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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:26 GMT
#1134
JAT was by far the best player on town D1, at that point the three of you - Deus, Holy, and Slam, we're absolutely useless townies who voted for Xzavier, Lone had been fairly null for me, and LosK had been being LosK, there were three players who didn't vote, and Koshi wasn't in the game yet.

JAT was the best town player you had D1. If you think that's weird after the shit storm you idiots caused you need to check your heads. Mind you I believe it's quite likely two of you were scum so... equally dumb move.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:30 GMT
#1136
look point of the matter is, if you think I'm scum go ahead and vote me, I'm flipping green if you do and then you're going to need to listen to what I'm telling you right now or you morons, and I'm pretty comfortable with calling you morons after the D1 lynch, are going to lose at LYLO.

@JAT I'm going through LosK's filter again now.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#1146
I was an observer during d1 so I might have been seeing things slightly differently than people actually playing the game / dealing with the emotions of trying to get through D1 and find scum with virtually nothing to go on but I felt like JAT was as I said before just... talking like a townie lol he seems inexperienced sure, we all are but he plays a LOT like most of the quiet townies I've played with who end up giving pretty good contributions and are there to bounce idea's off of and then come up with a case once or twice a day, which JAT had done pretty much as I would have expected of him if he was town. This is why he's kept his status as a townie for me.

posts like these I liked from him

On August 17 2013 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Not really. I didn't like some posts from Deus and the first one of Squibbles that much but this won't tell me anything. I'm just not a fan of this rather pointless policy discussions. People can talk alot about these things without adding any useful content.
I won't read to much into early contentless posts though. Bad experience last game.



On August 17 2013 21:19 justanothertownie wrote:
I will be here most of the time until the deadline btw. so if anyone wants to discuss something with me go ahead. I will read some filters right now because I think I caught something on the last pages (have to make sure).


He gave me the feeling of a townie who wanted to talk to people, try to open the game up and possibly scum hunt although he wasn't going to jump on anybody because of their first few posts. To me this is creating a town atmosphere which is something scum will never try to create.

So I came into the game expecting JAT to be town unless he started to do some really strange things, which he never did imo.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#1152
On August 22 2013 07:35 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:22 DeusXmachina wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up

Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well.


Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out.

so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though

I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently.

I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now.

And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody.

As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town.
JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment
slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again.

I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier.





This is a post that I would point to as alignment indicative. It is his first in this game. Of the three candidates that he will focus on he focuses on Holy and Myself. At the time slam was not one of the best contributors, so this seems like a fake reason to "be ok with him currently". Another thing that really bugs me about this post, is when he says JAT is my strongest town read. I don't think JAT should have been anyone's strongest town read at this point in the game, unless you are scum and you know he is town.

JAT and Holy would you interpret this post in the same way? Anything else to point out? Is this alignment indicative?


Omni would you mind commenting on this? What were some of the contributions that caused you to overlook slam and focus on myself and holy?



Holy because his vote was unique out of the three of you and I wanted to start with the xZavier lynch and build off it to catch scum, Holy's vote was very noticeable because of how it was placed, and then he went on to claim he was looking for the "safe" place to put his vote. That's a word town doesn't use while placing votes, and can sometimes be a scum slip.

I then went after you because before I made Holy's case I had said you were my strongest scum read, with Holy answering me fairly well I let him drop although I was and still am suspicious of him and focused on you, JAT made his case, I followed up and then continued to push for your lynch through D2. Slam was a close 2nd but because he left for half of D2 I continued to pressure you as Slam wouldn't have been able to answer anything I asked him. (And he never did)
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:53 GMT
#1157
yeah, I was just observing the game on my own as a replacement.

Also yeah yeah Holy fuck you too, when I flip green I'm sure you'll be overjoyed.

The only thing you are doing is fucking town over if I get lynched because then you look just as bad as LosK and Deus heading into LYLO
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:54 GMT
#1162
On August 22 2013 07:52 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:48 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 22 2013 07:35 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 22 2013 07:22 DeusXmachina wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up

Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well.


Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out.

so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though

I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently.

I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now.

And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody.

As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town.
JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment
slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again.

I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier.





This is a post that I would point to as alignment indicative. It is his first in this game. Of the three candidates that he will focus on he focuses on Holy and Myself. At the time slam was not one of the best contributors, so this seems like a fake reason to "be ok with him currently". Another thing that really bugs me about this post, is when he says JAT is my strongest town read. I don't think JAT should have been anyone's strongest town read at this point in the game, unless you are scum and you know he is town.

JAT and Holy would you interpret this post in the same way? Anything else to point out? Is this alignment indicative?


Omni would you mind commenting on this? What were some of the contributions that caused you to overlook slam and focus on myself and holy?



Holy because his vote was unique out of the three of you and I wanted to start with the xZavier lynch and build off it to catch scum, Holy's vote was very noticeable because of how it was placed, and then he went on to claim he was looking for the "safe" place to put his vote. That's a word town doesn't use while placing votes, and can sometimes be a scum slip.

I then went after you because before I made Holy's case I had said you were my strongest scum read, with Holy answering me fairly well I let him drop although I was and still am suspicious of him and focused on you, JAT made his case, I followed up and then continued to push for your lynch through D2. Slam was a close 2nd but because he left for half of D2 I continued to pressure you as Slam wouldn't have been able to answer anything I asked him. (And he never did)


So are you saying it was by a process of elimination. You thought that Holy and I were better targets so you focused on us. Then why did you say he was one of the most constant contributors (because he wasn't)?


contribution in the sense of activity out of the three of you, the more scum talks the more likely they are to screw up, and he talked a lot. I still said he was scummy and should be looked at as the other option besides you for the D2 lynch for... the entire day.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:57 GMT
#1164
clearly the guy you voted for right? lol
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:02 GMT
#1172
On August 22 2013 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
also great to bring up an entire case on losk and hope NOBODY WOULD VOTE ON HIM BECAUSE OF IT, logic much


unlike you I'm still trying to scum hunt, also apparently you could still put in your 2 cents on losk but couldn't change your vote from xZavier. Smooth move there.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:21 GMT
#1177
yeah yeah, I'm going to flip town and you guys are going to have to decide between Deus, LosK, and Holy is going to look absolutely terrible for his lack of cases, other than on Slam and doesn't follow it up and then for the first time in a full week makes a very weak case about me and mostly Slam - he intentionally avoids trying to mention my filter because everything in it leans town, his rehashing of my and JAT cases on Deus (who he also pushed the majority of D2 without adding anything new), JAT seriously man I'll go over LosK's filter and hope I hit something big cause right now any three of Holy, Deus, and LosK could be the remaining scum to some degree and it will literally be down to you after today to figure that out if I get lynched.

I've said it before but if you listen to this moron and lynch me, You better be sure as fuck who you're going to lynch the next day because otherwise you lose.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:22 GMT
#1178
[QUOTE]On August 22 2013 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2013 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
also great to bring up an entire case on losk and hope NOBODY WOULD VOTE ON HIM BECAUSE OF IT, logic much[/QUOTE]
why scum hunt when i've found the scum[/QUOTE]

You've been really really bad at this part the WHOLE game. lol
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:29 GMT
#1180
On August 22 2013 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 08:21 OmniEulogy wrote:
yeah yeah, I'm going to flip town and you guys are going to have to decide between Deus, LosK, and Holy is going to look absolutely terrible for his lack of cases, other than on Slam and doesn't follow it up and then for the first time in a full week makes a very weak case about me and mostly Slam - he intentionally avoids trying to mention my filter because everything in it leans town, his rehashing of my and JAT cases on Deus (who he also pushed the majority of D2 without adding anything new), JAT seriously man I'll go over LosK's filter and hope I hit something big cause right now any three of Holy, Deus, and LosK could be the remaining scum to some degree and it will literally be down to you after today to figure that out if I get lynched.

I've said it before but if you listen to this moron and lynch me, You better be sure as fuck who you're going to lynch the next day because otherwise you lose.


slam deus and losk and now yours with little conviction because like I said earlier I didn't believe it myself but now I do.


I'm just going to keep repeating this, but I know you won't get it.

I'm going to flip town. I haven't lied once this game, I'm not going to lie now. If you lynch me that's fine, as long as the rest of you understand what you are going to do and lynch the remaining scum.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:43 GMT
#1182
you didn't convince anybody to switch to Slam... if anything it just looks like you bussed him. JAT and Lone made the jump to lynch him and actually gave a reason for it. Not this "Deus has been defending himself, scum would never do that!"

Take credit for what they did as well, how nice. I've already explained why I stayed on Deus as well, it's not a scummy move.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:52 GMT
#1187
On August 22 2013 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
If I didn't switch nobody would have either.


LOL after his vote on Lone I was going to switch, but then you and JAT / Lone switched to him so I didn't need to. GJ for doing the obvious I'm really proud of you, but acting like you did it is hilarious.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 23:58 GMT
#1189
like... I literally posted, went to get a drink, refreshed and saw 3 votes on Slam and posted what I did at the end of D2. And you bussing Slam still makes sense, as I said before Scum would never expect to get to the end of the game with two people, this was a REALLY good chance to bus Slam seeing as how badly he was playing, if I was the other scum player, as soon as he made that vote I would have been the first to switch to him, no questions asked. It just makes sense from a scum p.o.v

And then immediately you try to claim all the credit and get really overly into the fact that you did it all, that is really suspicious, especially with you now trying to lynch me and using 0 points from my filter and even agreeing with most of my reads + things I've said earlier. After I flip town you are going to look so fucking bad and if you are town you've pretty much screwed us all. TWICE. I should add. so yeah... gz on switching to Slam, that was a really uh... "easy" move you made.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 22 2013 00:01 GMT
#1191
On August 21 2013 02:57 Holyflare wrote:
jesus christ this is the biggest clusterfuck of shit i've seen before a day end


This is him trying to convince you to vote Slam everybody. Very convincing. rofl what a joker.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#1192
On August 22 2013 09:01 Holyflare wrote:
want some stuff from your filter?

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:59 LoneMeow wrote:
EBWOP:


##Unvote
##Vote: Alakaslam



hey look, 2.59 to secure the lynch, you sure as shit left it late to agree with us on lynching him

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 03:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm perfectly fine with a lynch on Alakaslam today as well. he's a VERY close 2nd on my reads. I'm keeping my vote on Deus as my #1 scum read though.



oh wait you had to wait till 3.00, the actual deadline before you even mentioned slam and stayed on deus, ahahaha I hope people see this is the biggest slip since ever


i just said I came back hit refresh and posted immediately, you are such a joke.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 22 2013 00:05 GMT
#1195
If you are in a scum QT together, that's pretty convenient timing. scumslip Holy?
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#1199
On August 22 2013 09:07 Holyflare wrote:
just like it's pretty convenient for your refresh right?


you're damn straight you scummer. you got me. lol
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#1200
gg guys I give.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#1201
nicely played Holy, well done man. I'm sorry I'm such a dick during this LOL
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