch at all.


His actions make no sense as town. They make a lot of sense as scum.
Why as scum would he mention the existence of the d6 instead of just using it anonymously? I don't know. But that doesn't change the fact that town would not use it. Why ruin a town plan as town AND possibly let the d6 fall in scum hands.


And the bit you say "I dont know" for is the bit I cant explain easily if hes scum.

He had his last newbie recently... his claim (as town) in that was rather mind boggling.
(not as much as this one)
but if you read through the thread where I said it blew my mind.. I maybe see a towny alak realising ooops.

Clar: Why ruin a town plan as town AND possibly let the d6 fall in scum hands.

a fit of pique?

It seemed epic and he didnt think it through...
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 02 2013 23:47 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 23:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
why even consider martyring yourself?


I realized it would possibly ruin discussion, but I wanted to go with the majority consensus.

Anyways there are a few reasons why.

1) It almost seems like my power was destined for this moment if he is indeed not a 1shot voterigger
2) It would be epic
3) I could post this context enriched video


Being epic plays some part in some decisions

On September 02 2013 18:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh hey who had the broken bell thing, the shattered bell before me? You know how d6 was town. Only way we all get to use it?

Can you confirm so only Koshi hate me plz thank you cya tomorrow if I can pry away from addicting adrenalin rush


I know trying to see if thinking like that is possible hurts... but yeah TBMK a towny Alak might actually just make it go boom to see the bang...




Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
September 02 2013 16:32 GMT
#2096
geript, knowing that you have the ability to start a double lynch, why is it that you didn't activate it day one? If you are town then wouldn't you be worried about night hits that would possibly cause the role to die with you?

Putting together a case one 1-2 people at the moment, not sure if I will post it when I'm done or sit on it for a bit.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 16:33 GMT
#2097
On September 03 2013 01:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't think thats stupid either, remember that he was UP FOR LYNCH VERY SOON guys. The only reason people are considering him not scum is "too stupid to be scum" and it's working perfectly. Claiming it in thread is a very town thing to do so it's casting doubt.


I wrote him off as a scummy troll, and am voting him primarily due to that fact. I barely even read the stuff about the item, lol.

@Alakaslam

You stupid town or stupidly good scum?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 02 2013 16:34 GMT
#2098
On September 03 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
SnB you didn't read my most recent post.

I also have stated since before the game fuck attempting to read Alakaslam and what he is doing/did so if people need me to vote for him I will but I'm not analyzing that shit.


you mean about you and shiao being masoned? you're right i didn't read that before my other post. im not sure if there's any information in there though that makes me change my mind.

what do you think about kitaman's alignment? Should he be lynched?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2013 16:36 GMT
#2099
ShiaoPi what has your role to do with pikachu dying and why did you comment on the matter so much?
If you refer yourself as the messenger, what the fuck?
If not, are you referring to me, in that case, wtf?

You need to explain because nothing in your rolename suggests you have anything to do with pokemons.
table for two on a tv tray
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 02 2013 16:37 GMT
#2100
On September 03 2013 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ShiaoPi what has your role to do with pikachu dying and why did you comment on the matter so much?
If you refer yourself as the messenger, what the fuck?
If not, are you referring to me, in that case, wtf?

You need to explain because nothing in your rolename suggests you have anything to do with pokemons.

this seems pretty obvious
betcha shiao was masoned with the other pokemon person yesterday and he's the "messenger" because his role has something to do with masoning people.

anyway rayn what do you think of kitaman's filter? do you agree with my summary? it's only a few lines, easy to read! but read his whole filter though.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
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