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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 20:16 GMT
#1090
Ok, thank you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 20:20 GMT
#1092
Hm, ok. I know this is getting old but why should Deus and slam as a scumteam do this vote bullshit Day1? Still a mystery to me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#1096
On August 22 2013 05:28 OmniEulogy wrote:
So... because Slam said he had to leave and couldn't play for that day you take credit for.... taking his computer away then? Are you using his inability to post as your reason??? just lol is right.

Anyway JAT who in their right mind would vote on Xzavier D1 in the first place? This is the type of shit that is 1 scum did it, especially in the way Slam did it, there is probably another one on Xzavier. Slam had no reason to last minute jump onto Xzavier if he wasn't following some sort of weird plan imo.

Exactly. But the only real plan I can see there is saving iV.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 20:33 GMT
#1098
And even if slam had other reasons (or maybe no reason) for it - why should scum Deus do the same? Why would they draw this much attention to themselves needlessly?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 20:35 GMT
#1103
On August 22 2013 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:28 OmniEulogy wrote:
So... because Slam said he had to leave and couldn't play for that day you take credit for.... taking his computer away then? Are you using his inability to post as your reason??? just lol is right.

Anyway JAT who in their right mind would vote on Xzavier D1 in the first place? This is the type of shit that is 1 scum did it, especially in the way Slam did it, there is probably another one on Xzavier. Slam had no reason to last minute jump onto Xzavier if he wasn't following some sort of weird plan imo.

Exactly. But the only real plan I can see there is saving iV.



Slam was agreeing with iv all day 1 and calling him town, if he switched off of iv and eventually revealed scum it would be obvious implications for iv. Hence all are accusations have been wasted calling iv scum with slam when really we should be looking elsewhere.

That is absolutely not true. Before slam voted iV he stated iV would be the best lynch in his eyes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 20:46 GMT
#1112
On August 22 2013 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:28 OmniEulogy wrote:
So... because Slam said he had to leave and couldn't play for that day you take credit for.... taking his computer away then? Are you using his inability to post as your reason??? just lol is right.

Anyway JAT who in their right mind would vote on Xzavier D1 in the first place? This is the type of shit that is 1 scum did it, especially in the way Slam did it, there is probably another one on Xzavier. Slam had no reason to last minute jump onto Xzavier if he wasn't following some sort of weird plan imo.

Exactly. But the only real plan I can see there is saving iV.



Slam was agreeing with iv all day 1 and calling him town, if he switched off of iv and eventually revealed scum it would be obvious implications for iv. Hence all are accusations have been wasted calling iv scum with slam when really we should be looking elsewhere.

That is absolutely not true. Before slam voted iV he stated iV would be the best lynch in his eyes.



Look at how quickly he switched position from pro town iv to scum iv and then off that notion.

Yep. But why?
My take as I mentioned earlier:
He said iV was the best lynch for later towncred in case one of them would be lynched one day. Then Lone and me suddenly voted iV and he was FORCED to vote him too. Otherwise he would basically claim scum.
All that is fine. But why would he take his vote off iV if iV is town? He tried to prevent this lynch with all his might looking very suspicious in the process. No reason to do that if iV is not scum.

Something nice in this regard:
On August 20 2013 09:45 iVLosK! wrote:
Deus's behavior just prior to the D1 lynch has far more town motivation than scum. I can be a little clearer on this because I actually know my alignment but what scum motivation is there to last-minute save the "bully" town and kill the silent modkill? In my experience, bully town is scary town to noob scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 21:53 GMT
#1122
On August 22 2013 06:45 DeusXmachina wrote:
Why are you guys arguing with Holy? I don't really see anyone discussing his case. If you don't think his case is valid, Omni, I would like to hear some reasons why. The fact of the matter is, Holy is one of the towniest members here. He was the first to make a big case against slam, and he was first to instigate the slam vote. This would be totally unnecessary as scum. So if you don't believe that Holy is scum, than believe that you are listening to a townie. His points are valid and he is doing legitimate scum hunting. Omni, you voted me, but I feel like you have not really built upon your first case against me. So what are some of your reasons for voting me, other than the ones you brought up in your first case, and the one shortly after?

One thing that Holy touched on, that I would like to reiterate: Why did not switch your vote to Slam if he was your number two read? When everyone switched off of me, I was in no danger of being lynched. Thus, your vote on my was pointless. Maybe I missed your response.

Tonight I am going to look into iV, mainly for my own reasons, I still need a little convincing before I make my vote. I promise to look at him with as little confirmation bias as I can muster. I have been trying to convince myself that it is possible he is scum, so that I can look at his filter objectively. Although, right now my gut says it's unlikely.

It's good that you are here now. Those 2 were getting repetitive.
So, who do you think is scum right now? Omni? I am eagerly awaiting your take on iV.
Before you ask - I am not sure who the scum is right now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#1123
To Holys case: I don't think it is very good. It is based on slams actions (or on what slam didn't do) and not on Omnis. His scenario is possible though and some of the points he stated later were not bad.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 22:41 GMT
#1144
Why are you doing this to me people?

I like Omnis point about slam trying to get people off Deus.
But I like Deus point about Omni being ok with slam when joining the thread, too.
Holy is the only one I am leaning town on but I don't like big parts of his reasoning against Omni.
iV is content just continuing not giving a fuck while not really being pressured by anyone (I would hate going into LYLO with him)...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#1150
On August 22 2013 07:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:39 Holyflare wrote:
think of it this way, who would slam say in the qt would be the people to target? Me and you...


It might have been the only option. He probably would not have said to target iV because he recently pulled his vote off of him. Also if you consider that fact the slam voted iV day 1, that means it's highly unlikely iV is scum. Why would a scum want to bus his teammate day 1.

That's not wrong but it's a bit more complicated than that. Slam just mentioned in his special way that iV would be the best lynch at some point in time. He could have changed this read anytime if it weren't for Lone and me who voted iV immediately after that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 22:59 GMT
#1168
On August 22 2013 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
Like I said earlier, who would be better to leave in the game? The antagonistic douche losk or the non contributer who could be modkilled into someone productive

This is a good point. But this would mean slam saved iVLosk to mislynch him later and instead he continued to say he is town and bamcis and what not.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#1173
Well, it's late. I'm taking off. I am really unsure about who is scum right now and I hope iV puts some effort into this tomorrow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 22 2013 12:05 GMT
#1255
On August 22 2013 12:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Continued flawless win record.

Yeah, we totally won just because of your great play. Totally.

gg, Omni. The nightkill on Lone was the right choice but I am pretty sure you would have been the next lynch because I wouldn't have lynched Holy or Deus over you and nobody else wanted to kill iV.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 22 2013 12:51 GMT
#1258
On August 22 2013 21:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
gg guys

day 1 was sooooo slow oh my god xD

We had 3 modkills Day1. Of 9 players...

It's a pity you weren't around that long, Koshi. You joined and were killed the same night
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