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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#1100
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:36 GMT
#1104
On August 22 2013 05:34 OmniEulogy wrote:
So you are saying he fell apart and posted three more pages of filter that look pretty much as useful as every other page? keep beating that dead horse Holy, see how far it'll take you.

@JAT in my night post that's the only person I mention, as that is the other possibility.



His posts before what I said were a lot more useful and did not implicate him as much as after my post. Stop being a tool you haven't even read them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:37 GMT
#1105
On August 22 2013 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:28 OmniEulogy wrote:
So... because Slam said he had to leave and couldn't play for that day you take credit for.... taking his computer away then? Are you using his inability to post as your reason??? just lol is right.

Anyway JAT who in their right mind would vote on Xzavier D1 in the first place? This is the type of shit that is 1 scum did it, especially in the way Slam did it, there is probably another one on Xzavier. Slam had no reason to last minute jump onto Xzavier if he wasn't following some sort of weird plan imo.

Exactly. But the only real plan I can see there is saving iV.



Slam was agreeing with iv all day 1 and calling him town, if he switched off of iv and eventually revealed scum it would be obvious implications for iv. Hence all are accusations have been wasted calling iv scum with slam when really we should be looking elsewhere.

That is absolutely not true. Before slam voted iV he stated iV would be the best lynch in his eyes.



Look at how quickly he switched position from pro town iv to scum iv and then off that notion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#1106
Guess who he also NEVER mentioned other than 'oh my eyes of suspicion are on him'. Squibbles. Guess who everyone was on at that point? Squibbles.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#1107
Also iv was being an antagonistic asshole (and still pretty much is) Who do you think was better in the long run to keep in the game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#1110
On August 22 2013 05:40 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:34 OmniEulogy wrote:
So you are saying he fell apart and posted three more pages of filter that look pretty much as useful as every other page? keep beating that dead horse Holy, see how far it'll take you.

@JAT in my night post that's the only person I mention, as that is the other possibility.



His posts before what I said were a lot more useful and did not implicate him as much as after my post. Stop being a tool you haven't even read them.


so the case that you made about his posts being useless was wrong and you are saying his posts were now useful?


I wasn't even sure on slam at that point but he was on the xzavier lynch and so was deus so I only made cases on those two. His defence was awful and like I said he fell apart. I made a case out of nothing and if you say it isn't even a good case then that's because his posts weren't implicating enough for you either. However, his stance afterwards completely changed my mind and after seeing deus' defences, like I said, it's an easy switch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:46 GMT
#1113
On August 22 2013 05:43 OmniEulogy wrote:
Squibbles was just an AFK townie who didn't feel like playing anymore, he was the lurker who had 2 posts which even I said would have been a better person to lynch than Xzavier, not voting for him and then voting on LosK doesnt make Squibbles scum. Saying that also makes Deus scum because he didn't vote for Squibbles but instead went straight to LosK, and then to Xzavier. Good logic.



I told you deus tunnels. He tunneled lurkers, of course his vote would be on a lurker if he wasn't convinced that iv was scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:48 GMT
#1114
His tunnel on JAT all game should be evidence enough for that. If you look at last game he was also tunneling all game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#1116
He is exactly the same in this game as he was last game, the only difference is he has had pressure on him the entire time. He reads a lot of the guides and knows that the best thing to do when being attacked is to point out other peoples scum mistakes and why you should not be voted over anyone else. His only downside is tunneling. I am not so sure he would tunnel JAT for THIS long if he was scum, it just doesn't make any sense at all. In fact why am I even debating things with you. YOU ARE THE SCUM.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 21:11 GMT
#1118
The only people to have played with him last game were slam and me (and reps.........) and slam was scum so I don't know where the shit you get your information from.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#1120
and when did he say that sherlock? oh wait early on in the game, the part he was mentioning was day 1 where he pressure voted someone and that was his 'aggressiveness' people and him were talking about, the rest of the game he has been exactly the same, I WAS IN THIS GAME WHY ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO DEBATE THIS
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:19 GMT
#1131
nice try scum slipper
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:35 GMT
#1140
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 22 2013 07:16 OmniEulogy wrote:
simply put Deus, I kept my vote on you because you are my strongest town read, as you say three people switched to Slam meaning my vote on him would have been truely pointless, I would rather keep my vote on my top scum read to let people know where I stand instead of jumping onto Slam with everybody else. I was prepared to switch but instead wrote what I did at the end of D2.

More on Deus, as I've said before I believe you trying to make Slam seem town while about to be lynched for the last hour, and him trying to keep you from being lynched by jumping off your wagon and trying to find somebody else to vote for is still very much a possibility. The only reason JAT has given me for that not being possible anymore is that it doesn't sound very believable that two scum were on the Xzavier lynch. You (Deus) didn't think even 1 scum was on the lynch and criticized me heavily for pushing it so hard when now obviously there was at least 1 scum on it.

The other possibility as JAT mentioned is that Slam jumped onto Xzavier in order to save LosK who still would have been lynched even with you joining Xzavier (as it would have been tied 2-2 with LosK coming down from 3 votes) so if LosK is scum, Slam would have had to move to save him.

Also sorry JAT I was going in circles with Holy till he decided to call it quits, which he never really did. Also Deus's meta is still relevant @Holy because he's still one of my scum reads. How dumb do you have to be to think Deus is cleared as town just because Slam flipped scum (And that is all that has happened since the time you were ready to lynch Deus btw)

Deus vanished after Slam was lynched after trying to convince us he was town for an hour as well. Not even a "well done town! thank's for keeping me alive for another cycle!" nothing. He has been soft defending Slam for most of D2 and it's quite possible that the scum team just decided to both vote on Xzavier at the end cause honestly who the hell would see that coming.

I do think I got a bit too wrapped up on Deus though, as thinking about it logically it would seem that LosK would be the scum buddy by looking at the D1 lynch and through the conversations between Slam and LosK + LosK's behavior in general has not helped town very much at all. D2 however imo points towards both Deus and LosK equally. As I said earlier, I haven't played this game anywhere near perfectly but that =/= playing like scum. I've pushed my reads, contributed to town discussion, tried to get others to contribute and even while Holy was pushing me he's doing things I said town should do to try and hunt scum. I've been playing this entire game for the purpose of catching and lynching scum and I think my obsession over the D1 Lynch and my push to get people to focus on the people involved on it was well placed.



This is easy, he just scum slipped. Let's get this over with.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:36 GMT
#1142
On August 22 2013 07:35 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:22 DeusXmachina wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up

Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well.


Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out.

so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though

I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently.

I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now.

And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody.

As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town.
JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment
slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again.

I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier.





This is a post that I would point to as alignment indicative. It is his first in this game. Of the three candidates that he will focus on he focuses on Holy and Myself. At the time slam was not one of the best contributors, so this seems like a fake reason to "be ok with him currently". Another thing that really bugs me about this post, is when he says JAT is my strongest town read. I don't think JAT should have been anyone's strongest town read at this point in the game, unless you are scum and you know he is town.

JAT and Holy would you interpret this post in the same way? Anything else to point out? Is this alignment indicative?


Omni would you mind commenting on this? What were some of the contributions that caused you to overlook slam and focus on myself and holy?



being scum does that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:39 GMT
#1143
think of it this way, who would slam say in the qt would be the people to target? Me and you...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#1145
On August 22 2013 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Why are you doing this to me people?

I like Omnis point about slam trying to get people off Deus.
But I like Deus point about Omni being ok with slam when joining the thread, too.
Holy is the only one I am leaning town on but I don't like big parts of his reasoning against Omni.
iV is content just continuing not giving a fuck while not really being pressured by anyone (I would hate going into LYLO with him)...


because I was being lazy and only half believed myself when making a 'case' against him, that's why it looks weak, but now I'm actually convincing myself
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:45 GMT
#1148
yeh but who would slam tell him to target first? my reads in the first day last game were all the scum team, he 'might' try and tell him to pressure me into looking scummy first
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#1151
replacements don't get obs qt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:50 GMT
#1154
On August 22 2013 07:49 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
yeh but who would slam tell him to target first? my reads in the first day last game were all the scum team, he 'might' try and tell him to pressure me into looking scummy first


It's possible. How come slam did not try and pressure you though?


disassociation obviously
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2013 22:53 GMT
#1158
On August 22 2013 07:52 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2013 07:49 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 22 2013 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
yeh but who would slam tell him to target first? my reads in the first day last game were all the scum team, he 'might' try and tell him to pressure me into looking scummy first


It's possible. How come slam did not try and pressure you though?


disassociation obviously


Then why did he pressure me? lol



because the rest of the town did
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