On September 02 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Axle what is your reason for not voting geript?
I believe I am currently not voting anyone My views on his alignment are pretty clear. That he is still AFK is pretty clear. I have been participating and making my thoughts known.... I do admit the item switch thing threw me a bit...
FYI: the people I have pushed today you had better believe I am serious... and unless i get the post more towny stuff now that i have requested will be back to you...
On September 02 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Axle what is your reason for not voting geript?
I believe I am currently not voting anyone My views on his alignment are pretty clear. That he is still AFK is pretty clear. I have been participating and making my thoughts known.... I do admit the item switch thing threw me a bit...
FYI: the people I have pushed today you had better believe I am serious... and unless i get the post more towny stuff now that i have requested will be back to you...
ooops sorry not voting for anyone was the state I thought i was in, it was what I planned to do, when I read the alakaslam thing I just kind of got mind blown and lost it for a while.
its not that i wouldnt lynch HiroPro, or even that I was persuaded by his responses, its more that while i want him to answer questions, today, hes not the only one...
On September 02 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Axle what is your reason for not voting geript?
I believe I am currently not voting anyone My views on his alignment are pretty clear. That he is still AFK is pretty clear. I have been participating and making my thoughts known.... I do admit the item switch thing threw me a bit...
FYI: the people I have pushed today you had better believe I am serious... and unless i get the post more towny stuff now that i have requested will be back to you...
I don't understand any of this.. geript is perfectly capable, even decent, as looking town when he is town. Your suggestion is that he purposely looked like scum so he could rig the votes and make D1 voting patterns unreadable? What purpose does that serve as town? Him giving us doesn't mean he is town.
On a sidenote, Alakaslam looks hella suspicious and should be the other candidate. Anyone who has been reading the thread should not vote for ShiaoPi unless someone CC's him regarding the pokemons or unless i drop dead.
What are your thoughts on Alakaslam? Also what was the point of your post about me, this one:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.
No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them
@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources
Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.
Rayn: Have you played/read other Aperture games? Axle: Nope (not recently enough to remember anything)
Rayn: Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. Axle having just buzzed it while that is kind of what it iswas as they(BM faction) won when they outnumbered ...the sleeper cell nature of them made them rather different to a normal scum team. What they'd be this time is unknown to me... @Rayn Why do you claim to know what it 'is' instead of 'was'? Why dont you wonder how grey might have changed it for this game?
Rayn: And kitaman very well knows that. @Rayn I am not clear how what kitaman very well knows happened in previous games has an effect on your interpretation of what he said?
I think kitaman did not post it did not post what he said about faction because he thought it was a brand a new thought to everyone, but because at least one person on the scum team will have said that in their QT (hence all the scum already know), and there might be (and are) town players like me who have not read aperture (recently enough) to remember anyth9ing about it. I also never played either portal for more than 5 mins, and its been a very long time since I last knew who Black Mesa was. it is thus a net win to tell any townies who dont know(me) the most important stuff from the last games.
So from my point of view anyone pointing out obvious important thematic stuff from aperture games, portal or ... is fine with me. if that offends some players put it in spoiler tagged to the end of useful post. ta.
What were you trying to accomplish with this and when i did not answer you why did you not follow that up in any way?
On September 02 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Axle what is your reason for not voting geript?
I believe I am currently not voting anyone My views on his alignment are pretty clear. That he is still AFK is pretty clear. I have been participating and making my thoughts known.... I do admit the item switch thing threw me a bit...
FYI: the people I have pushed today you had better believe I am serious... and unless i get the post more towny stuff now that i have requested will be back to you...
I don't understand any of this.. geript is perfectly capable, even decent, as looking town when he is town. Your suggestion is that he purposely looked like scum so he could rig the votes and make D1 voting patterns unreadable? What purpose does that serve as town? Him giving us doesn't mean he is town.
My opinions on geript are I think in the thread/filter and fairly clear.
I lynch scum at the end of the day. During the day I find them. That is what I have been doing. Do you believe voting for geript and doing ..... will find scum.
On September 02 2013 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote, Alakaslam looks hella suspicious and should be the other candidate. Anyone who has been reading the thread should not vote for ShiaoPi unless someone CC's him regarding the pokemons or unless i drop dead.
What are your thoughts on Alakaslam?
I have some thoughts. Currently I am waiting to see how it plays out. At some point I would ask questions of people (probably anyone other than alak) as I still don't know exactly what happened. except it was face palm +++ material.
On September 02 2013 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also what was the point of your post about me, this one:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.
No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them
@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources
Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.
Rayn: Have you played/read other Aperture games? Axle: Nope (not recently enough to remember anything)
Rayn: Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. Axle having just buzzed it while that is kind of what it iswas as they(BM faction) won when they outnumbered ...the sleeper cell nature of them made them rather different to a normal scum team. What they'd be this time is unknown to me... @Rayn Why do you claim to know what it 'is' instead of 'was'? Why dont you wonder how grey might have changed it for this game?
Rayn: And kitaman very well knows that. @Rayn I am not clear how what kitaman very well knows happened in previous games has an effect on your interpretation of what he said?
I think kitaman did not post it did not post what he said about faction because he thought it was a brand a new thought to everyone, but because at least one person on the scum team will have said that in their QT (hence all the scum already know), and there might be (and are) town players like me who have not read aperture (recently enough) to remember anyth9ing about it. I also never played either portal for more than 5 mins, and its been a very long time since I last knew who Black Mesa was. it is thus a net win to tell any townies who dont know(me) the most important stuff from the last games.
So from my point of view anyone pointing out obvious important thematic stuff from aperture games, portal or ... is fine with me. if that offends some players put it in spoiler tagged to the end of useful post. ta.
What were you trying to accomplish with this and when i did not answer you why did you not follow that up in any way?
Notice how you claim to know exactly what black mesa IS Whereas my information comes from reading previous games and so onyl know what it iswas.
I could call that a scum/mesa slip... by you. I am pretty sure you were overlooking that Black mesa might well be significantly different this time. Indeed as the setup is meant to be closed, it is probably anything except what it was last time.
Also my suspicion levels of you have not reached level where I think I should do something active about them.
On September 02 2013 17:33 Koshi wrote: THERE IS A SUPERRETARDED ITEM CALLED “THE D6”.
It was very briefly in my fucking possession. I gave away this “The D6” item due to my “Give item” action. So I know 1 out of 2 people should have it. But I know what it is: It shuffles all the items between people holding items. It says it has a 2 turn cooldown, (but it is a 1 turn cooldown actually) because it can be used again on n3.
The item I gave to VA was so perfect for VA. Now some evul scummer might have it ;.;
Fucking totally random item this "The D6".
I haven't read the rest of the thread.
On September 01 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:
If Blazinghand dies, say goodbye to items you have & you get fresh new ones. A.K.A. I messes up your plans regarding items. Because is only threat I can make. Well and other stuff but I can't really control that.
brb banging head on wall
IT WAS KOSHI
THEY STOLE IT FROM US!
And yes, I warned you ppl you blame geript.
2am good night desert fried me see you tomorrow
rayn, what do you make out of this post from Alakaslam? He says us to blame geript. But then in this post:
On September 02 2013 18:18 Koshi wrote: SO WAIT. Scum geript kills BH, so your reaction is insert another cock in towns ass and fucking ruin all other plans?
I was the only one in this thread that had plans about items. AND YOU FUCKED ME.
Also, it seems like you know geript is town or something? How else are you going to blame a possible scum geript for a townie death?
DIE ALAKASLAM DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The hell isn't placing death on a townie scum goal?
He says that geript is scum because he killed a townie. Thus Alakaslam is saying that he ruined town plans because a scummer killed a townie.
Now this makes really 0 sense. I think that Alaksalam as scummer knows that geript is town, and therefore can justify using this item because town killed town and in his mind this justified his action.
The other option is that Alakaslam played like a full on retard. Because if he read the thread and could have known that I was the only guy in the entire thread that was making plays with items to help town.I can see him doing that if he is a dramaqueen and wanted to absorb a shitton of attention to feel important. If he did that, I still want him to die, playing 100% antitown to gain attention should be punished.
Now don't get me wrong, I want both geript and alaksalam to die for using their ability to do MAJOR ANTITOWN actions. But I want to lynch scummers above that.
I mean, a few people have been very vocal about how confirmed scum geript is. I still have my doubts, really. At the very least I think it's safe to say that his voterigging was 1shot. Not sure why people are assuming he'll just do it again this cycle?
You also rob town of discussion day 2. At the very least don't even think about doing it until much later in the cycle. But I don't think you should use it at all during a double lynch, why even consider martyring yourself? There is gonna be what, 6 or 7 scum? Why not find other scum and lynch them and come back to geript later? If we assume scum is perma protecting him, maybe we can flip a scum medic or something. Alakaslam is very very likely to flip scum at this point, and there's a bunch of other lynches that look good. randombum is my choice.
Like look at it this way, geript is likely scum but I have this nagging feeling. His play makes no sense as either alignment. If you martyr yourself to kill you and geript and geript flips town, we are fucked.
On September 02 2013 23:18 debears wrote: Ok. I'll just tell you guys my power and we can decide.
I can nirvana strike someone, meaning the lynch goes between me and them
If the lynch is a double lynch (like now), then we both automatically die.
I don't know what of make of this post. debears, you're pretty good at this game, why would he suggest such a terrible thing?
Eh. You might be overexaggerating a little bit there. Anyways, here is my thought process.
geript was almost unanimously scummy to everyone right?
So he is unlynchable in a normal vote cuz he has vote transfer or something like that.
And he didn't die at night, meaning we have no vig or he has some sort of protection.
If he has sustained protection, I highly doubt it would come from a town source.
So he's likely scum. I can end his life here and now in a situation where we might not be able to kill him.
From my point of view his play is certainly scummy. he even says it is. (intentionally during D1) Even if from some uber power point of view it was worth screwing over D1, since D1 he also has not played townie, and is in IDGAF mode.
I can make some setup specualtion abotu how he cant be scum as that would be unreasonable... but this is aperture. + Show Spoiler +
On September 02 2013 09:54 Hassybaby wrote: Huh....turns out I didn't roll high enough to save VE
Are you the one that made him a noflip?
Nope. At least, I dont think so
How can you not know for sure? Is there something in your role that you don't know about yourself?
Remember that this is an Aperture game. In Aperture 1 I killed a guy because I used my medic card on someone else, so
If killing him was cheap id be in. As for trying to guess another another ordinary lynch would do anything to him. or whether 1 scum kp was blocked(assm 3?) and one of the nk was vig who didnt shoot geript... or ....
Well theres virtually endless that.
Thus on the pros and cons of debears plan I am of the Op I have no idea.
Unless theres some time limit doing it early would be bad. We ought spend what time we can seeing if we can find two scum to lynch.
Bottom line. This is game where people do whatever.... so whatever.
On September 02 2013 23:43 Clarity_nl wrote: why even consider martyring yourself?
I realized it would possibly ruin discussion, but I wanted to go with the majority consensus.
Anyways there are a few reasons why.
1) It almost seems like my power was destined for this moment if he is indeed not a 1shot voterigger 2) It would be epic 3) I could post this context enriched video
On September 02 2013 23:44 Koshi wrote: Eeuhm, geript won't be able to change votes every time, how sick would that be if you would have died last night debears?
On September 02 2013 23:45 Clarity_nl wrote: Like look at it this way, geript is likely scum but I have this nagging feeling. His play makes no sense as either alignment. If you martyr yourself to kill you and geript and geript flips town, we are fucked.
If geripts town and we have town members(who could be and have the skills to be capable) actively(intentionally) playing against us were fucked too.
The fact that debears is considering lynching himself for the sake of town means he is one million percent town. Lynch evil alakaslam and another dude i dont like plz.
EPT
