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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 19:03 GMT
#1056
You can literally do that on Lone as well Holy and he never even comes up, Slam didn't give any real reads, I even asked him questions and he never answered them now that I look back at it. That's indicative of him being scum, not of me being scum.

Go through my filter, I've pushed my reads, I've contributed when asked, and I've tried to create conversation centered around scum hunting this entire game. Your goggles are pretty thick right now.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 19:34 GMT
#1069
On August 22 2013 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
But lone is dead and you are not.


literally doesn't address a single thing I just said. Yes I haven't played perfectly this game but not playing perfectly =/= being scum. My actions don't make sense from a scum point of view either, as I said read through my filter, I've been contributing all game long, pushing my reads, and I sure as hell didn't KNOW Slam would flip scum, my #1 read was Deus, #2 Slam. Why do you act like you knew Slam would flip scum while only acting on hindsight? It's stupid. Only Scum would know Slam was going to flip Scum, I don't know if you figured that out yet though. You were literally on the Deus bus pushing hard till Slam's 2nd extremely scummy vote and then bailed asap. Scum would know Slam would eventually get caught and lynched for how he was playing and would be ready to bus him to get town cred. You make it sound like I was trying to keep Slam alive without bussing him on top of all this. Scum wouldn't rely on having both players make it to the end game.

You're whole point that Slam doesn't mention me very much applies to a lot of people, that's how he was playing, as I said you literally can't find Lone anywhere in his filter, his conversations with LosK are completely pointless, and he straight up avoids answering my questions directed at him during D2.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#1075
So you are saying that now you are tunneling me and we have no hope for you? Good to know.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#1077
You aren't even coming close. I don't think you actually know what that means.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 19:54 GMT
#1080
On August 22 2013 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
entertain other notions and put out theories that I do not necessarily agree with, I'm not sure you understand what it means to be honest


you google that and have to quote it? Let me know where you're actually doing that though. You need another person putting something forward in order to do it, and all I've seen is you get out your shovel and start tunneling. Thanks for thinking my idea was really good and benefits town though.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:03 GMT
#1084
Thats not playing devils advocate Holy.... if all you can do is argue semantics and then get upset about it though be my guest, keep making no point and being wrong. I'm defending myself from your terrible tunneling, I don't have an issue with it but it's still annoying when you have literally 0 points other than "Slam didn't like to talk about Omni" I've disproved that already, He didn't talk about a lot of people. thanks for being a broken record though. That picture you posted about LosK applies to yourself as well it seems. Get off my back monkey, you're annoying but that's just about all.

When you're case turns into "Why are you defending yourself! Is it because You ARE scum!!!" you know you've made a wrong turn somewhere.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:18 GMT
#1091
He actively deflected FROM me too, it's how he was playing, I've addressed that already. You just aren't reading and computing it. Or you are just ignoring it and continuing to tunnel deeper, making you useless to us D3 if you are town. Although with your "placeholder" vote on Xzavier and your "hey look I made a case on slam 36 hours ago, and even though he had three pages of filter after I totally shut him up!" I don't even know what to call it... you weren't exactly the most helpful town player we had in the first place. I think this case on me is actually the first time you've tried to pressure somebody with a read, it only took you nearly seven days!

##Vote: DeusXmachina

I'm still going to vote for my scum read, who happened to try to make Slam seem town till the very end, and who Slam jumped off of and then tried to get Lone lynched instead of Deus.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#1094
So... because Slam said he had to leave and couldn't play for that day you take credit for.... taking his computer away then? Are you using his inability to post as your reason??? just lol is right.

Anyway JAT who in their right mind would vote on Xzavier D1 in the first place? This is the type of shit that is 1 scum did it, especially in the way Slam did it, there is probably another one on Xzavier. Slam had no reason to last minute jump onto Xzavier if he wasn't following some sort of weird plan imo.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#1095
EBWOP: is = if
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#1101
So you are saying he fell apart and posted three more pages of filter that look pretty much as useful as every other page? keep beating that dead horse Holy, see how far it'll take you.

@JAT in my night post that's the only person I mention, as that is the other possibility.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#1102
EBWOP: Only other*
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#1108
On August 22 2013 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:34 OmniEulogy wrote:
So you are saying he fell apart and posted three more pages of filter that look pretty much as useful as every other page? keep beating that dead horse Holy, see how far it'll take you.

@JAT in my night post that's the only person I mention, as that is the other possibility.



His posts before what I said were a lot more useful and did not implicate him as much as after my post. Stop being a tool you haven't even read them.


so the case that you made about his posts being useless was wrong and you are saying his posts were now useful?
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#1109
Squibbles was just an AFK townie who didn't feel like playing anymore, he was the lurker who had 2 posts which even I said would have been a better person to lynch than Xzavier, not voting for him and then voting on LosK doesnt make Squibbles scum. Saying that also makes Deus scum because he didn't vote for Squibbles but instead went straight to LosK, and then to Xzavier. Good logic.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:44 GMT
#1111
not being sarcastic either, this means you yet again agree with my reads. lol
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#1115
I don't care what Deus was doing last game, people also said he was much more aggressive as town, I haven't seen any of that, why are you only looking at part of his play style as town from the last game and ignoring the entire other part? That's such a dumb reason to claim he's town this game.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 21:09 GMT
#1117
so you ran out of points and are reverting to this again huh... People keep saying he's nothing like he was last game, and he didn't defend himself well at all. You are crazy if you think "please don't lynch me, Slam is town, JAT is scum because he's been quiet, please town don't lynch me" is trying to point out scum mistakes. lol He literally clung to the JAT is scum raft till Slam made his weird vote on Lone and got lynched for it. Deus gets to live another day because of Slam making a terrible mistake, not because Deus pointed any out.

Holy you are the weakest link! Goodbye.

but seriously I'm gonna make dinner. I'll be back later.
LiquidDota Staff
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 21:41 GMT
#1119
On August 22 2013 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
The only people to have played with him last game were slam and me (and reps.........) and slam was scum so I don't know where the shit you get your information from.


where... where where where do I get this idea from... man... oh wait, this is from what Deus said earlier, while referring to people talking about how he's not as aggressive this game.

"Quickly, last thing, why the hell are people looking at my meta and saying, "oh he is not as aggressive as last game, that's scummy". We had a discussion on meta during policy chat and came to the conclusion that is not very useful in newb games."

I could quote the multiple times people accused him of not being as aggressive but I figure the person himself owning up to the fact that he isn't should work just as well. That's the shit I got it from!
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:16 GMT
#1129
simply put Deus, I kept my vote on you because you are my strongest town read, as you say three people switched to Slam meaning my vote on him would have been truely pointless, I would rather keep my vote on my top scum read to let people know where I stand instead of jumping onto Slam with everybody else. I was prepared to switch but instead wrote what I did at the end of D2.

More on Deus, as I've said before I believe you trying to make Slam seem town while about to be lynched for the last hour, and him trying to keep you from being lynched by jumping off your wagon and trying to find somebody else to vote for is still very much a possibility. The only reason JAT has given me for that not being possible anymore is that it doesn't sound very believable that two scum were on the Xzavier lynch. You (Deus) didn't think even 1 scum was on the lynch and criticized me heavily for pushing it so hard when now obviously there was at least 1 scum on it.

The other possibility as JAT mentioned is that Slam jumped onto Xzavier in order to save LosK who still would have been lynched even with you joining Xzavier (as it would have been tied 2-2 with LosK coming down from 3 votes) so if LosK is scum, Slam would have had to move to save him.

Also sorry JAT I was going in circles with Holy till he decided to call it quits, which he never really did. Also Deus's meta is still relevant @Holy because he's still one of my scum reads. How dumb do you have to be to think Deus is cleared as town just because Slam flipped scum (And that is all that has happened since the time you were ready to lynch Deus btw)

Deus vanished after Slam was lynched after trying to convince us he was town for an hour as well. Not even a "well done town! thank's for keeping me alive for another cycle!" nothing. He has been soft defending Slam for most of D2 and it's quite possible that the scum team just decided to both vote on Xzavier at the end cause honestly who the hell would see that coming.

I do think I got a bit too wrapped up on Deus though, as thinking about it logically it would seem that LosK would be the scum buddy by looking at the D1 lynch and through the conversations between Slam and LosK + LosK's behavior in general has not helped town very much at all. D2 however imo points towards both Deus and LosK equally. As I said earlier, I haven't played this game anywhere near perfectly but that =/= playing like scum. I've pushed my reads, contributed to town discussion, tried to get others to contribute and even while Holy was pushing me he's doing things I said town should do to try and hunt scum. I've been playing this entire game for the purpose of catching and lynching scum and I think my obsession over the D1 Lynch and my push to get people to focus on the people involved on it was well placed.
LiquidDota Staff
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:17 GMT
#1130
scum read* not town read. edited way too much during writing that lol
LiquidDota Staff
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:23 GMT
#1133
On August 22 2013 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
nice try scum slipper



<3 holy but accidentally not changing "he's nowhere near a town read" to "he's my strongest scum read" and then not deleting the whole sentence when rewriting it and then adding things to different paragraphs will do that to you.
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