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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 03 2013 04:15 GMT
#13
/replace

I am in the other newbie, and it's my 4th game.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 03 2013 15:47 GMT
#18
On August 03 2013 21:53 Onegu wrote:
Isnt this your 5th game Alakaslam? NMM XLIII, XLIV, NWM, XLV. So this would be your 5th game correct?

Yes. Other newbie is my fourth
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 16:19:46
August 03 2013 15:50 GMT
#19
Rofl

I am that hard to understand?

I am in other newbie right now
That game is my fourth game on TL {no wait they weren't all newbies so this is accurate}
Therefore Umasi should be able to join. And has been let in, so no need to emphasize this

/replace (as I know for a fact it is my fifth here and likely my sixth as when XLV finishes I'm headed to the first to start of Aperture, Noir, or Hydra, in that order)

XD

Anyway I really had better take a look at composition.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 03 2013 15:54 GMT
#21
On August 04 2013 00:50 Onegu wrote:
Mod font is bolded good to know.

Actually looks pretty cool thin but yes, bolding really helps especially for phone posters like me. Usually we have to zoom in to see anything but if Bold not necessary.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 03 2013 16:08 GMT
#23
On August 04 2013 00:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
I can count Alakaslam. This would be your 5th game. Don't act like I am an idiot if you want to play at all.

I'm not, I'm acknowledging my inability to write. I am agreeing with you.

I never tried to in, check it out! I am fully aware that I am ineligible. In fact I also am pointing out I may become ineligible to replace, and therefore not to rely on it, because I plan on joining other games as well.

I was just trying to point out Umasi's eligibility by saying I would be ineligible for the game I am currently playing if he was ineligible for this.

BTW, if I offended you, we are of one blood, ye and I! For I often have the same perception.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 03 2013 19:37 GMT
#28
On August 04 2013 03:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 01:08 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 04 2013 00:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
I can count Alakaslam. This would be your 5th game. Don't act like I am an idiot if you want to play at all.

I'm not, I'm acknowledging my inability to write. I am agreeing with you.

I never tried to in, check it out! I am fully aware that I am ineligible. In fact I also am pointing out I may become ineligible to replace, and therefore not to rely on it, because I plan on joining other games as well.

I was just trying to point out Umasi's eligibility by saying I would be ineligible for the game I am currently playing if he was ineligible for this.

BTW, if I offended you, we are of one blood, ye and I! For I often have the same perception.


Sorry maybe I can't read either. That's why I suck at mafia.

Even if you do sign up for another one I will probably still let you replace. Replacements are so valuable in newbies that when you find one you never let it go.

Ok.

Besides I'm likely to wait for aperture.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 04 2013 03:23 GMT
#38
On August 04 2013 11:33 iVLosK! wrote:
Me and alakaslam are well aqcuainted.


If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 04 2013 03:24 GMT
#39
On August 04 2013 11:34 Umasi wrote:
hyyyyype
slam we still need to hydra sometime

When this finishes. Hydras not ok in newbies.

Yes we should, somewheres, unlikely in hydra mafia however.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#45
Epic bamcis flavah

Jaedong FTW

Liquid'Hero FTW
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 05 2013 17:10 GMT
#46
DRG FTW

WhiteRA FTW
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 06 2013 02:44 GMT
#57
Smuuuuuurph!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 06 2013 06:42 GMT
#60
On August 06 2013 10:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Just because there's nobody for me to coach doesn't make me any less of a coach!

PS if it turns out you actually are short a coach I can coach scum also

If you coach 3p in a game with no 3p
Does that mean you can coach anyone who asks regardless of alignment?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 06 2013 16:42 GMT
#65
On August 06 2013 17:06 OmniEulogy wrote:
/replacement

no clue if I played 3 or 4 newbie games it's been a long time either way. If you need another player I have the time though ^^

If it's only 3 I'll /in though

Welcome to the club
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 10 2013 23:04 GMT
#104
On August 11 2013 06:49 DeusXmachina wrote:
Okay. I must say, despite my misperceptions of my own performance, the game was still very fun.
/in
Umasi you should stay in. You are uber good. Whats more important? A good education, a bright future, a good job or being UBER AWESOME at mafia? Common, the answer is obvious. Also I want to try and lynch you day one to enact my revenge. Muahahahaha.

Fixed.

Keep putting up reads, understand though that a newbie requires more caution between seeing bad town vs scummy. Remedy? Coaches.

Guys I practically wasted my newbies basically by talking to coaches only when I was in mind-boggling trouble. Don't wait. Mafia is not flying an airplane. You don't learn by flying solo; you learn by BEING TAUGHT or studying. So just pick a random time and piss off your coach before you stop chatting with him/her. (A little hyperbole there). Feel free to quote the thread, ask I something is scummy etc, because this will help you learn how to make reads. I was barely getting by, because of actually all 3 coaches but how Geript helped is a different story (helped depersonalize the game a bit) but basically I would have ceded even faster. If I had sought coaching earlier, I might have avoided a lot of the trouble I created for myself.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 10 2013 23:35 GMT
#106
I created that situation for myself.

That being said


Augh!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 11 2013 00:21 GMT
#107
So reading up filturz

I see vlosk!

I see win such as this


On June 06 2013 13:05 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?
I think that what you're doing is antagonistic. I think that, if you were townie, you'd voice concern about these weak FOS's, try to correct them, and develop reads on us based on that. You didn't correct them....You're asking for votes on you.
That's confusing, and not wise no matter the case.
You wouldn't be poking the fire if you were town, and scum wants to poke the fire. Or at least, you wouldn't have motivation to poke the fire as town, but you would as scum.
If mafia want to sow confusion, why are you doing something I think is scum-like, if you are town?
Since I feel confused, I'm feeling even more of a scum read on you, so my vote rests.

First underline: Ask that other guy from OMGUS who my vote is on. I give literally zero fucks about your FOS's. In my original post where I "excused myself for future scumminess" or whatever, I was simply stating that I'll do what I want regardless of what you think is scummy. If I don't want to vote for a lurker, I won't. And if I feel like voting for a lurker, bet your fine ass that I will. Regardless of what I've said in the past.

Second underline: Maybe you should adjust what you think is "scum-like." I would suggest it, actually. If you and I are going to be friends. I would like to be friends.

Also "since I feel confused, you are therefore scum." is literally the dumbest thing that I have ever heard in my life. And I actually laughed quietly to myself upon reading it.


I can see what Onegu is talking about

And, of course, I see the offsite win too.

This will be fun to keep up on, even if not replace needed yoda
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 02:17:06
August 11 2013 02:16 GMT
#111
On August 04 2013 11:15 Onegu wrote:
If you are unfamilar with iVlosk check out my first game of mafia NMMXLII. I thought he was good times, umasi and xzavier might disagree though. Alakaslam you should like him.

Oh- well, herpaskerp

Be not offended by that which cometh from the ivlosk!. The great abrasive nature of posting does not mean if thou meetest irl that punchings within the face would ensue. Ingame, many shall pull ahead by chucking manners. I choose not to (although I still do anyway at times), but must be ready for those who does. For the chucking of manners is not personal; if it is, why, how does

Like I dunno

It maketh less sense than malice without malice
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 11 2013 16:24 GMT
#118
Hoowooh
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 12 2013 05:16 GMT
#136
On August 12 2013 13:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Can /coach town if need be

On August 12 2013 12:05 Chromatically wrote:
Protip on coaching: make a QT, give it to your coach, and just post whatever you're thinking about there. You never forget to use it, and the coach can comment on whatever he needs to.

Was, is, like, this, the,

Uh

Well.

Faugh
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 12 2013 20:11 GMT
#140
On August 13 2013 03:38 Chromatically wrote:
I thought about posting the QTs after my games but I was a little too embarrassed over some of the things I said...

Better than not doing altogether.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 13 2013 04:49 GMT
#148
Hooh, hooh, time to start watching
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 13 2013 16:21 GMT
#153
On August 13 2013 23:46 Onegu wrote:
When daypost goes up I will send out obs qt, if anyone else wants it PM me

Sure give it to me so that when I replace the player goes from nothing to
ALL POWERFUL GENIE!!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 14 2013 04:22 GMT
#163
On August 14 2013 12:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 12:27 iVLosK! wrote:
When you have a hammer, every nail looks like a solution.


The early cheese gets the bird but the mouse gets the second worm.

I raise you a cat to the second power; call APS it's out. Whole city. Can't even get me my McDonalds or my gasoline.

WHOOOOOOOOUGH!

my... Old... Heh, heh, flaayme?



+ Show Spoiler +
I understand I have posted this. Follow my troll I dare you. None so blind as that which will not see, You do not see this but I SAW THIS EYE! SO I REMOVED THE OTHER EYE! THAT EYE THAT KEPT WINKING AND BLINKING AT OTHER MEN! IT WAS Make, I was ist, irlgh, is, is... Like spike jones from lurkers Chloe.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic
2+2=22 ofc. Therefore 2+2+2=8. Come on, can you not see 1+1=x/0? This is forever twice
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 14 2013 15:35 GMT
#166
On August 15 2013 00:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Still have not gotten confirmation from 3 people. I'm giving then 12 more hours to respond and if they do not respond I will kick them out and open sign-ups again.

Their attempts at love were only imitations of my old flame.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 14 2013 19:36 GMT
#169
On August 15 2013 04:32 LoneMeow wrote:
Better this way than having the game ruined by modkills, I suppose.

Are the non-newbie games as bad when it comes to signing up and then not actually playing?

Far as I can tell no.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 15 2013 00:50 GMT
#176
On August 15 2013 06:49 justanothertownie wrote:
If you still feel the need to boot someone before starting the game I would gladly step in. Otherwise I leave it up to the guys who are over the newbie limit and waiting for their chance (I will obs in this case).

Just / I n my good man.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 15 2013 04:38 GMT
#180
hola que tal

I have responded. I am sorry there weren't enough true newbies. . .
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 15 2013 16:50 GMT
#192
Filterfolk; game didn't start until post after this one.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 15 2013 23:55 GMT
#221
On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?

Rrgh

Yes I get it. I will be more concise when unsure and post better cases and stuff. And I know I'm not usually fun to have around at LYLO, so I will try and see if I can change that this game.

However+ Show Spoiler +
page 35 FTW
Hi reps)squishy
Sorry about last time


This is why please, guys, lynch for info- fine, but when it is clear someone is just playing badly... Lets not hasten to LyLo. (I hate Lylo in case you didn't notice). I think iVLosk! is a great guy to listen to in that case assuming he isn't scum. Doesn't look like scum so far- but skilled scum never do...

He has been helpful however, and I like the point about captain obvious-ing around. If someone asks by all means reply. But let us not waste time clearing up stuff like that, that people should know from reading guides or asking coaches.

So here I am! I'm here off & on for a bit, any questions? I mean, I know it's early but that is kinda my point.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 00:21 GMT
#223
On August 16 2013 09:08 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 08:55 Alakaslam wrote:

So here I am! I'm here off & on for a bit, any questions? I mean, I know it's early but that is kinda my point.

Yes. I am a zergling. Your thoughts?

Is epic, I need an upgrade to mess with you but I can watch you with some energy. I once was a zergling, it was cool. I have been a zealot & stuff

This is like I usually do but there it is, remember what happened when I was active all the time... Even worse if you check out NMM XLV

I shall improve, nightcat need not be right. How can I be useful at Lylo u know.

But what, back to captain obvious bs? Lettuce talk, I wanna see why who is what.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 02:04 GMT
#224
And suddenly no one is here.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 03:20 GMT
#226
On August 16 2013 12:03 Squibbles wrote:
Right? Odd. Backtrackin a bit for Policy, even if you wanted to lynch lurkers, liars, and those who post pointless stuff, should there be a level at which the lynch begins. For example yalls version of Lurking could be completely different from each other, where one might thinking lurking is more than 12 hours another might think a day.... We should establish some context, As far as lying, in any sense what if they are lying because they are unsure about you? Wouldnt that make you both the suspects vs just the person that lied, i think depending on the question there should be a level limit there, and those who post pointless stuff, well if you're dodging a question, you're dodging a question, enough said.

From what I have seen any longer than 8 hours is definitely pushing it.

And I don't think town should lie anyway, truth is easy to remember and getting caught in a lie is tough to explain town or scum- and according to guides, finding scum is a high priority but Priority 1. is stated to be "proving your innocence". Since lying impedes that, no-go IMO. And in the situation where the caught liar implicates his target- no, not really. I say it's WIFOM.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#227
Alright this is directed at everyone.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 03:56 GMT
#228
On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?


If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.

I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.


Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.

Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.

"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)

Fellows, pleeeze!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 05:02 GMT
#231
On August 16 2013 13:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?


If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.

I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.

On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.


Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.

Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.

"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)

Fellows, pleeeze!!


Okay, sounds good. Biggest scum reads so far, Xzavier and reps. Lol at reps if he becomes a day 1 lynch again. Why am I suspicious? Well, they are lurking, and as I previously mentioned, lurking will not be tolerated. Pretty much neutral on everyone. Although, I am leaning slightly town on JAT.

Careful of posting pseudo lurker lists... Look. That is the easies thing for scum to do to try and look town, 1, and 2, if we have vigs, they can shoot into lurkers and we lynch other lurkers till there are none. So it is established that you can't lurk and get by this game. Stating their scumminess other than to explain a vote on them is now irrelevant, lets stick to discussion about actives. Then, before the deadline (close as you can get) vote for a lurker or someone you find scummy- who may have more of a chance turning out to be scum than someone who wanted blue or irl'ed or whatever causes people to do this stuff.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
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August 16 2013 05:13 GMT
#233
On August 16 2013 13:59 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 12:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:03 Squibbles wrote:
Right? Odd. Backtrackin a bit for Policy, even if you wanted to lynch lurkers, liars, and those who post pointless stuff, should there be a level at which the lynch begins. For example yalls version of Lurking could be completely different from each other, where one might thinking lurking is more than 12 hours another might think a day.... We should establish some context, As far as lying, in any sense what if they are lying because they are unsure about you? Wouldnt that make you both the suspects vs just the person that lied, i think depending on the question there should be a level limit there, and those who post pointless stuff, well if you're dodging a question, you're dodging a question, enough said.

From what I have seen any longer than 8 hours is definitely pushing it.


Wow, that's harsh. I guess you don't like sleeping in very much?-)

Personally, I think any hard deadline is a bit pointless and likely leads to zero content "I'm still here!" posts. In fact, I don't care so much at all about the post counts, it's the amount of content that really matters.

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On August 16 2013 13:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
Although, I am leaning slightly town on JAT.


Oh, that's interesting, I'd like to hear your reasoning.

Personally, I'm pretty much null on everyone but slightly wary of iVLosK! - while his "policy" about posting obvious stuff indeed makes a bit of sense in late game it felt like he was trying to stifle what little conversation we were trying to get going at that point, which isn't very pro-town. I have a tendency of misreading players like him though, so I have to tread carefully here.

THANK YOO For elaborating the hidden point! You win a prize

An explanation from me; why did I spam it up all crazy? Because be gone for the first 7 hours of your first game, post photos of your actual dinner in thread to explain, and BAM- scummy lurker reputation and mislynch. Halloooo!

So. Now y'all can see. Lurking isn't cool, but give ppl a bit of a break.

I'd say 24 hours unacceptable. 18 hours wary. 12 hours, eh, annoying.


On iVLosk!- you don't know him, he's like that. He doesn't put up with BS. He is not actually a newb, this is like running into Plexa on some forum he has yet to visit- he looks new but he is an Internet veteran. iVLosk! Is a skilled player and I would hate to lose him as town.

That being said keep an eye on him because I'd hate to be one of his targets...

And Ace, Chezinu, NWM- how they Svengali me! My reads are worth little... But not nothing
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 05:17 GMT
#234
On August 16 2013 14:08 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 14:02 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?


If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.

I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.

On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.


Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.

Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.

"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)

Fellows, pleeeze!!


Okay, sounds good. Biggest scum reads so far, Xzavier and reps. Lol at reps if he becomes a day 1 lynch again. Why am I suspicious? Well, they are lurking, and as I previously mentioned, lurking will not be tolerated. Pretty much neutral on everyone. Although, I am leaning slightly town on JAT.

Careful of posting pseudo lurker lists... Look. That is the easies thing for scum to do to try and look town, 1, and 2, if we have vigs, they can shoot into lurkers and we lynch other lurkers till there are none. So it is established that you can't lurk and get by this game. Stating their scumminess other than to explain a vote on them is now irrelevant, lets stick to discussion about actives. Then, before the deadline (close as you can get) vote for a lurker or someone you find scummy- who may have more of a chance turning out to be scum than someone who wanted blue or irl'ed or whatever causes people to do this stuff.


By the way, we don't have vigs. Read the game setup. Your point is valid though, discussing lurkers (especially this early) is pretty pointless.

Oh yeah, this isn't persona 4- herple diddly skerple xD

Well then yeah like u said its what, half of one real day in. Give them some moar time.

... Yeah. But also, iVLosk not trying to stifle talk, trying to improve talk. Read deus filter anyone?

Deus please elaborate, lurking > lying for scummy? Why should town bother with lies?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 05:55 GMT
#237
On August 16 2013 14:49 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On iVLosk!- you don't know him, he's like that. He doesn't put up with BS. He is not actually a newb, this is like running into Plexa on some forum he has yet to visit- he looks new but he is an Internet veteran. iVLosk! Is a skilled player and I would hate to lose him as town.


I actually do somewhat know his style, we were both in a game with him earlier, and that's why I said I need to be careful on how I read him, since he's a likely misread for me.

Since it seems to be just you and me here, let's talk about something. Your thoughts on Squibbles' first post?

Can you be a little more specific? I thought I addressed it right after it, above my Chloe post...
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 06:01 GMT
#239
On August 16 2013 14:49 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On iVLosk!- you don't know him, he's like that. He doesn't put up with BS. He is not actually a newb, this is like running into Plexa on some forum he has yet to visit- he looks new but he is an Internet veteran. iVLosk! Is a skilled player and I would hate to lose him as town.


I actually do somewhat know his style, we were both in a game with him earlier, and that's why I said I need to be careful on how I read him, since he's a likely misread for me.

Since it seems to be just you and me here, let's talk about something. Your thoughts on Squibbles' first post?

Oh, cool.

Also that is squibs second post on the entire site, reps has taught me to not know what to expect when 100% fresh. That being said seeing iVLosk and knowing him offsite makes me understand that that could mean little with regard to being new.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 06:04 GMT
#240
On August 16 2013 14:56 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 16 2013 12:20 Alakaslam wrote:

And I don't think town should lie anyway, truth is easy to remember and getting caught in a lie is tough to explain town or scum- and according to guides, finding scum is a high priority but Priority 1. is stated to be "proving your innocence". Since lying impedes that, no-go IMO. And in the situation where the caught liar implicates his target- no, not really. I say it's WIFOM.

There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.

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On August 16 2013 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:



On iVLosk!- you don't know him, he's like that. He doesn't put up with BS. He is not actually a newb, this is like running into Plexa on some forum he has yet to visit- he looks new but he is an Internet veteran. iVLosk! Is a skilled player and I would hate to lose him as town.

A veteran, yes. One in possession of much skill, not quite. Much respect though, Slam.



Never even crossed my mind, and I think I see why...

Well ok then! That clears a growing FoS I had toward deus for now.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 06:12 GMT
#246
On August 16 2013 15:05 cDgCorazon wrote:
Another announcement: Voting is done in this thread. There is no separate voting thread. Thank you.

Most ppl are probably going to say "no, thank YOU!", last newbie games I almost posted this vid to express my sentiment but direst not wanna be jerk. Now it would not really be jerk of me because I said so.

Right off the bat

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 06:13 GMT
#248
On August 16 2013 15:10 DeusXmachina wrote:
WIFOM = wine in front of me right?
FoS = ?
Is there a list of this shit I can look at?

I kinda got it by osmosis. Finger of Suspicion.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 06:16 GMT
#250
On August 16 2013 15:11 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 14:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 14:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On iVLosk!- you don't know him, he's like that. He doesn't put up with BS. He is not actually a newb, this is like running into Plexa on some forum he has yet to visit- he looks new but he is an Internet veteran. iVLosk! Is a skilled player and I would hate to lose him as town.


I actually do somewhat know his style, we were both in a game with him earlier, and that's why I said I need to be careful on how I read him, since he's a likely misread for me.

Since it seems to be just you and me here, let's talk about something. Your thoughts on Squibbles' first post?

Can you be a little more specific? I thought I addressed it right after it, above my Chloe post...


You addressed the content itself, but I was more curious of your thoughts of it as a first post. Did it seem like the way a town player would enter the game?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424098

Check my reads.

Why? You are suspicious?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 06:18 GMT
#251
K noting it is 11:20 I have work tomorrow so
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 14:11 GMT
#260
On August 16 2013 20:37 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Because it was mentioned someone did it in one of the last newbie games and because there were 2 townies who fakeclaimed cop in the first game I played.


Ok, I see.

What do you think of this game so far, any reads?

Well I can answer this.

So far, I'm liking iVLosk!. If I were still messed up on the lying thing I would have pushed (perhaps even tunneled) DeusXmachina into the ground based on that. That being said, one rolling scum might implicate the other for the same reason. This is highly unlikely, however, based on iVLosk!'s advice & etc.

So like deus, I'm looking for activity from the current "lurkers", if I don't see what I would like to see by the time I wanna see it? Voting into that. Also I'm considering squibbles a bit of a lurker, he may have actually posted, however he only really made one post and seemingly left. Also, that post was called into suspicion by another player- which will always prick my ears up!

But by his own logic plus lone, and my reply to lone, he's got about 10 hours I guess.

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 17:16 GMT
#267
On August 17 2013 01:08 iVLosK! wrote:
Slam, I know that you and Coag go way back. Would I be safe in assuming that the 4 newbie games you have on this site (and the couple I've seen on OMGUS) are not your only games?

Actually that is all of it. Back when, here upon the vast TL, I noticed certain blog and poll monsters- the author of which was the one to whom we refer. Having recently discovered the private message function, I used it during his comic to say foolish things. Whereupon he told me, "Forsooth, thou shalt attempt the Mafias"- and having not even thought of the games at all recently at the time, thought unto myself, "what is this? For though it seems Starcraft hath a secret society, I need not be tasked with such things as that might be (truly I thought mayhap there were Team Liquid hit men going around) and declined.

Took me until shortly before NMM XLIII to wake up and smell the roses xD
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 21:46 GMT
#271
Hey, uh, town around?

Seems we aren't very active

On August 17 2013 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
Here's the run down so far, yeh it's early but /care

Stuffz going down:

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On August 16 2013 12:03 Squibbles wrote:
Right? Odd. Backtrackin a bit for Policy, even if you wanted to lynch lurkers, liars, and those who post pointless stuff, should there be a level at which the lynch begins. For example yalls version of Lurking could be completely different from each other, where one might thinking lurking is more than 12 hours another might think a day.... We should establish some context, As far as lying, in any sense what if they are lying because they are unsure about you? Wouldnt that make you both the suspects vs just the person that lied, i think depending on the question there should be a level limit there, and those who post pointless stuff, well if you're dodging a question, you're dodging a question, enough said.



Here we have squibbles pointing out what I find to be obvious but what many of us failed to say. He didn't need to backtrack but he did because this is an important point, it isn't beating a dead horse and implies that he'd like further discussion if this arises in the future, I like this guy. Also agrees with not posting bs spam. +++++

Would like to hear more when he's back from work.

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Deus started a bit wishy washy but I'm assuming he is being more aprehensive over the last game where he started with full on aggression against reps.
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On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
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On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?


If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.

I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.

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On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.



I'm liking this post, yet, it seems this game he is going all out aggressive on lurkers. Lurkers annoy me yes but he hasn't really added anything yet in terms of proper content other than elaborating his policy when asked which increases my suspicions of people that are rating him as a town player for now


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Not sure about this lonemeow guy, he has the town mentality sure with stuff like this:

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On August 16 2013 15:26 LoneMeow wrote:
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On August 16 2013 15:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 15:11 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 14:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 14:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On iVLosk!- you don't know him, he's like that. He doesn't put up with BS. He is not actually a newb, this is like running into Plexa on some forum he has yet to visit- he looks new but he is an Internet veteran. iVLosk! Is a skilled player and I would hate to lose him as town.


I actually do somewhat know his style, we were both in a game with him earlier, and that's why I said I need to be careful on how I read him, since he's a likely misread for me.

Since it seems to be just you and me here, let's talk about something. Your thoughts on Squibbles' first post?

Can you be a little more specific? I thought I addressed it right after it, above my Chloe post...


You addressed the content itself, but I was more curious of your thoughts of it as a first post. Did it seem like the way a town player would enter the game?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424098

Check my reads.

Why? You are suspicious?


Okay, I see your track record on figuring out first posts isn't exactly stellar :D

I want to see people talk about each other, because that makes the game much easier to figure out. I consider his first post pretty much null from a completely new player.

On that matter, my reads so far: slightly town on DeusXmachina and Alakaslam, null on the rest.



however he hasn't had to talk about other people so I cannot give a good read on him whatsoever yet. If you read this lonemeow I want your full impressions on iVLosK! and Slam.

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What I am REALLY quizzical about are why people are riding iVLosK!'s dick so fucking hard, he implies he hate's wishy washy bull shit but has provided absolutely 0 content in his posts so far:

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On August 17 2013 01:20 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 12 2013 03:15 iVLosK! wrote:
Has this game started?

Shall I begin the rape?

No, past iVlosK!. Not yet. But soon... very soon.

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On August 16 2013 12:03 Squibbles wrote:
Right? Odd. Backtrackin a bit for Policy, even if you wanted to lynch lurkers, liars, and those who post pointless stuff, should there be a level at which the lynch begins. For example yalls version of Lurking could be completely different from each other, where one might thinking lurking is more than 12 hours another might think a day.... We should establish some context, As far as lying, in any sense what if they are lying because they are unsure about you? Wouldnt that make you both the suspects vs just the person that lied, i think depending on the question there should be a level limit there, and those who post pointless stuff, well if you're dodging a question, you're dodging a question, enough said.


This is Squibbles only game post but I like the content on multiple points.
I spare thee, and await further posts.



This is his only thing that has any merit and it's a line about him agreeing with a post.... like seriously I question the people that lean town on this guy...

Stupid obvious shit 1: + Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 07:41 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 16 2013 07:16 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Because he makes it look like is very experienced and after playing one game this seems odd to me. I would like to know if he is just a show off or actually not really a newbie because it might influence my read on him later on.


If I had to guess I would lean slightly townie on iV because of his aggressive first post (not counting the rap). Although, one post is virtually nothing to go on. Especially the first one. Your guess on iV JAT?

I would argue that the rap was very aggressive. Krizz Kaliko does not fuck around.



Stupid obvious shit 2: + Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 09:08 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 16 2013 08:55 Alakaslam wrote:

So here I am! I'm here off & on for a bit, any questions? I mean, I know it's early but that is kinda my point.

Yes. I am a zergling. Your thoughts?



Stupid obvious shit 3: + Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 01:27 iVLosK! wrote:
Anyway, if Xzavier and reps haven't done anything meaningful by the time the Chiefs game ends tonight, I will lower the boom on whichever I deem most worthy.



For a guy that states he hates people that talk about "stupid obvious shit" he sure is hypocritical. He's also just devolved into talking about lynching lurkers in his last post, again, no content.

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Slam... is slam, but this game he's seemed to get his shit somewhat together:



+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
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On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?


If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.

I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.

On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.


Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.

Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.

"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)

Fellows, pleeeze!!



Confused about his town read on iVLosK obviously and mentioning me over everyone else seems a bit quizzical too as I didn't post much.

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On August 16 2013 14:02 Alakaslam wrote:
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On August 16 2013 13:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:54 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:51 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:46 DeusXmachina wrote:
Liars? Highly unlikely that you would every catch scum lying. Lynch lurkers over liars.


But is there any reason for town to lie? So in the unlikely situation that you DO catch someone lying, you'd still rather lynch a lurker?


If town is lying why would we want to lynch them? Like I said, you probably won't catch scum lying. Lying won't really tell you much. Lurkers > Liars.


Obviously lynching confirmed town because of a lie would be silly, but what about someone most have a weak scum read (or even null) on who's caught lying? Still prefer a lurker lynch over him?

While we're on the topic of lurking, do you think there's any real difference between lurking and posting but being useless? Would you (policy) lynch someone who posts but doesn't have any real content?


If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.

I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.

On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.


Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.

Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.

"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)

Fellows, pleeeze!!


Okay, sounds good. Biggest scum reads so far, Xzavier and reps. Lol at reps if he becomes a day 1 lynch again. Why am I suspicious? Well, they are lurking, and as I previously mentioned, lurking will not be tolerated. Pretty much neutral on everyone. Although, I am leaning slightly town on JAT.

Careful of posting pseudo lurker lists... Look. That is the easies thing for scum to do to try and look town, 1, and 2, if we have vigs, they can shoot into lurkers and we lynch other lurkers till there are none. So it is established that you can't lurk and get by this game. Stating their scumminess other than to explain a vote on them is now irrelevant, lets stick to discussion about actives. Then, before the deadline (close as you can get) vote for a lurker or someone you find scummy- who may have more of a chance turning out to be scum than someone who wanted blue or irl'ed or whatever causes people to do this stuff.



I like this post but by this nature he should also assume that ivlosk is now scummy (after reading my post/his filter), he has a habit of being swayed easily by people who are expressing pro town interests which you all need to watch out for too. Obviously the game is early and you can't read too much into what he is saying so press him lots <3

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JAT hasn't really added anything other than his dislike of fakeclaims, can't read into him at all so would like to hear more from him too, will push him on people when he is around.

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On August 17 2013 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 16 2013 20:37 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Because it was mentioned someone did it in one of the last newbie games and because there were 2 townies who fakeclaimed cop in the first game I played.


Ok, I see.

What do you think of this game so far, any reads?

Not really. I didn't like some posts from Deus and the first one of Squibbles that much but this won't tell me anything. I'm just not a fan of this rather pointless policy discussions. People can talk alot about these things without adding any useful content.
I won't read to much into early contentless posts though. Bad experience last game.


/spoiler]

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I will push people for reads and things if they are around when I post this



I can see where you're coming from there.

Reason I think iVLosk is town is pretty much gauging his personality, and the fact that fluff actually makes a good pool for Svengali play- scum mislynch pushes. So his putting an end to that I saw as good.

But maybe too quick, I didn't expect it to stifle town...

Reps, Xzavier? Whassup? Where be ye?
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August 16 2013 22:44 GMT
#279
On August 17 2013 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 17 2013 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you ask me about those 2 specifically?

Ivlosk: I said earlier I liked his first posts. There isn't anything else to say for me right now. No idea about his alignment.

LoneMeow: Sounds reasonable to me. He brought up the policy thing but someone has to start discussion somehow.


So you liked his rap and pointless posts about being a zergling? Ok sounds reasonable....... Oh wait not really, i want you to filter dive like i have done and specifically point out what it is you like and why

It is irrelevant for now why i picked these 2 people


Slam if you are still here what are your thoughts on deus and JAT?

Dues didn't seem himself and I am suspicious a little. But that was cleared up I think, I've been skimming from work and now that I'm home I'm going to go a little more in depth versus my per usual "tossin' it out there" style.

But immediately I remember the whole Lying thing. I mean we don't wanna be all like "hey scum wassup so like I'm cop he's mason with him and that guy is our tracker", but otherwise I would think inconsistency is pretty much all we have to go on for scum hunting. But remember I sux at this... Not an excuse so much as saying "take me with a grain of salt".
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August 16 2013 22:45 GMT
#282
For the record I got here right when you posted that apparently
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 16 2013 23:08 GMT
#289
Ok at the computer is fun

Look the thread is only actually a few pages long- the game doesn't actually start until page 10. But here is what I notice, and think:

iVLoski may be messing around some- I messed around a lot as town as well, so that's not enough for me but yes, I am aware he could be dangerous scum. I'm Watchin' him and Y'all should too.

But I think your suspicion of him has brought out something interesting Holyflare;

justanothertownie. look at this

On August 17 2013 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 17 2013 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
I'm around.


JAT what is your opinion so far on ivlosk and also I'd like to hear your thoughts on lonemeow


On August 17 2013 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you ask me about those 2 specifically?

Ivlosk: I said earlier I liked his first posts. There isn't anything else to say for me right now. No idea about his alignment.

LoneMeow: Sounds reasonable to me. He brought up the policy thing but someone has to start discussion somehow.


K look at this- What are your reads JAT?!? Holyflare has asked you for your reads, this isn't the clearest thing in the world and seems pretty reserved. I mean, I understand, I can be reserved, but make a stand- if you are wrong, or someone points out it doesn't make sense, admit it and move on- But don't sheep! Make a position and defense it. (<3 WhiteRa)

Speaking of which, Yes Holyflare- I will work on my read on Deus in a minute.
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Alakaslam
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August 16 2013 23:11 GMT
#290
Ebwop actually you did put a null read on Iv.

But please clarify LoneMeow?
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Alakaslam
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August 16 2013 23:17 GMT
#293
Ok. I read Deus as mostly Town. I agree on lurker lynching, but also think perhaps he has been putting forward a few odd ideas- the early lying policy talk etc. Sometimes you have to keep your cards to your chest, yes, but I don't think anyone was talking about trying to be super open rather than when someone is caught in a lie, heavy suspicion. Seems a universal trend, and Deus+iVLosk! strongest supporters of that idea.

However, most of his filter looks too town for the above to be more than early mistakes like we all made.

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August 16 2013 23:20 GMT
#294
On August 17 2013 08:15 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 08:08 Alakaslam wrote:

Look the thread is only actually a few pages long- the game doesn't actually start until page 10. But here is what I notice, and think:

iVLoski may be messing around some- I messed around a lot as town as well, so that's not enough for me but yes, I am aware he could be dangerous scum. I'm Watchin' him and Y'all should too.

I'm hurt babe. I've already examined all of your filters earlier today while waiting for a truck to come in to the warehouse.

Well what, I mean, I played along- wait a minute.

So Holyflare, why didn't I get any fire for playing along with iVLosk? Did you notice that I posted about "Watching him with 75 energy" & stuff? & "Can't touch him without an upgrade"?

But then I was all iVLosK! the professional scum, and look who Holy tries to lynch.

Dang it everyone scummy again, Please xplain ppl.

Especially you Holyflare? Was that a meta blind eye or ?
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August 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#299
On August 17 2013 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 17 2013 08:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:15 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:08 Alakaslam wrote:

Look the thread is only actually a few pages long- the game doesn't actually start until page 10. But here is what I notice, and think:

iVLoski may be messing around some- I messed around a lot as town as well, so that's not enough for me but yes, I am aware he could be dangerous scum. I'm Watchin' him and Y'all should too.

I'm hurt babe. I've already examined all of your filters earlier today while waiting for a truck to come in to the warehouse.

Well what, I mean, I played along- wait a minute.

So Holyflare, why didn't I get any fire for playing along with iVLosk? Did you notice that I posted about "Watching him with 75 energy" & stuff? & "Can't touch him without an upgrade"?

But then I was all iVLosK! the professional scum, and look who Holy tries to lynch.

Dang it everyone scummy again, Please xplain ppl.

Especially you Holyflare? Was that a meta blind eye or ?


I have played a game with you and have become pretty clear on your spam and contribution posts, you have actually posted reads and are willing to entertain scenarios, much like i am, that can force information out of people. While yes you have spam you also have useful bits of info. Ivlosk has really nothing in his favour so far, not that I am totally accusing him but I do not like hypocrisy and he has not contributed YET. This is still obviously early and I'd like to hear more from him.

A.K.A. yes. Try not to do that too much though, although it is true, more games are available for my meta than most newbies so I guess cheating in that sense regarding me is ok xD. In fact it may be all I have to go on at Lylo.

Me too on hear more from iVLosK!

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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 00:15 GMT
#302
On August 17 2013 09:07 DeusXmachina wrote:
Lets entertain a scenario. Reps or Xzavier are completely aware that the game has started and are intentionally not posting. They don't feel any real pressure so they aim to do several things:

A) Contribute nothing to increase the chances of a no-lynch day 1
B) Contribute nothing to avoid mistakes or posts that could get them unwanted attention.
or the less likely
C) Play a lurker roll so their scum buddy can bus them.

How easy would it be to drop in and say, "oh sorry guys I couldn't post because.... blah.. blah.. blah...". Some of you are already assuming that they are just afk.

Why are we tolerating lurkers?




I haven't voted yet, but I agree- however flare pointed out that when the time comes we'll go after them if they are still lurking near deadline. For now, we focus on actives because that's where it's at.
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August 17 2013 00:29 GMT
#305
On August 17 2013 09:19 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 17 2013 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
I'm around.

This one liner is pretty funny. It's like I am not a Lurker ahhh!!!

I as far as who we lynch always the most obvious person day1. If you don't have a super obvious person day 1 go lurker. And as the games go on Liars over Lurkers. Some people have alot of IRL stuff going on but if they don't contribute they need to go.

As far as Alakaslams videos and iVLosK!'s rap + Show Spoiler +
Holla-Holla-Loo-Yuh
I am Mafia's big swinging ding-a-ling, make 'em sing.
Holla-Holla-Loo-Yuh
I am everything you ever were afraid of.
Holla-Holla-Loo-Yuh
I am Mafia's big swinging ding-a-ling, make 'em sing.
Holla-Holla Loo-Yuh
Yeah, you rappers bore me, I wanna kill you
Do it for me and I'll holla-holla.

I do mind it very much. But when it gets repetitive I will not tolerate it.

Hiya! Glad you're here.

Have you listened to Chloe? The most relevant stuff is up to 0:55 and the most relevant part follows immediately.

"You DON'T say!"
"WHERE ARE YOU YOU OLD BAT"

It's my lurker siren. Better than a list post, as it's more personal. A fast way to state my opinion on it.

As for page 35 FTW type stuff I promise not to do that unless you seem like you are actually scum this time. Also, the lynch style is different. So we are more encouraged to stick to our guns.

And believe me, I am trying hard to tone it down but I get the juices flowing... I mean really I can be nuts like 3 vids one page & stuff. I promise to not do that here.

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 00:31 GMT
#306
But moving on from all that. What do you think? Town & scum, who is who? How far have you read? (There's really only 7>pages)
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 00:44 GMT
#309
On August 17 2013 09:38 DeusXmachina wrote:
I am growing suspicious of iV. The way he handled holy's pressure seems scummy. He seemed more interested in discrediting Holy than actually contributing.

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On August 17 2013 09:09 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:49 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:04 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Hm? I meant the posts he listed.
Relying on modkills for lurkers is really scummy btw. Good thing you say you would vote them if they keep lurking Holyflare.

D' Oh.


On August 17 2013 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
All his posts are pretty much non contributory. I genuinely think reps is afk if he hasn't posted yet, no idea about xzavier but it frustrates me, if they don't talk at all it's a double modkill and therefore we should focus on the people who are talking. I swear to god if another bs lurker happens like last game with a post a day I'm voting them off straight anyway

I think this is the post JAT is referencing above. I noticed it too.


I like you drawing attention to this, oh it's scummy to avoid lurkers but then say you want to do the anti lurker thing, seriously? I mean what the hell i don't know if you two are trying to set me up but until the lurkers actually do something talking about them is 100% anti town by way of wasting time. Of course we will lynch lurkers if nobody is under any real suspicion do not be stupid.

I'm not sure I ever said it was scummy to avoid lurkers. So you've lost me.


JAT is saying it's scummy and you said "i noticed it too"?


"I noticed it" =/= "this is scummy". It's sorta more like what you're doing. Putting together a case on me without actually voting me. Read D1 of my first game on this site. I don't like that shit and happily lynch people who do it.



This is a good example. Attacks holy and contributes nothing to town.

Ok. But I say be wary of conclusion jumping, see what does he say that would contribute? Defending is null, not scummy. How do you establish your innocence if you don't defend when attacked? I didn't realize this another game and refused to defend vs. Hurricane sponge on principle and starte attacking people to defend myself...

... I was almost lynched, and I talked to a coach and he basically said why the hell would you ever not defend- and that defense was the only reason I wasn't lynched.

PRIORITY 1: ESTABLISH YOUR OWN INNOCENCE

hi
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 00:49 GMT
#310
That being said yes he could go about it differently. But iVLosk is not aLaKaSLaM or Umasi or Hurricane sponge or Hzflank, he is iVLosk!

The butt doctor

And discrediting a player's statements can be a good thing to do. (Eg HolyFlare being scum- haven't ruled that out). If the statement hasn't got merit it should be discredited, right?

Disclaimer: do I agree with iVLosk? Possibly. I need to weigh it all.
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 00:53 GMT
#314
On August 17 2013 09:49 reps)squishy wrote:
I read all pages so far. I am suspicious of iV. He believes in lynch all liers and also stated town has plenty of reasons to lie. Is it me or does that seem a little scummy.
Proof.
1.
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On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


2.
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There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.

(Blinks)

Reps, thou hast grown

That is straight up pretty good, iVLosk what say thou? Must convince me to move my
##Vote: iVLosK!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 00:54 GMT
#315
On August 17 2013 09:51 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 09:49 reps)squishy wrote:
I read all pages so far. I am suspicious of iV. He believes in lynch all liers and also stated town has plenty of reasons to lie. Is it me or does that seem a little scummy.
Proof.
1.
On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


2.
There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.

Read it again. You fucked up.

Oh rofl

##Unvote

First post sarcastic
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#320
On August 17 2013 10:01 DeusXmachina wrote:
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On August 17 2013 09:54 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 09:53 reps)squishy wrote:
I am sorry I don't see where I "fucked up".
Please point it out.

On August 17 2013 09:49 reps)squishy wrote:
I read all pages so far. I am suspicious of iV. He believes in lynch all liers and also stated town has plenty of reasons to lie. Is it me or does that seem a little scummy.
Proof.
1.
On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


2.
There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.


I've bolded the obvious sarcasm for those unable or unwilling to keep up.


Seems more egotistical than sarcastic.

Indeed! But it is both.
So it remains sarcasm... Read the context.
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 01:22 GMT
#322
Sigh...
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 01:22 GMT
#323
Well is it really our fault no one is talking?
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 01:29 GMT
#325
On August 17 2013 10:23 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 10:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Well is it really our fault no one is talking?

Nah man, it's cool. Wait and see what they come up with in the QT.

Rofl

It can't be us versus a whole town of scum. Or you mean it's deus, reps, & flare?
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Alakaslam
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August 17 2013 01:38 GMT
#327
On August 17 2013 10:32 iVLosK! wrote:
Mostly a joke. But people attempting to make something of nothing is obvious scum mentality, somebody just trying to find SOMETHING to say and accuse someone. That's why I had to get firm with the two of them (reps and deus) for a second..

... Very well.

I am lost there you reprimanded them somewhere?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 01:42 GMT
#330
You

What

West coast man

My brother still has our local newspaper with Jerry rice on the front page and you seriously prefer the-

Oh

Sarcasm conga

I mean I don't even follow football but, please say you are not happy sf is losing.

Wait

This is not ok

Do not talk about off topic stuff

Suffice to say this? You are in good mood or bad? Am lost
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 01:53 GMT
#333
Whaaaat

Naway

But thou movest in with us khalifornians? To go hang with Hawaii?

Crap I said I wouldn't do this
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 02:20 GMT
#336
On August 17 2013 11:08 iVLosK! wrote:
We in Kansas tend to look at California with a mixture of disdain, pity, and confusion. Even more so outside the city.

Seems they know our politics well.
/can't saytoomuch online


Yeah. County by county it gets nuts, but it's a great state.

Gun in the truck? CA; Huge fine, gotta register all over the place etc. unless you have a good reason, and obey tons of statutes to do it legally when you have said reason
AZ: dude laughs at me calls me paranoid

enough potassium to destroy an office building? CA; "Move along, move along". AZ: "excuse me. What is the load you're carrying?" ... "I see you are with a fertilizer company. I think you had better tell me what you're carrying son." ..." Ok good. What for?" ... "Ok. ID?" ... "Thank you. Go."

And AZ gets a bad rap. Hmm. I think it is just different priorities.

So back to mafia: what is who is scum and why isn't anyone else talking?
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Alakaslam
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August 17 2013 02:47 GMT
#339
On August 17 2013 11:31 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 11:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 17 2013 11:08 iVLosK! wrote:
We in Kansas tend to look at California with a mixture of disdain, pity, and confusion. Even more so outside the city.

Seems they know our politics well.
/can't saytoomuch online


Yeah. County by county it gets nuts, but it's a great state.

Gun in the truck? CA; Huge fine, gotta register all over the place etc. unless you have a good reason, and obey tons of statutes to do it legally when you have said reason
AZ: dude laughs at me calls me paranoid

enough potassium to destroy an office building? CA; "Move along, move along". AZ: "excuse me. What is the load you're carrying?" ... "I see you are with a fertilizer company. I think you had better tell me what you're carrying son." ..." Ok good. What for?" ... "Ok. ID?" ... "Thank you. Go."

And AZ gets a bad rap. Hmm. I think it is just different priorities.

So back to mafia: what is who is scum and why isn't anyone else talking?

Gun in the truck? Kansas: No reaction because there's a gun in every truck in Kansas.

reps looks like shit for:

EDITING HIS FUCKING POST
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 09:19 reps)squishy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
I'm around.

This one liner is pretty funny. It's like I am not a Lurker ahhh!!!

I as far as who we lynch always the most obvious person day1. If you don't have a super obvious person day 1 go lurker. And as the games go on Liars over Lurkers. Some people have alot of IRL stuff going on but if they don't contribute they need to go.

As far as Alakaslams videos and iVLosK!'s rap + Show Spoiler +
Holla-Holla-Loo-Yuh
I am Mafia's big swinging ding-a-ling, make 'em sing.
Holla-Holla-Loo-Yuh
I am everything you ever were afraid of.
Holla-Holla-Loo-Yuh
I am Mafia's big swinging ding-a-ling, make 'em sing.
Holla-Holla Loo-Yuh
Yeah, you rappers bore me, I wanna kill you
Do it for me and I'll holla-holla.

I do mind it very much. But when it gets repetitive I will not tolerate it.


EBWOP: Correction I don't mind it. Also I am not to fond of constant one liners or posts that are not constructive


"I fucking mind you coming in and WASTING the very first post of the game (which was totally going to be filled with more useful scumhunting) with a bomb-ass rap song... EBWOP: Wait, I don't mind. So this post is just filler now."

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 09:49 reps)squishy wrote:
I read all pages so far. I am suspicious of iV. He believes in lynch all liers and also stated town has plenty of reasons to lie. Is it me or does that seem a little scummy.
Proof.
1.
On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


2.
There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.


He's suspicious of me because he caught me contradicting myself. Okay. I, of course, made it clear that the above was plain sarcasm.

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 10:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Welp that clears my suspicion of you, Sorry. iVLosK! who do you think is suspicious?


And he's done. He's made his D1 contribution and wants to know what others think now. Reps, you claim to hate one-liners and lurkers, but if you take away your first real post (and you did, with that EBWOP), that's about all that you've done here. As it is, you just moved a step up on my "To lynch" list and Deus is going up there with you for immediately jumping on the first wagon he could find when he had just been talking about pressuring lurkers 15 minutes earlier.

There are border patrol stations in Kansas?
... Why?

And oh man iVLosK!, careful there. You may wanna check out the game to which I refer with "page 35 FTW"....

These aren't scum tells with reps.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 05:01 GMT
#343
On August 17 2013 13:07 iVLosK! wrote:
Didn't realize the joke dealt strictly with border patrol. Mine would be WYCO cops.

Which game is that, boss?

NMM XLV.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 05:06 GMT
#344
On August 17 2013 13:36 DeusXmachina wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 17 2013 01:16 Squibbles wrote:
I can see where the suspicion might lie and the implications of me being a lurker. I run PST and do work so my main times where I will be extremely active will be after 4:30, although I am reading up on all the posts throughout the day. If there are any questions of me feel free to ask, I am rather new so I getting use to all the terminology and what not. So far judging by the posts I am leaning town on deus but I cannot be certain and null for everyone else. It's too early for me to make an educated guess when the majority of people have yet to really reveal intentions. I'm thinking the larger players have been talked about a bit more, meaning they will always be under scrutiny, but that only helps them if they are scum. Only making that of note, not implying anything.



I went back and read Squibb's posts and one line stuck out to me. This seems overly defensive. Slam passively called him a lurker but did not pursue it. There was not any real suspicion on Squibbs, yet he felt it necessary to defend himself. Squibb's could you elaborate on why you felt it was necessary to preemptively defend yourself, please.


Interesting to note. I do want to see his reply, Squibbles also what are you doing of late, are you afk, reading the thread, filter diving? This game is a lot of time investment be aware.
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 05:10 GMT
#345
Well actually I should do as deus is doing.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#375
Good morning everyone. I agree with Holyflare's stance first of all
##Vote: Xzavier
As a placeholder.

However the squibbles voting is intriguing. It is a policy lynch based on what may be IRL circumstances. Is there actually something wrong with his posting, other than the lack of it?

If not, may want to reconsider...
... As according to his own deadlines, he will likely be modkilled. It is 9:15 on the west coast.

Any better reasons though? As the same goes for Xzavier... So if squib is preferable guess what
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Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 16:22 GMT
#376
Indeed, iVLosK! Looks bad after reading up on HolyFlare, but are there enough reasons to voteswitch? Shall he defense hisself?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 16:23 GMT
#377
On August 17 2013 14:15 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:10 Alakaslam wrote:
Well actually I should do as deus is doing.


Sleeping?

Haha yes
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August 17 2013 16:30 GMT
#383
On August 17 2013 16:08 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 09:49 Alakaslam wrote:
That being said yes he could go about it differently. But iVLosk is not aLaKaSLaM or Umasi or Hurricane sponge or Hzflank, he is iVLosk!

The butt doctor

And discrediting a player's statements can be a good thing to do. (Eg HolyFlare being scum- haven't ruled that out). If the statement hasn't got merit it should be discredited, right?

Disclaimer: do I agree with iVLosk? Possibly. I need to weigh it all.


Why are you softly defending (and buddying up to) another player again? Didn't you learn from what happened in the last game with Umasi? Please keep an open mind, so far anyone in this game could be scum.

I still think you're town though. Who's your current best scum read?

Yaknow what?

I'm gonna answer this soon, but I could vote iVLosk.

I just realized my meta has been pretty stupid because one game I was scum and not paying as much attention to him and the other...

Dude he was the cohost xD

So him looking badass as a cohost helped me think him being badass and bombastic here was townie. Also, he has been invoking House of Chezinu upon me; talked about Kansas and gun in the truck & stuff & Chezinu had me totes swindled with his bank and his Father being Ace and needing psychoanalysis & etc., such as I refused vote him

Shall not fall for that mistake again

IVLosk what hast thou to say?
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 16:43 GMT
#385
On August 18 2013 01:29 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Good morning everyone. I agree with Holyflare's stance first of all
##Vote: Xzavier
As a placeholder.

However the squibbles voting is intriguing. It is a policy lynch based on what may be IRL circumstances. Is there actually something wrong with his posting, other than the lack of it?

If not, may want to reconsider...
... As according to his own deadlines, he will likely be modkilled. It is 9:15 on the west coast.

Any better reasons though? As the same goes for Xzavier... So if squib is preferable guess what


When I dropped my vote on Squibbles I was fully expecting him to speak up before the deadline as he had said he's reading the thread during EU daytime. Now that it looks like he might be modkilled/replaced just like Xzavier I'm fully prepared to switch.

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Indeed, iVLosK! Looks bad after reading up on HolyFlare, but are there enough reasons to voteswitch? Shall he defense hisself?


I'm fully prepared to switch to iVLosK! - as I've stated he seems to be suspiciously timid compared to his style in XLII and the point about not bringing much content that Holyflare brings up has merit.

Also, now that you're here, can I have a few reads from you?

Reps), iVLosk, and Squibbles, in no particular order, are varying ranges of scummy and townie.

Reps) may have a hard time contributing more than he has but one thing I thought was cool about being scum was the potential to look stronger town than usual. However, I don't think noticing stuff like that is the particular sort of thing he would be "empowered" to notice, but then if scum it's the perfect play;

Points out slight falsehood, but in that false context incredibly scummy thing
Gets some attention
IVLosk points out falsehood
All suspicion cleared

Free towncred, profit

Of course this would be in tandem with iVLosk, I'm not convinced entirely yet on him but leaning scummier by the minute, and squibbles is the only other one that makes sense that has posted. Fwiw Xzavier could be this game's sc_a.M; game thrower scum. So the above, though felt quite strongly, has that caveat.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 16:46 GMT
#386
As far as their "townieness", lets back off for a minute.

We all make mistakes. Everything reps has said could be said from a town perspective. Indeed he was town last game and was far scummier there.

IVLosk may be simply bringing an OMGUS.net playstyle to a TL.net game, and finding that the new batch of TL players doesn't appreciate it.

Squibbles might have been dumped last night and just not thinking about mafia.

Xzavier got dumped too.
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August 17 2013 17:05 GMT
#390
On August 18 2013 01:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:46 Alakaslam wrote:


Squibbles might have been dumped last night and just not thinking about mafia.

Xzavier got dumped too.

What?
Is this based on anything or just a (stupid) speculation?

No sir. Their grandmothers died, they died, they got fired, they irl'ed out on us basically

Day[9] FTW
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:06 GMT
#392
On August 18 2013 02:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Why is this town so inactive? What happened to Deus for example? Is it the timezone? Deadline is in one hour if I'm not mistaken so people should start posting!

I will definitely second this.

If I am right in my suspicions, IVLosk should be first lynch. If I am wrong we really shouldn't lynch any of them ofc.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#396
We don't have much time and our afk ppl will probably modkills
##Unvote
##Vote: iVLosK!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#400
On August 18 2013 02:48 DeusXmachina wrote:
##Vote: iVLosK!

K. We're you around or did you just get back? I had to get ready for stuff btw, have to go soon, won't see flips till later so I understand, I hope
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#403
On August 18 2013 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Man I don't like this...

Rrrgh

5 minutes people srsly

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:58 GMT
#404
On August 18 2013 02:56 DeusXmachina wrote:
Sorry guys. I couldn't be around this morning. Read the thread. Although I don't completely agree with Holy stance against iV, everyone else seems convinced. Not sold on squibbs. I would rather vote Xzavier but that is clearly not going to happen. Fuck I might change my vote. iV seems to aggressive/antagonistic to be scum.

Ok fast fast fast why vote modkill
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:59 GMT
#405
Fast!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:59 GMT
#407
On August 18 2013 02:59 justanothertownie wrote:
I thought he wasn't as antagonistic as I would expect according to the description of others about his play. He also didn't defend himself at all...

He might not have been here
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 17:59 GMT
#408
I have bad feeling
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:00 GMT
#411
Why is everyone afk TT
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
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August 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#415
##Unvote
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Alakaslam
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August 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#417
On August 18 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Why didn't you say that earlier?

He wasn't ere
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#419
Well I miSsed it then who I have negative a minute o vote
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#420
Plurality deus
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
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August 17 2013 18:03 GMT
#421
I can't be another modkill ##vote iVLosK!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:05 GMT
#424
##Unvote
##Vote Xzavier
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:06 GMT
#425
Rofl here we are post deadline vote dancing and there are like 5 modkills floating around
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#426
Y deus
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#427
I mean I agree with you this looked like town at first but realized my meta is wonky xD
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 00:39 GMT
#499
On August 18 2013 09:10 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 08:43 Malongo wrote:
HIHIHI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so who am I replacing??!!



Cake pie FTW, rofl wow a lot while I've been gone.

TT koshi, thanks for the compliment. But when the juices get flowing I get emotional. I didn't feel good about the iVLosk wagon, and Chezinu was at work within me via IVLosk himself and Deus- I tunnel much FTL last game. Page 35 FTW. Offsite, iVLosK! Is bamcis epic bamcis awesomes, but yes it is dumb to let chezinuz swindle me.

That being said I really should know better... I should have stuck with the iVLosk vote even if I felt bad about it as it was the only lynch that made sense to me at the time.

Going to look at stuff, I don't recommend talk at night ( Indio jones)

Will answer queries though
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 00:48 GMT
#500
On August 18 2013 05:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok, so seriously. Those 3 people on Xzavier. Why the fuck would you vote on a 0-poster?

HolyFlare had reasons, but they were invalid by the time I did. I was feeling like the iVLosk lynch was ominously bad when deus came in last minute. Well, I forgot that last minute voteswitches are inherently scummy... And therefore here is my light FoS on deus. Because I wanted to see why. And he didnt really tell me and then mods said no more.

Well... Take or leave...
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 00:53 GMT
#501
On August 18 2013 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 08:08 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 18 2013 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:49 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up

Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well.


Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out.

so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though

I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently.

I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now.

And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody.

As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town.
JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment
slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again.

I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier.





I like how you ignore everything I've said the entirety of the game just to focus on the person I put my vote on. It was my girlfriends birthday today (went out yesterday for it/party today) so I left my vote on the safest person so far. If he posted once and voted he'd be still in the game and I would NOT be alright with that, I would 100% not be alright with wasting 2 days just so we could fucking waste another day talking about him and wasting the day on him.


That's a pretty massive issue.... the objective isn't to find the safest person to vote for and then do it as town.....

Your reason of not wanting to get rid of somebody who might contribute doesn't work in this case. Xzavier had literally not made a single post, was very likely to be modkilled and you had stronger feelings against another player but you kept your vote on him because it was safer? Am I reading that right? Safer for what? Town on D1 doesn't need to worry about what the safe vote is. if you wanted to be safe why didn't you just ##Vote:No-Lynch instead of putting it on somebody who wouldn't defend himself.

I'm fairly certain I just got that last part wrong, would a mod be kind enough to tell me/us what the correct format is to vote for a no-lynch? Thanks!



I am confused why Xzavier WAS voted off though when the 2 votes were placed after the deadline........


We didn't even have enough votes against him. It wasn't a vote off. He was modkilled. They just said he got lynched in the end of day post.


No, it's a plurality lynch system, whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is voted off not majority, I've even stated that before and so did somebody else earlier when you said we needed more people.


Hi. Dang it. This game has so been



With all that inactivity bs and whatnot.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 01:03 GMT
#502
Just a note. Why koshi go from "why were you guys voting iVLosk"

... To this?

Cherry pick town mistakes and push agenda and what? Why is he trying so hard to make me look bamcis? When did I ever have skill? I mean, I'm trying to pick it up but man, what you prefer, true spam so you know I sux or this somehow "still spammy" reserved style? You gonna push the LS meter to 110%

On August 18 2013 08:34 Koshi wrote:
guis guis guis. No worries.

Just remember. Need to kill Alaksalam,Holyflare, DeusXmachina or iVLosK. Just kill the one that is the most useless day 2.

Alaksalam knows better than to create such a shit environment and to do 0 scumhunting the entire game. And I am certain he knows that voting a 0 poster is horrible. His biggest contribution were giving out general advice. It is a newbie game but I don't like it.

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2013 01:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Indeed, iVLosK! Looks bad after reading up on HolyFlare, but are there enough reasons to voteswitch? Shall he defense hisself?

I would rather get rid of the guy that says nothing than the person who can defend himself and (hopefully) contribute.

You need to get rid of scum. Not of guys that can't defend themselves. Especially when they flip town most likely.

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 06:17 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 18 2013 05:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok, so seriously. Those 3 people on Xzavier. Why the fuck would you vote on a 0-poster?

He did flip scum. Umadbro?

This guy is trying to WIFOM me and I don't like it.

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:00 DeusXmachina wrote:
Yeah don't vote modkill I get it

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:03 DeusXmachina wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Xzavier

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:01 DeusXmachina wrote:
4 votes and we need 5

5 spamposts in the same minute these are 3 of it. He knows he shouldn't vote for a modkill. He votes for the modkill. And then he says it is majority lynch when it is plurality. So bad it hurts my soul.


iV and Alaksalam should be lynched next time unless magic happens on day 2. The other 2 follow closely.



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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 05:30 GMT
#516
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 05:37 GMT
#517
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
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August 18 2013 05:38 GMT
#518
Translation: be wary at night. I will now be silent.

Indio jones

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United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 06:00 GMT
#521
On August 18 2013 14:45 LoneMeow wrote:
I was so happy that Alakaslam wasn't being... Alakaslam earlier, but it seems he devolved back to himself

Do you realize how much I hate it that instead of reading what you want to say in less than half a minute I have to pause my music, watch some shitty video for a few minutes, then try to guess if you actually were trying to say something with it or if it was just spam?

I put a translation and also u r ignoring it why
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August 18 2013 06:00 GMT
#522
And yes the juices flow, even now
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
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August 18 2013 06:02 GMT
#523
I phone post often, it is outside my paradigm to think ppl would listen to music during mafia.

Therefore I apologize. But you are right...

... I never post videos with no meaning.
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August 18 2013 06:05 GMT
#524
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Alakaslam
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August 18 2013 14:34 GMT
#527
It will be a while before day post but I will be gone

Koshi may be right, but I'm not exactly a fan of nighttime confirming towns either

DeusXmachina has been looking bad
IVLosk, well looks like he is in same boat as me, I say give him a chance- which we will 2morrow (which comes in 5 hours xD)
HolyFlare looks o.k. But only o.k.
Finally, I would be suspect of justanothertownie.

End night gutreads
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Alakaslam
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United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#530
On August 19 2013 01:39 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 23:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
3 hours and 17 minutes left for those night actions! All of them sent so far have been confirmed.

I didn't receive a confirmation on the NK I sent.

Hehehe

"Ja, ja, iVLosk totes skumz yo hehehe"

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 18 2013 20:08 GMT
#547
Sigh... That vote was really stupid.

Deus man, why didn't you answer me.

I should have stayed on iVLosk or something.

Man I don't know what to make of the game yet, I have those gut reads but I want to back them up. I can't this calendar day but I will be back during this day phase (tomorrow). Stuff hast come up.

Man the consternation, watch me go from being a scumread to 100% scum just because I'm gone. That is exactly what happened to vlosk and probably why I felt bad about it- and that may actually go for deus.

What, must I be the town voice of caution or are we to go nuts lynching our own. Last couple games scum wins go figure.

But yeah srsly vlosk defend even just a little while I'm gone plz.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 05:09 GMT
#570
On August 19 2013 13:18 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 10:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Pages 27-29 are almost exclusively filled with connection theories. And poor ones. A connection theory where the theorist doesn't know the alignment of both subjects is complete shit.

... And useless fluff used to appear contributory.

Also, apparently I'm supposed to respond to something. If you quote it, I might.

Hi I'm back

Read Holyflare's filter

But basically I need to help convince town we aren't scum team because I went and was an idiot and got wishy washy

The juices flow

Ok so I voted vlosk because he hasn't been explicitly helpful, and then I remembered my meta impression of him was fallacious...

Then I get the juices of reservation flowing and lo and behold deus is reserved too and I think to myself "I was reps hammer last time and in the event iVLosk is messing around to later be bamcis town he would be a great loss as a mislynch crap crap what we do now" and he voted Xzavier and I remembered HolyFlare and was like "oh yeah" and I was in hurry like 5 minutes from deadline so I just did it was not thinking straight and boom.

So scummy like "ok let's bus vlosk and then not do it lol and since I think he is so bamcis I should just not make sense" or I don't even know what my scum motive for that mistake is.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 05:30 GMT
#575
On August 19 2013 14:26 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 19 2013 13:18 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 19 2013 10:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Pages 27-29 are almost exclusively filled with connection theories. And poor ones. A connection theory where the theorist doesn't know the alignment of both subjects is complete shit.

... And useless fluff used to appear contributory.

Also, apparently I'm supposed to respond to something. If you quote it, I might.

Hi I'm back

Read Holyflare's filter

But basically I need to help convince town we aren't scum team because I went and was an idiot and got wishy washy

The juices flow

Ok so I voted vlosk because he hasn't been explicitly helpful, and then I remembered my meta impression of him was fallacious...

Then I get the juices of reservation flowing and lo and behold deus is reserved too and I think to myself "I was reps hammer last time and in the event iVLosk is messing around to later be bamcis town he would be a great loss as a mislynch crap crap what we do now" and he voted Xzavier and I remembered HolyFlare and was like "oh yeah" and I was in hurry like 5 minutes from deadline so I just did it was not thinking straight and boom.

So scummy like "ok let's bus vlosk and then not do it lol and since I think he is so bamcis I should just not make sense" or I don't even know what my scum motive for that mistake is.


Wow, that's weak. "He's messing around to later be awesome" is your reason for doing that utterly horrible voteswitch?

So who would you lynch today?


Honestly don't know yet. I want to read what deus has to say, he was giving me mixed up gut reads and I'm tired ant not thinking best but I can think, I will try.

I think at the end of the game night I wanted to lynch deus most ironically. I can't remember why
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 05:32 GMT
#576
K actually appears I didn't like deus or jat.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 05:40 GMT
#578
On August 19 2013 14:38 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 23:34 Alakaslam wrote:
It will be a while before day post but I will be gone

Koshi may be right, but I'm not exactly a fan of nighttime confirming towns either

DeusXmachina has been looking bad
IVLosk, well looks like he is in same boat as me, I say give him a chance- which we will 2morrow (which comes in 5 hours xD)
HolyFlare looks o.k. But only o.k.
Finally, I would be suspect of justanothertownie.

End night gutreads


Has your stance on any of these changed?

Well deus is looking a bit better, but I'm not done
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 05:53 GMT
#579
Heck deus has me doing a near heel-face turn on him, and heck I'm about ready to vote jat, but is rather not sheep. I will make my own investigations and give reasons If I decide to vote him tomorrow. And yeah, I also want to hear from OmniEulogy. But koshi was obviously town and had similar sentiment. Then again, one o deus' points is just that- sheeps koshi, nothin new. But that isn't 100 percent true, but also that could be because koshi is gone.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 05:54 GMT
#580
K I new to sleep I will try to be better tomorrow.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 13:42 GMT
#589
I know sorry about being gone.

I am here now gimme a bit to read.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 13:47 GMT
#590
Sigh...

The conundrum of liking both deus' & jat's dialogue for town. They are voting each other aren't they?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:08 GMT
#595
On August 19 2013 23:04 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 22:42 Alakaslam wrote:
I know sorry about being gone.

I am here now gimme a bit to read.


While you're here, give me a read on Omni please?

Ok. Reading his filter now.

Persona just started but I will still be able to check stuff out. That is why I was afg a bit, if not afk.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:21 GMT
#597
Well, I don't want to OMGUS but as he thinks I am second scummiest in the game I naturally think he is at least misguided, but if that's my fault for principle voteswitching I get it. Captain hindsight can work mightily in people.

Still, wish deus answered me at the time. At least he has said why since.


I want to see what OE thinks of deus upon his return.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:23 GMT
#598
Hehehe

You give me the chills for my upcoming duties Onegu
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:25 GMT
#599
Now I must shower and go to work. I'll be off & on periodically.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 15:58 GMT
#603
On August 20 2013 00:52 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 23:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Well, I don't want to OMGUS but as he thinks I am second scummiest in the game I naturally think he is at least misguided, but if that's my fault for principle voteswitching I get it. Captain hindsight can work mightily in people.


Wait, so your read is "he's either scum or not"?

Care to explain what principle was that voteswitch based on?

Yeah. Principle was "I refuse to lynch town and we said we would lynch lurkers and also it feels like I am being svengali'd to vote iVLosK! somehow". In other words, I was practically going nuts, is it impossible to read the intense atmosphere at the time?

And lol- good point, but yes my read is idunno, leaning town. I am saying if he thinks it's scum it's my fault anyway, so being wrong is not scummy like I wish it was. Then anyone who accused me would be scum and I'd win every town game :D
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 15:59 GMT
#604
EBWOP: *If he thinks I'm scum
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 16:03 GMT
#605
Now more on Deus.

I personally like him shutting down discussion of the Xzav tomfoolery, because no more suspicion of me- Yay!

However, as a Town oriented player, I really dislike it. Why should any discussion be stifled? And here he is using bully tactics too; "It is scummy to talk about it anymore"- no it isn't! Although I wish everyone would just forget it, we need to hash out whether or not scum was involved. I really don't like stifling that.

That being said, I think Deus could be thinking about "Priority 1: establish your innocence", so this is the best way to do that. However, it could be "Scum priority: stay alive" so not anything better than null from me.

I will keep looking into things and talkin
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 16:06 GMT
#606
On August 20 2013 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 00:24 OmniEulogy wrote:
just got on the computer, read through things quickly and I'll give a more detailed answer to everything in a little bit but I've played with a lot of people who play like LosK has been doing, all of them have been town. Most of what he's said and done has largely just messed with town, and although he is my weakest town read he is still town imo.

All of the association cases against him are useless till we know Slam/Deus's alignment.

Also from what I quickly read it looks like Deus didn't actually address anything in JAT's case and tried to brush it off and then redirect suspicion at others. I'd be fine with him trying to give his scum reads if he actually tried to clear up his mess and explain his own posts.

Also Deus from how I read it, the inconsistency isn't the constantly changing reads town has, the inconsistency is you saying one thing, and then doing another immediately after with no reason behind it. Did you even care who you voted for D1? I can't tell. Also cases don't need to be long and lengthy, having a short case with a ton of incriminating posts doesn't make it weak. How about you actually talk about those posts instead.

I'm going to grab some lunch / late breakfast and then get back to the questions directed at me


I expect more of you. In this post you only repeat what has been said earlier (by me).

The most important question for me is: Why do you think scum Deus or slam voted like that if you think iVLosk is town? Why should they make themselves look bad if they could just stay on the active townie instead of the completely useless one?

Just clarifying, is this FoS on iVLosK!?
Or clearing of Deus, Me, Holy?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#611
@above: I was NOT THINKING THAT CLEARLY lone. The way I saw it was WHOLLY UNreasonable; I saw it as not falling for a day1 mislynch again without giving a player with some exp a chance to shine versus someone lurking like mad.

I have no thought to "how likely is Xzavier to be scum" because I was thinking "HolyFlare made a good point about lurking last-second posters, I bet Xzavier does last minute" etc etc- the switch was 100% nervous voter's remorse sheep.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#612
Oh yeah

I would lynch either you or deus xD more likely Deus
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 17:09 GMT
#622
On August 20 2013 02:00 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 01:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh yeah

I would lynch either you or deus xD more likely Deus


Why? Reasons required here. Also, who was "you" in this?

You is JAT but y'all are as convinced as deus last game.

Both seem like they could be town I do care who I lynch. It is like what happened to vlosk
He was gone, I am only AFPC but still, I can't make detailed reads and stuff from my phone.

Deus is stifling the very conversation you guys are having and you jump me lololol

See I encouraged this very conversation but nooooooooooo man that is scummier than stifling it oh and btw you are all scummy for discussing this

Ya seriously

##Vote: DeusXmachina

I be the reps this is your page 35 moment

"Hermano! Aiuda me!"
(K, I switched now tell me why)
"El viva rey!'
(Silence, Xzavier is town)
"HWOAOAH"
Nooooooooooooo!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 17:34 GMT
#631
On August 20 2013 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
No said question can absolutely be answered. I did not ask for the alignment of said players I asked for the reason for Omni's scumread on Deus and Alakaslam and why he thinks they would voteswitch as scum.

Pfft just read HolyFlare that's probably all the alakasuspicious that can be remotely loosely said in a nutshell

That's like just short of all that can be said short of what is pulled from ass
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 17:46 GMT
#634
On August 20 2013 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 02:34 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 20 2013 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
No said question can absolutely be answered. I did not ask for the alignment of said players I asked for the reason for Omni's scumread on Deus and Alakaslam and why he thinks they would voteswitch as scum.

Pfft just read HolyFlare that's probably all the alakasuspicious that can be remotely loosely said in a nutshell

That's like just short of all that can be said short of what is pulled from ass


I guess the message is you didn't like HolyFlares post, yes?

Just replace "slamfish" with "justanothertownie" and see how you likes it, preciousssssss
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 17:49 GMT
#636
On August 20 2013 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
You are really not helping yourself with this kind of bs trolling.

And what would you do?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 17:50 GMT
#637
I have basically condemned myself to anyone who likes holy's case, so beyond that I can speak but it piss me off now for people keep talking about it. Because town is all "DECIDE DECIDE DECIDE" to me but they won't decide when a case like that comes up that would practically convince me if I didn't know better
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 17:53 GMT
#640
I'm not trying to confuse anyone.

I am trying to say "what the hell am I supposed to say to that- do you beat your wife?"
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 18:04 GMT
#642
Well FAUGH, I am frustrated right now, I am gonna be sorta rough. My apologies but anything I can do to actually HELP versus more "well idunno tell me moar if you think slam is scum, why do you think this" I mean, if it's me it's either you like holy's case or you don't, or you sort of do and have to live with it because there isn't anything else yet, and probably won't be until more comes up so you know by then.

So I you like holy's case vote me, if not what you want me do. I voted deus, and I think this because he stifled discussion mainly coupled with prior gutread.. So if you MUST discuss me, go for it but don't ask for my take.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 18:05 GMT
#643
^^ is directe at everyone.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 18:52 GMT
#647
On August 20 2013 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
I feel so alone here...

HolyFlare would you do us a favor and post the rest of your information if you have the time?
What's with the other people - Lone, any input? Also Deus has gone mia again...

Anything you want from be besides am I scum?

I am willing to check stuff out
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:06 GMT
#701
K wow finish work refresh page 33

##Unvote: DeusXmachina

Beback lemme read
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:06 GMT
#702
Man I am ALWAYS too of the page like this when I post like this
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:29 GMT
#703
Hell yes I told you all iVLosk was coming

My phone is crumming up, I can hardly type this

Van fuk u no more gifs use YouTube freaking wickenburg data
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:30 GMT
#704
Ah that's better. Reading 35 will be a pain ftw
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:32 GMT
#705
Hell yes hell yes page 35 FTW

YEEEESSSSSSS
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:54 GMT
#706
Nobody here?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 04:59 GMT
#707
On August 20 2013 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know if you are scum. But since I absolutely don't trust my ability to read you I am looking for mafia elsewhere at the moment.
If you have the time I guess it would be a good idea for you to have a look at Deus if you really want to lynch him. If you have even more time I would like your opinion on Omni and iVLosk.

Well you just got my opinion of PAGE 35 FTW

omni is not my favorite person here. He keeps pushing me and deus, I'm not gonna like him a whole lot. From captain hindsight I think he is leaning town.

Dude tho iVLosk how is lone

Wow

Like I must read what you said again
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 05:00 GMT
#708
Page 35
Rofl so fitting

Toldyabro
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 14:11 GMT
#731
I think iVLosk knows this and more.

Y u all Chezinu me

You all look town now when only yesterday you were all scummy...

What to say, mayhap I am more omgusy than the react-reading folks, if that is possible.

Lone, iVLosk has seen my scum game. He and the rest of town saw through within hours. However if you are super interested you can ask him, he is mod over where that went down.

Oh, iVLosK- Chezinu rule/House of Chezinu is the philosophy of TL that a few subscribe to that is basically "make friends not get lynched". One of my biggest goals right now, distracting as it may seem, is to hear from all, who has read and who has not.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 14:14 GMT
#732
Holy I town read (past tense) deus too.

Past tense because now that I think too many people are town everyone got kicked to null again. So I will shower, prepare for work, read, and try to give reads.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 14:44 GMT
#737
On August 20 2013 23:29 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Holy I town read (past tense) deus too.

Past tense because now that I think too many people are town everyone got kicked to null again. So I will shower, prepare for work, read, and try to give reads.


Wait, what the heck. Your read on Deus is changing so fast I can't even keep track of it. Why did your opinion on him change to town after you made your case on him? Didn't see any reasoning with your unvote.

I saw his analysis and whatnot. Now I'm back to null because that makes too many town. Other scumread was jat, who has pretty much done the same thing.

Y'all will have to convince me what is wrong with deus but your cases may have already said. Lemme go look.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 14:45 GMT
#738
On August 20 2013 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Holy I town read (past tense) deus too.

Past tense because now that I think too many people are town everyone got kicked to null again. So I will shower, prepare for work, read, and try to give reads.



I never brought this point up!?!?! lone did, I never said iv thought deus was town either

Oh whoops- are you both scv's?

XD yeah that was directed at the person who wanted to know
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 14:48 GMT
#739
On August 20 2013 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:09 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is to say that you could be town and he knew it so wanted to get on your side? There are a myriad of possibilities and I did not draw any conclusions from it other than his inconsistencies, I am pointing out the shit posts for other people to read. Whether you take from it that you are also scum is up to you, I do not give a shit.

You did point out that I am the "only" player who has a town read on Deus.



think you are referring to this, good observation skills

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a read on Alakaslam. He's been town in all previous games, so no meta to compare. The Xzavier vote shenigans make him look bad but that's basically all I can get on him.

An interesting point to think about: The only player to give a town read on Deus is iVLosK!.

Going to go back and re-read some filters.


I see what confused me, you buttz in

Yeah lone or deus, neither looked all that scummy to me!

Jat has redeemed himself in my eyes...

I trust the bamcis iVLosK, but should I sheep?

Yes, if that is how I truly feel. But I feel lone is town... So I will look at others.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 14:54 GMT
#740
On August 20 2013 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is to say that you could be town and he knew it so wanted to get on your side? There are a myriad of possibilities and I did not draw any conclusions from it other than his inconsistencies, I am pointing out the shit posts for other people to read. Whether you take from it that you are also scum is up to you, I do not give a shit.

... Chezinu.

Sees me say iVLosk repeatedly

Lynch

Wait dangerous looks bad

Buddy up

Buddy up to the one who knows the bamcis one, one more townie who won't lynch

Deus defense thyself to move my vote is what is say but I'm headed to work. Therefore, deus, if you are town convince the rest unless I somehow get enough data reception to check up near deadline.

##Vote: DeusXmachina
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 16:54 GMT
#749
I'm back for a bit

Help me vlosk, what is up. Can check again in a sec. Digging a hole.

##Unvote

Salome has goo data today, maybe I am the only one using atm
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 16:57 GMT
#751
On August 20 2013 23:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is to say that you could be town and he knew it so wanted to get on your side? There are a myriad of possibilities and I did not draw any conclusions from it other than his inconsistencies, I am pointing out the shit posts for other people to read. Whether you take from it that you are also scum is up to you, I do not give a shit.

... Chezinu.

Sees me say iVLosk repeatedly

Lynch

Wait dangerous looks bad

Buddy up

Buddy up to the one who knows the bamcis one, one more townie who won't lynch

Deus defense thyself to move my vote is what is say but I'm headed to work. Therefore, deus, if you are town convince the rest unless I somehow get enough data reception to check up near deadline.

##Vote: DeusXmachina

K deus, vlosk,

Do you see where I'm coming from? Find a fallacy and then tell me who is better lynch and why. You'll probably say lonemeow, but WHY. Even if just restating the case putting it here on last page will help me as I am working and in case Salome data isn't this good forever.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 16:59 GMT
#753
On August 21 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I just reread Deus filter. I urge everyone voting him now to do the same. That's the least you can do.
I am not convinced he is scum. As I reread I got the feeling everything up to his last post about me could be a townie who made a big mistake under pressure at the deadline Day1.
Before he made that big ass bullshit post on me I was about to consider him town again and I now know why again. It's this post that I liked:
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On August 20 2013 04:00 DeusXmachina wrote:
Just got up. Ill answer the questions directed at me 1 by 1. JAT's is first

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On August 19 2013 19:46 justanothertownie wrote:
So Deus, you don't like it if I quote you - ok. I don't like to quote such an enormous post anyways.
So here is my answer to you but first:
I thought about the whole thing since yesterday and I will admit that the lynch conclusions alone are not enough to forge a solid read on someone. I got caught up in this because your voting was really stupid even if it wasn't scum motivated. If you read what I said you know that I already mentioned it doesn't make so much sense for scum to voteswitch like that if iVLosk is town. And iVlosk is right that this is kind of an association case and that they are bad.

Still I don't really like how you responded to my case on you and I will tell you why.
Yeah, I quoted a shitton if you want so say it like that but I always explained what's scummy about it if it doesn't speak for itself like your voting pattern. You don't even adress one point of my case directly instead you are saying I am scum for pushing you? Wow, now I am impressed. Thats's the scummy way to "defend" against a case.

You are absolutely right - a townie should change his reads if there is new information but did you really do that? What happened between your vote on iVlosk and your vote on Xzavier that changed your mind and if there is nothing why did you vote for iVLosk in the first place? If you can explain your thought process through yesterday to me instead of just claiming there is no way scum would do that I would consider changing my read on you. Also please explain to me why you didn't know it was plurality lynch when it was mentioned several times before the lynch (did you read the thread at all?).
So far I see your case on me is that I am agreeing with people on things + OMGUS. Yeah, great case.

Other than that:
I am suspicious of Omni myself. He is obviously right about me but if I understand him correctly he obsed before he replaced so it is easy to know who looks townie to people and who doesn't and scum likes to give townreads. It is easy for them to give strong reads because they know who is town and who isn't.
But what really gets me thinking about him is his reasoning. He doesn't even really consider iVLosk to be scum and still insists on you or slam being scum and I don't follow that.
There still is only one alive player who I really have a considerable townread on and it's not him.

I would really like you to keep being active Day2 and to keep posting reads. If this means you have to push me - do it.
The same goes for iVLosk who didn't contribute anything for a long time now. I don't want to call him scum for not defending himself before the lynch anymore because it was very shortly before the deadline that he got voted but still several people were suspicious of him and there was always the possibility of him getting lynched earlier. I don't know what to think of him.
It really sucks that slam is afk for half of the dayphase btw.



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On August 19 2013 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I read Deus filter again and I really don't like it.

He looked very motivated pre game and you describe him as an agressive, active townie in the last newbie game.
I don't see that at all in this game.

He started with some policy posts without saying anything. That's ok in itself but after that his activity really dropped down.
He wasn't agressive instead he asked generic questions like this:
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On August 16 2013 05:23 DeusXmachina wrote:
Analyzing peoples previous games to determine their role this game, good or bad in newbie?

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On August 16 2013 06:36 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:26 iVLosK! wrote:
Using meta on noobies is usually useless, in my experience.

So, how much experience do you have? I guess you played 1 game on TL... other sites?


Why do you ask?

After I mentioned that policy talk doesn't add that much he quickly backed off. Feels really defensive (although this post isn't that bad apart from that).
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On August 17 2013 03:06 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 17 2013 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 16 2013 20:37 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Because it was mentioned someone did it in one of the last newbie games and because there were 2 townies who fakeclaimed cop in the first game I played.


Ok, I see.

What do you think of this game so far, any reads?

Not really. I didn't like some posts from Deus and the first one of Squibbles that much but this won't tell me anything. I'm just not a fan of this rather pointless policy discussions. People can talk alot about these things without adding any useful content.
I won't read to much into early contentless posts though. Bad experience last game.



Yeah scum could talk policy all day. Lets put all this lying, lurking, and what-have-you talk aside for now. I am going to vote reps or xzavier if they don't start posting. I want to push for a lynch day 1, and as of right now they are the best candidates. If reps/xzavier are tied for first then a close second would be, well.... everyone else. Although, I can't help be suspicious of holy. Last game he was pretty try-hard and this game he seems pretty detached. I won't press it for now though because he said he was busy. Anyway, I think our goal should be pressuring xzavier and reps to get them to participate. Lurkers won't be tolerated!

His scumhunting pretty much only revolved around lynching lurkers. Easy thing to do as scum.
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On August 17 2013 09:07 DeusXmachina wrote:
Lets entertain a scenario. Reps or Xzavier are completely aware that the game has started and are intentionally not posting. They don't feel any real pressure so they aim to do several things:

A) Contribute nothing to increase the chances of a no-lynch day 1
B) Contribute nothing to avoid mistakes or posts that could get them unwanted attention.
or the less likely
C) Play a lurker roll so their scum buddy can bus them.

How easy would it be to drop in and say, "oh sorry guys I couldn't post because.... blah.. blah.. blah...". Some of you are already assuming that they are just afk.

Why are we tolerating lurkers?




What seems weird to me is his stance on iVLosk. First he defends him.
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On August 17 2013 07:45 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 17 2013 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
I did filter dive although that's a weird term for less than a page of posts. Of course I don't care about his rap stuff. I liked his post concerning the policies and the one about metareads in newbies. There wasn't that much else at the time I made that statement.


Do you not think what I wrote about him has any merit? Specifically the point about telling us not to write crap but then doing it himself? A few posts have happened since your last assumption.


I don't think his hypocrisy is a reason to be suspicious. He probably just wanted to come in with flare, hence his aggressive first post (not counting rap). Holy would you rather focus on iV or reps/xzavier? Pressuring xzavier or reps might get them to start talking.

Then he is suspicious of him:
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On August 17 2013 09:38 DeusXmachina wrote:
I am growing suspicious of iV. The way he handled holy's pressure seems scummy. He seemed more interested in discrediting Holy than actually contributing.

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On August 17 2013 09:09 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:49 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:04 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Hm? I meant the posts he listed.
Relying on modkills for lurkers is really scummy btw. Good thing you say you would vote them if they keep lurking Holyflare.

D' Oh.


On August 17 2013 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
All his posts are pretty much non contributory. I genuinely think reps is afk if he hasn't posted yet, no idea about xzavier but it frustrates me, if they don't talk at all it's a double modkill and therefore we should focus on the people who are talking. I swear to god if another bs lurker happens like last game with a post a day I'm voting them off straight anyway

I think this is the post JAT is referencing above. I noticed it too.


I like you drawing attention to this, oh it's scummy to avoid lurkers but then say you want to do the anti lurker thing, seriously? I mean what the hell i don't know if you two are trying to set me up but until the lurkers actually do something talking about them is 100% anti town by way of wasting time. Of course we will lynch lurkers if nobody is under any real suspicion do not be stupid.

I'm not sure I ever said it was scummy to avoid lurkers. So you've lost me.


JAT is saying it's scummy and you said "i noticed it too"?


"I noticed it" =/= "this is scummy". It's sorta more like what you're doing. Putting together a case on me without actually voting me. Read D1 of my first game on this site. I don't like that shit and happily lynch people who do it.



This is a good example. Attacks holy and contributes nothing to town.

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On August 17 2013 10:01 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 17 2013 09:54 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 09:53 reps)squishy wrote:
I am sorry I don't see where I "fucked up".
Please point it out.

On August 17 2013 09:49 reps)squishy wrote:
I read all pages so far. I am suspicious of iV. He believes in lynch all liers and also stated town has plenty of reasons to lie. Is it me or does that seem a little scummy.
Proof.
1.
On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


2.
There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.


I've bolded the obvious sarcasm for those unable or unwilling to keep up.


Seems more egotistical than sarcastic.

Shortly after that Losk is town suddenly:
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On August 17 2013 13:55 DeusXmachina wrote:
Last thing before I go to bed.

I thought I would post my thoughts on day 1 so far.

I peg iV for town because he seems aggressive, and antagonistic at times, and to me these are definitely town traits.

But why don't vote for our townread, right?
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On August 18 2013 02:48 DeusXmachina wrote:
##Vote: iVLosK!

Then there is this:
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On August 18 2013 03:00 DeusXmachina wrote:
Yeah don't vote modkill I get it

Followed by:
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On August 18 2013 03:03 DeusXmachina wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Xzavier

Finally he claims not to have known this is plurality lynch which has been stated several times in the thread. He either doesn't read the thread or this is a bad excuse for his weird voting.
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On August 18 2013 08:08 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 18 2013 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 18 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:49 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up

Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well.


Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out.

so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though

I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently.

I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now.

And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody.

As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town.
JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment
slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again.

I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier.





I like how you ignore everything I've said the entirety of the game just to focus on the person I put my vote on. It was my girlfriends birthday today (went out yesterday for it/party today) so I left my vote on the safest person so far. If he posted once and voted he'd be still in the game and I would NOT be alright with that, I would 100% not be alright with wasting 2 days just so we could fucking waste another day talking about him and wasting the day on him.


That's a pretty massive issue.... the objective isn't to find the safest person to vote for and then do it as town.....

Your reason of not wanting to get rid of somebody who might contribute doesn't work in this case. Xzavier had literally not made a single post, was very likely to be modkilled and you had stronger feelings against another player but you kept your vote on him because it was safer? Am I reading that right? Safer for what? Town on D1 doesn't need to worry about what the safe vote is. if you wanted to be safe why didn't you just ##Vote:No-Lynch instead of putting it on somebody who wouldn't defend himself.

I'm fairly certain I just got that last part wrong, would a mod be kind enough to tell me/us what the correct format is to vote for a no-lynch? Thanks!



I am confused why Xzavier WAS voted off though when the 2 votes were placed after the deadline........


We didn't even have enough votes against him. It wasn't a vote off. He was modkilled. They just said he got lynched in the end of day post.


I really would like to hear his reasoning for all of this. Also he should be way more active Day2 if he is town because right now I am really worried about him.



For starters, scum reads based on the xzavier lynch are extremelly unreliable, and I will try to explain that by detailing my thought process. Ill say this again, the xzavier lynch is a MASSIVE opportunity for scum to capitalize on. It's a gateway to mislynching a townie.

There was some talk about my inconsistency. I wouldn't call the moments before the Xzavier lynch inconsistent. At least in my case, the better word is impulsive.

So my thought process: The most impulsive thing I did that day was vote iV. Shortly after, I posted what I was thinking.
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On August 18 2013 02:56 DeusXmachina wrote:
Sorry guys. I couldn't be around this morning. Read the thread. Although I don't completely agree with Holy stance against iV, everyone else seems convinced. Not sold on squibbs. I would rather vote Xzavier but that is clearly not going to happen. Fuck I might change my vote. iV seems to aggressive/antagonistic to be scum.



I got in right before the lynch. I pan through the posts. Wow people seemed convinced iV is the best lynch candidate. Vote iV. Wait a second, I don't really agree with that. He is way to antagonistic, and aggressive to be scum. I don't think this is right. Well how many votes against him, we need 5 right? (Yes I genuinly thought it was a majority lynch. No I didn't catch where it said plurality. Yes when slam responded right after saying plurality I discarded it because I thought wtf does that mean). Nope this isn't right he is not scum. Unvote, vote Xzavier. Why vote Xzavier? Yes I actually thought it was a majority (Guys do you really think scum would say something so stupid?). I thought, you know what, I am sticking to my guns this game. I don't want to tolerate lurking. Why such a strong stance against lurking? Well I had a major lurker in my last game who turned out to be scum. Another lurker, although not as bad, who turned out to be scum.

Okay, so in retrospect Xzavier was beyond a lurker. He was a no poster. But I thought to myself, I don't think Squibbs is scum just yet, I don't think reps is scum just yet. So he is the only one I can vote for. I kick myself for not voting no-lynch.

But don't you see! That inconsistency, that impulsiveness is not scummy. Who is more likely to be impulsive? A scum who is constantly thinking about the ramifications of his actions, or a townie who is interested in scum hunting, not constantly making sure he does not look suspicious. Look how much shit that Xzavier lynch got slam and I? That would be, like I said earlier, a massive misstep by scum. That's why talk of scum reads based on the Xzavier lynch are so silly. That's why I think Omni is trying to capitalize on the lynch.

Ill respond to JAT's case point by point.
The first little bit is based on my meta. I think that is a weak argument. He is talking about how I am not being as aggressive. Well different game different situation.

Second point. Back off the policy talk was not defensive at all. I was heading your advice/agreeing with you.

My scum hunting was based off of only lurkers? I didn't have anything else to scum hunt at the time. I didn't want to talk about inconsistencies in IV's play and over-analyze his first post, so I didn't chime in with Holy.

After that is the best example of my inconsistency. My read on iV was changing, that's all that needs to be said.

The rest I explained above.

Overall it's still a weak case.

My case on you was not just based on you agreeing with things.

It doesn't sound like an impossible scenario to me.

The only thing that really frustrates me about him is his tunneling against me. I already stated why his case is bullshit and I won't do this again here.
I don't understand why he attacks me and not Omni (I know he leans scum on him but he pushes me instead). I would absolutely attack Omni right now if I was him. He even stated several times that Omni is the one who is pushing an agenda with the Day1 lynch but instead he fucking votes me for laughable reasons.
I don't get it. But I also don't see why scum Deus would do this - it's just bad/stupid play. Also it weirds me out how everyone apart from iVLosk voted him without a problem. Either they are a very obvious scumteam (I won't call it impossible) or something doesn't add up here.

Any thoughts? I will see if I can find a better target for my vote for now.

Check out lone for me ya? Now, brb.
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On August 21 2013 02:04 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 21 2013 01:59 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 21 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I just reread Deus filter. I urge everyone voting him now to do the same. That's the least you can do.
I am not convinced he is scum. As I reread I got the feeling everything up to his last post about me could be a townie who made a big mistake under pressure at the deadline Day1.
Before he made that big ass bullshit post on me I was about to consider him town again and I now know why again. It's this post that I liked:
On August 20 2013 04:00 DeusXmachina wrote:
Just got up. Ill answer the questions directed at me 1 by 1. JAT's is first

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On August 19 2013 19:46 justanothertownie wrote:
So Deus, you don't like it if I quote you - ok. I don't like to quote such an enormous post anyways.
So here is my answer to you but first:
I thought about the whole thing since yesterday and I will admit that the lynch conclusions alone are not enough to forge a solid read on someone. I got caught up in this because your voting was really stupid even if it wasn't scum motivated. If you read what I said you know that I already mentioned it doesn't make so much sense for scum to voteswitch like that if iVLosk is town. And iVlosk is right that this is kind of an association case and that they are bad.

Still I don't really like how you responded to my case on you and I will tell you why.
Yeah, I quoted a shitton if you want so say it like that but I always explained what's scummy about it if it doesn't speak for itself like your voting pattern. You don't even adress one point of my case directly instead you are saying I am scum for pushing you? Wow, now I am impressed. Thats's the scummy way to "defend" against a case.

You are absolutely right - a townie should change his reads if there is new information but did you really do that? What happened between your vote on iVlosk and your vote on Xzavier that changed your mind and if there is nothing why did you vote for iVLosk in the first place? If you can explain your thought process through yesterday to me instead of just claiming there is no way scum would do that I would consider changing my read on you. Also please explain to me why you didn't know it was plurality lynch when it was mentioned several times before the lynch (did you read the thread at all?).
So far I see your case on me is that I am agreeing with people on things + OMGUS. Yeah, great case.

Other than that:
I am suspicious of Omni myself. He is obviously right about me but if I understand him correctly he obsed before he replaced so it is easy to know who looks townie to people and who doesn't and scum likes to give townreads. It is easy for them to give strong reads because they know who is town and who isn't.
But what really gets me thinking about him is his reasoning. He doesn't even really consider iVLosk to be scum and still insists on you or slam being scum and I don't follow that.
There still is only one alive player who I really have a considerable townread on and it's not him.

I would really like you to keep being active Day2 and to keep posting reads. If this means you have to push me - do it.
The same goes for iVLosk who didn't contribute anything for a long time now. I don't want to call him scum for not defending himself before the lynch anymore because it was very shortly before the deadline that he got voted but still several people were suspicious of him and there was always the possibility of him getting lynched earlier. I don't know what to think of him.
It really sucks that slam is afk for half of the dayphase btw.



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On August 19 2013 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I read Deus filter again and I really don't like it.

He looked very motivated pre game and you describe him as an agressive, active townie in the last newbie game.
I don't see that at all in this game.

He started with some policy posts without saying anything. That's ok in itself but after that his activity really dropped down.
He wasn't agressive instead he asked generic questions like this:
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On August 16 2013 05:23 DeusXmachina wrote:
Analyzing peoples previous games to determine their role this game, good or bad in newbie?

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On August 16 2013 06:36 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:26 iVLosK! wrote:
Using meta on noobies is usually useless, in my experience.

So, how much experience do you have? I guess you played 1 game on TL... other sites?


Why do you ask?

After I mentioned that policy talk doesn't add that much he quickly backed off. Feels really defensive (although this post isn't that bad apart from that).
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On August 17 2013 03:06 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 17 2013 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 16 2013 20:37 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 16 2013 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Because it was mentioned someone did it in one of the last newbie games and because there were 2 townies who fakeclaimed cop in the first game I played.


Ok, I see.

What do you think of this game so far, any reads?

Not really. I didn't like some posts from Deus and the first one of Squibbles that much but this won't tell me anything. I'm just not a fan of this rather pointless policy discussions. People can talk alot about these things without adding any useful content.
I won't read to much into early contentless posts though. Bad experience last game.



Yeah scum could talk policy all day. Lets put all this lying, lurking, and what-have-you talk aside for now. I am going to vote reps or xzavier if they don't start posting. I want to push for a lynch day 1, and as of right now they are the best candidates. If reps/xzavier are tied for first then a close second would be, well.... everyone else. Although, I can't help be suspicious of holy. Last game he was pretty try-hard and this game he seems pretty detached. I won't press it for now though because he said he was busy. Anyway, I think our goal should be pressuring xzavier and reps to get them to participate. Lurkers won't be tolerated!

His scumhunting pretty much only revolved around lynching lurkers. Easy thing to do as scum.
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On August 17 2013 09:07 DeusXmachina wrote:
Lets entertain a scenario. Reps or Xzavier are completely aware that the game has started and are intentionally not posting. They don't feel any real pressure so they aim to do several things:

A) Contribute nothing to increase the chances of a no-lynch day 1
B) Contribute nothing to avoid mistakes or posts that could get them unwanted attention.
or the less likely
C) Play a lurker roll so their scum buddy can bus them.

How easy would it be to drop in and say, "oh sorry guys I couldn't post because.... blah.. blah.. blah...". Some of you are already assuming that they are just afk.

Why are we tolerating lurkers?




What seems weird to me is his stance on iVLosk. First he defends him.
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On August 17 2013 07:45 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 17 2013 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
I did filter dive although that's a weird term for less than a page of posts. Of course I don't care about his rap stuff. I liked his post concerning the policies and the one about metareads in newbies. There wasn't that much else at the time I made that statement.


Do you not think what I wrote about him has any merit? Specifically the point about telling us not to write crap but then doing it himself? A few posts have happened since your last assumption.


I don't think his hypocrisy is a reason to be suspicious. He probably just wanted to come in with flare, hence his aggressive first post (not counting rap). Holy would you rather focus on iV or reps/xzavier? Pressuring xzavier or reps might get them to start talking.

Then he is suspicious of him:
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On August 17 2013 09:38 DeusXmachina wrote:
I am growing suspicious of iV. The way he handled holy's pressure seems scummy. He seemed more interested in discrediting Holy than actually contributing.

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On August 17 2013 09:09 iVLosK! wrote:
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On August 17 2013 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:49 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:04 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Hm? I meant the posts he listed.
Relying on modkills for lurkers is really scummy btw. Good thing you say you would vote them if they keep lurking Holyflare.

D' Oh.


On August 17 2013 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
All his posts are pretty much non contributory. I genuinely think reps is afk if he hasn't posted yet, no idea about xzavier but it frustrates me, if they don't talk at all it's a double modkill and therefore we should focus on the people who are talking. I swear to god if another bs lurker happens like last game with a post a day I'm voting them off straight anyway

I think this is the post JAT is referencing above. I noticed it too.


I like you drawing attention to this, oh it's scummy to avoid lurkers but then say you want to do the anti lurker thing, seriously? I mean what the hell i don't know if you two are trying to set me up but until the lurkers actually do something talking about them is 100% anti town by way of wasting time. Of course we will lynch lurkers if nobody is under any real suspicion do not be stupid.

I'm not sure I ever said it was scummy to avoid lurkers. So you've lost me.


JAT is saying it's scummy and you said "i noticed it too"?


"I noticed it" =/= "this is scummy". It's sorta more like what you're doing. Putting together a case on me without actually voting me. Read D1 of my first game on this site. I don't like that shit and happily lynch people who do it.



This is a good example. Attacks holy and contributes nothing to town.

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On August 17 2013 10:01 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 17 2013 09:54 iVLosK! wrote:
On August 17 2013 09:53 reps)squishy wrote:
I am sorry I don't see where I "fucked up".
Please point it out.

On August 17 2013 09:49 reps)squishy wrote:
I read all pages so far. I am suspicious of iV. He believes in lynch all liers and also stated town has plenty of reasons to lie. Is it me or does that seem a little scummy.
Proof.
1.
On August 16 2013 05:04 iVLosK! wrote:
Yeah lynch all liars and no lurking! And anything else that sounds pro-town! C'mon guys. No fucking duh. I have a policy of lynching people who say stupid, obvious shit. What do you think of them apples, flare, deus, and LM?


2.
There are plenty of reasons to lie as town. Part of this game is misleading scum about what your own abilities and intentions are.


I've bolded the obvious sarcasm for those unable or unwilling to keep up.


Seems more egotistical than sarcastic.

Shortly after that Losk is town suddenly:
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On August 17 2013 13:55 DeusXmachina wrote:
Last thing before I go to bed.

I thought I would post my thoughts on day 1 so far.

I peg iV for town because he seems aggressive, and antagonistic at times, and to me these are definitely town traits.

But why don't vote for our townread, right?
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On August 18 2013 02:48 DeusXmachina wrote:
##Vote: iVLosK!

Then there is this:
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On August 18 2013 03:00 DeusXmachina wrote:
Yeah don't vote modkill I get it

Followed by:
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On August 18 2013 03:03 DeusXmachina wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Xzavier

Finally he claims not to have known this is plurality lynch which has been stated several times in the thread. He either doesn't read the thread or this is a bad excuse for his weird voting.
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On August 18 2013 08:08 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 18 2013 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 18 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:49 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up

Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well.


Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out.

so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though

I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently.

I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now.

And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody.

As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town.
JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment
slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again.

I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier.





I like how you ignore everything I've said the entirety of the game just to focus on the person I put my vote on. It was my girlfriends birthday today (went out yesterday for it/party today) so I left my vote on the safest person so far. If he posted once and voted he'd be still in the game and I would NOT be alright with that, I would 100% not be alright with wasting 2 days just so we could fucking waste another day talking about him and wasting the day on him.


That's a pretty massive issue.... the objective isn't to find the safest person to vote for and then do it as town.....

Your reason of not wanting to get rid of somebody who might contribute doesn't work in this case. Xzavier had literally not made a single post, was very likely to be modkilled and you had stronger feelings against another player but you kept your vote on him because it was safer? Am I reading that right? Safer for what? Town on D1 doesn't need to worry about what the safe vote is. if you wanted to be safe why didn't you just ##Vote:No-Lynch instead of putting it on somebody who wouldn't defend himself.

I'm fairly certain I just got that last part wrong, would a mod be kind enough to tell me/us what the correct format is to vote for a no-lynch? Thanks!



I am confused why Xzavier WAS voted off though when the 2 votes were placed after the deadline........


We didn't even have enough votes against him. It wasn't a vote off. He was modkilled. They just said he got lynched in the end of day post.


I really would like to hear his reasoning for all of this. Also he should be way more active Day2 if he is town because right now I am really worried about him.



For starters, scum reads based on the xzavier lynch are extremelly unreliable, and I will try to explain that by detailing my thought process. Ill say this again, the xzavier lynch is a MASSIVE opportunity for scum to capitalize on. It's a gateway to mislynching a townie.

There was some talk about my inconsistency. I wouldn't call the moments before the Xzavier lynch inconsistent. At least in my case, the better word is impulsive.

So my thought process: The most impulsive thing I did that day was vote iV. Shortly after, I posted what I was thinking.
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On August 18 2013 02:56 DeusXmachina wrote:
Sorry guys. I couldn't be around this morning. Read the thread. Although I don't completely agree with Holy stance against iV, everyone else seems convinced. Not sold on squibbs. I would rather vote Xzavier but that is clearly not going to happen. Fuck I might change my vote. iV seems to aggressive/antagonistic to be scum.



I got in right before the lynch. I pan through the posts. Wow people seemed convinced iV is the best lynch candidate. Vote iV. Wait a second, I don't really agree with that. He is way to antagonistic, and aggressive to be scum. I don't think this is right. Well how many votes against him, we need 5 right? (Yes I genuinly thought it was a majority lynch. No I didn't catch where it said plurality. Yes when slam responded right after saying plurality I discarded it because I thought wtf does that mean). Nope this isn't right he is not scum. Unvote, vote Xzavier. Why vote Xzavier? Yes I actually thought it was a majority (Guys do you really think scum would say something so stupid?). I thought, you know what, I am sticking to my guns this game. I don't want to tolerate lurking. Why such a strong stance against lurking? Well I had a major lurker in my last game who turned out to be scum. Another lurker, although not as bad, who turned out to be scum.

Okay, so in retrospect Xzavier was beyond a lurker. He was a no poster. But I thought to myself, I don't think Squibbs is scum just yet, I don't think reps is scum just yet. So he is the only one I can vote for. I kick myself for not voting no-lynch.

But don't you see! That inconsistency, that impulsiveness is not scummy. Who is more likely to be impulsive? A scum who is constantly thinking about the ramifications of his actions, or a townie who is interested in scum hunting, not constantly making sure he does not look suspicious. Look how much shit that Xzavier lynch got slam and I? That would be, like I said earlier, a massive misstep by scum. That's why talk of scum reads based on the Xzavier lynch are so silly. That's why I think Omni is trying to capitalize on the lynch.

Ill respond to JAT's case point by point.
The first little bit is based on my meta. I think that is a weak argument. He is talking about how I am not being as aggressive. Well different game different situation.

Second point. Back off the policy talk was not defensive at all. I was heading your advice/agreeing with you.

My scum hunting was based off of only lurkers? I didn't have anything else to scum hunt at the time. I didn't want to talk about inconsistencies in IV's play and over-analyze his first post, so I didn't chime in with Holy.

After that is the best example of my inconsistency. My read on iV was changing, that's all that needs to be said.

The rest I explained above.

Overall it's still a weak case.

My case on you was not just based on you agreeing with things.

It doesn't sound like an impossible scenario to me.

The only thing that really frustrates me about him is his tunneling against me. I already stated why his case is bullshit and I won't do this again here.
I don't understand why he attacks me and not Omni (I know he leans scum on him but he pushes me instead). I would absolutely attack Omni right now if I was him. He even stated several times that Omni is the one who is pushing an agenda with the Day1 lynch but instead he fucking votes me for laughable reasons.
I don't get it. But I also don't see why scum Deus would do this - it's just bad/stupid play. Also it weirds me out how everyone apart from iVLosk voted him without a problem. Either they are a very obvious scumteam (I won't call it impossible) or something doesn't add up here.

Any thoughts? I will see if I can find a better target for my vote for now.

Check out lone for me ya? Now, brb.

I will but Lone isn't someone I would vote right now and I highly doubt this will change after reading his filter. You on the other hand did some very fishy vote and opinion switching again today...

Lol

Yeah first I haven't switched yet.

Second, yes because I'm scum I soooo wanna implicate mysel further. Sorry for the WIFOM but seriously.

But yes, I greatly admire the prowess of vlosk, so his statement gives me pause though it is WIFOM; but if the WIFOM is scum side it is just an association case.

Now to read
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:39 GMT
#787
On August 21 2013 02:24 DeusXmachina wrote:
Slam if you are here, vote JAT. He is scum, I know it!. I have never been more sure of anything in a game of mafia.

K after this post? Anyone who chezinu's me too hard will earn a vote from me. Especially if deus flips scum at some point.

Still reading
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:43 GMT
#794
On August 21 2013 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
*You are either the worst case of misguided town in the history of mafia* or actually scum.

EXCUSE ME.

I do not appreciate such hyperbole, especially as I feel I am this myself.

I have never been correct on a read far as I can remember. I will not vote based on this but hisssss!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#802
I swear. Seeing the vote count, and that nobody else listens to the bamcis, I do this. Only thin that makes sense for me, and not that it particularly does.

##Vote: LoneMeow
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:51 GMT
#809
Btw don't need the e in voting Onegu :D

Sorry for grammar nawtsee
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#813
On August 21 2013 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
Unvote
##Vote Alakaslam

Well hello there.

Actually I'm glad you are sticking to your guns.

I really could use some confirming of town folks.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 18:26 GMT
#849
hey can I post my goodbye post in like 6-7 hours? First TL scum game and second overall, I want to craft this thing- phone won't cut it

GG town for now

Hehehe
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 22 2013 01:08 GMT
#1250
K interpretative dance coming sooon
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 22 2013 01:34 GMT
#1251
K actually I got too tired. Coming like to tonight or something.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 22 2013 03:55 GMT
#1253
Continued 100% losses as scum xD

I did have incognito workin but I never achieved Svengali.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 23 2013 02:30 GMT
#1263
On August 22 2013 21:51 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 22 2013 21:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
gg guys

day 1 was sooooo slow oh my god xD

We had 3 modkills Day1. Of 9 players...

It's a pity you weren't around that long, Koshi. You joined and were killed the same night

He wa too danyerous, as he thought I was better than I did xD

He saw through me when no one else did.
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