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On September 17 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote: That sounds like the worst thing ever. I'm ever so slowly moving into the less is more camp. 50 page filter incoming | ||
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On September 17 2013 23:58 yamato77 wrote: /in Marv also happened upon some of the worst games that were played since we started all this. Doesn't get to see me win at LYLO all the time, hue What changed from the previous the games? Mostly the same players right? Unless........ | ||
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On September 18 2013 00:01 Clarity_nl wrote: People were sleepy or waking up or something, not sure. But basically the first 2-3 games were like "ermm... sooo. I guess this person might be scum" and town would go "yeah I guess you have a point" and then someone would get lynched. Only with more talking over eachother loudly. can we just blame marv instead? | ||
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On September 18 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote: why as an IC would you change your posting style preemptive mafia excuses imoimo i will not even dignify this ludicrous accusation with a response. | ||
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On September 25 2013 05:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: No I don't. I'm questioning his last post: you know he is pretty much confirmed town right? | ||
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On September 25 2013 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote: This is false. No one is confirmed town except for the dead. We have claims. Whether you believe the claims or not is your own thing, but no one in the game left alive is confirmed town. do you have reason to not believe him? No you dont | ||
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On September 25 2013 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote: The fact that there are only 3 kills weighs on my mind. The fact that I was suspicious of Coag, and that he's claimed one of the three kills last night. The fact that Yamato hasn't done shit since the day post except try and leverage his position. Yes, iamp, I do have reason not to believe him. Fucking ass. so you think its more likely that two scum made fake claims then it being the far simpler explanation that they are simply town. Or does it upset you that we may have confirmed townies running around? | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote: I was just reading Umasi's filter and I'm having a bit of trouble following his thought process. We see an OMGUS vote on Sentinel. Not really alignment indicative because town are guilty of this just like mafia are. Then he gets pressured by rayn about his vote and slowly backs off, explaining that his vote was simply the best of the options available to him. Note how the confidence in his reads has drastically diminished over the course of these two posts. Then, near lynch, we have these kinds of posts. He doesn't take a stance on the two candidates that are most likely to be lynched, as if he knows both are town and doesn't want to risk changing his vote and being called scum for it. He also is now suddenly way more confident that Sentinel is scum, despite being dissuaded by rayn at one point in the thread. :/ I don't like Umasi at all. this is actually a very good point. He also say he is firm believer in not lynching for information but that firmness apparently disappears with rayn | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I filtered you earlier and didn't like what I read. Feel free to filter me to get an idea of why. what do you think of tofus point he made on umasi? | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Can anyone tell me who iamp replaced without telling me to RTFT? onegu | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, yeah you're gonna have to do something then iamp. You being here interacting with the thread without giving any kind of thougths on the gamestate is scummy as hell. It feels more like you're trying to manipulate town sentiment rather than trying to gather information. im actually working on my analyze every player in the game post but then i f5 the thread and saw something stupid and i had to comment and have been distracted ever since | ||
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On September 25 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote: He's here. As is the Mattchew case. Gigogogo! as in you want a peek on my notes i guess i can oblige 27: Mattchew-scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum | ||
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On September 25 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote: *glare* Wasn't Frued Australian? Austrian | ||
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On September 25 2013 10:00 justanothertownie wrote: A bit you say? I guess I am staying up then... my definition of a bit is an hour or two | ||
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town because dp being a little bitch about people calling him scum and then replacing out because of it means he is extremely likely to be town. Plus he was pretty active and in the spotlight day one anyways. 2: raynpelikoneet- town his most recent push on firm while misguides seemed legit at least and looked like he was at least trying to figure out alignments and overall good activity and seems to have been one of the major players. He is good as scum but i think he has been legit and real in his posts. 5: yamato77- town he just is plus he got protected and he wouldnt lie about that. Also was active before that 6: kushm4sta- dont know. Rember the days when he used to be meiocore at this game. Now it seems like he spends his time just bithcing and moaning. 8: ObviousOne- annoying but seems to have a matter fact way of not wanting to explain himself. bad but likely town. 10: FirmTofu- Town This kid is town he has explained himself over and over agains hasnt really been afraid of the spotlight. Also has used his time to contribute in the right way with pushing see umasi instead of just defending himself this is what you do as town when you have pressure on you. you give your reads and your thoughts regardless of the pressure you dont complain. He is town 11: Pandain- his sent push seems legit and seems to have some of the same reasoning i have. If he is thinking like means he is probally town. needs more actvity. 12: Cephiro- seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him. 13: Mr. Cheesecake- im excused from reading him because i hate him. he will probally at some point afk from this game and be active somewhere else on tl. 14: decondu- confused about why yamato was town would likely know his scum team shot yamato so slight indication he might be town i dont feel strong about need to see more from him. 15: Coagulation- town no reason to not belive he is the vig with his and yamtos claims 16: Stutters695- martyer hate that shit but who knows probally bad town though 17: iamperfection- IC 18: Zenatsu/molango- a double lurker. A sure sign of the apoclypse. 19: [UoN]Sentinel- scum this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=85#1699 say absoloutly nothing on a major topic while sudetly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. He has given some decent reasoning for some his thoughts later on so he isnt my strongest scum read but that day 1 still reads as scum. 20: VisceraEyes- I dont really understand his existential crisis that he all of sudden for no real good reason but i dont see the scum motivation. Like he didnt use it as an excuse to not talk about the game as he is still talking so i would say town on him. has been generally active and talking about the game. His thinking that it may be possible both coag and yamato could be scum is kind of ridiclous as in to ridiclous to come from scum. 22: geript- scum his biggest contribution for the entire game was to tunnel dp and make him rage quit. outside of that the rest of his day one was useless and hasnt done anything this cycle scum 23: Risen- i dont fucking know hasnt really done anything could be scum in fact i would say leaning scum 24: LoneMeow- dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly. 25: marvellosity- Town seems active and intrested i will say town and improve my record of reading him almost always correctly. seems to have setled into the role of town leader. 26: Zaragon- scum played the im a newbie card kind of wierd that he would go after ve as scum but in effect his vote was wasted and did nothing of vlaue. Says stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=87#1721 says sent isnt great case but leaning scum????????? dont know what that means. and wants to say im not sure it seems a lot and never really reaches solid conlusions that much. 27: Mattchew- scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum Umasi-scumi will give credit to firmtofu here i think he made solid point here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=151#3011 hes scum for that i would say 29: justanothertownie- was going to stay up to see my post +1 for eagerly awaiting iamperfection posts. outside of that he hasnt done a ton and hasnt had strong reads but seems to be self aware of that fact in a matter of fact way. My gut would say town. 30: Mocsta-towni like his case been active extremely likely town i would say efort etc.... | ||
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respond to my stuff right wrong dumb stupid perfect? perfect is the correct answer but please respond everyone | ||
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On September 25 2013 12:39 yamato77 wrote: I'm not convinced Matt will flip scum, bro. why? he dosn't seem to care about town he aint doing shit with the spotlight on him. he has an extremely high chance of flipping scum. | ||
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Cephiro lynch would be ok maybe like 55 60 percent. Shity way for him to play as scum but i could definitely see a scum using his constant ill totes contribute later and just never do it. panda bear guy im not so hot on for his lynch. Basically it isnt super clear who he wants to lynch the most right now even though he said he aims to do that today. like with mattchews defense i don't really know who i want to lynch either so i don't think that's a smoking gun. best course of action would be just to see what he does today. | ||
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On September 25 2013 22:56 marvellosity wrote: Or rather, who would you say your realistic candidates are? ive been reading risen a bit more and i think he could be an excellent lynch. I dont know if you followed got but as town he was the guy that was super bat shit crazy and hey everyone look at me. Would do this pretty much throughout the game. I dont get that same feeling from this game. Sure he says some dumb stuff but i never got the sense that risen was in the spotlight at all through my read through nor did he make many attempts to grab said spotlight. Seems to me that he is fine leaning back and not doing much like this makes no sense to me http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=160#3183 he posted whatever he wanted in got even with almost the entire thread calling him stupid. | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote: You spent hours on a massive listpost, in which there were like 6 players scummier than Risen? What happened to them? I don't like your posting iamp. If you're trying a new style or something, stop it, because it's making me suspicious. do you think risen is town? who cares if i listed other people scummier im reading risen now and im thinking he isn't town. | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:20 marvellosity wrote: I'm pretty null on Risen. would you say he has put himself in the spotlight much at all? | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:21 marvellosity wrote: no, but the same can be applied to Cephiro. Why is Cephiro coinflippy and Risen the best chance for a lynch right now? because i have played with risen recently cephiro i have never met ( i think?) | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:23 marvellosity wrote: That never normally stops you. Oh well, I'm going to leave you alone and see how you perform. what do you mean? | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:30 yamato77 wrote: he means that if left to your own devices, you will show your alignment im asking about the first part | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:31 marvellosity wrote: It doesn't matter. wat | ||
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people comment on what i have said about risen you can check a recent town game here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=Risen i would say his play this game has been different and most importantly different in a scummy way in that he seems much more in the background then he was in that game. | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:01 marvellosity wrote: He doesn't do 'this' as mafia either. What of it? so what has he done this game that makes him town? | ||
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We don't have to waste a lynch on him if doesn't come back and its been 24 hours since he posted | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:38 marvellosity wrote: iamp! your main scumread is recently in the thread. why don't you ask him some questions? Can you stop being annoying you said you were going to give me room to operate in order to prove my alignment instead you do this crap. If I have a question I'll ask it. And in fact I already asked a question to risen and he didn't directly answer but he says ft hasn't preformed well this cycle which I vehemently disagree with. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:58 Risen wrote: What question? And what has ft done to make you think that way? why dont you like about his push about his umasi? He hasn't shyed away at all from the spotlight when its on him. He could as scum so easily just run away and give up he hasnt he has tried to post his thoughts and his reasoning. | ||
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without actual notes he could have done this in 5 min anyway. This is meaningless discussion. | ||
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i know I'm a great detective. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: iamp who do you want to lynch? Well unfortunately we don't have that many people here it seems. which leaves not that much room for shenanigans so it looks like it will cephiro or lone are the only realistic choices. and i could do either or | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:04 Koshi wrote: Ok. You get 2 votes if you tell me where to put it. I chechK in 1 more time after brushing teeth. am i your top town read or something or do you just not give a shit? | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote: Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates. Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post: I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway. LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one: However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie. Cephiro: These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do. #Vote: Cephiro Who's this guy? replaced xzavier hasn't done shit. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:36 Mocsta wrote: Im not. Im not voting till the last 5minutes. Dont like it, then GTFO fuck off with the trolling we dont need it | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:53 Mocsta wrote: Problem I have with deconduo is that I dont get the impression he has tried to read the thread, even though he has commented on some peculiar things (e.g. the yamato confirmed town thing). Im not even sure why he made the comment about mattchew with the medic save on WoS... just really peculiar shit. Thing is, im of the same mindset as yam.. deconduo is the guy who was town and used the janitor role (and i shot him) so i dont trust my perception of him in the slightest. *sorry dude* I need a case to chew on to consider him seriously. hes got like 5 posts any case resolves on what he just did i noticed the yamto thing earlier too but its not enough to think he is town after what he has just done | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Mocsta looks really really bad for doing what he just did imo. doing what | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:39 VisceraEyes wrote: The attention is flattering, but I promise you'll be disappointed you didn't spend your time more wisely once I flip. why are you using your so called flip as a bargaining chip when your in no danger of being nor probally being shot most likely. Whats with this defeatist attitude ve it makes no sense | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Because I feel like we're about to lynch town again and tomorrow I'm going to be a really easy target unless Mocsta is telling the truth and actually checks me. And even then, I'll likely STILL get lynched because of my play the last two days. Not saying I'm giving up - just that I have little faith in town. man up if your town | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote: I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself. Vote: Cephiro do you think he is scum? | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:50 LoneMeow wrote: Uncertain. Not caught up. All I know is, I am the doctor that saved yamato. i think your lying | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I can't see LoneMeow protecting Yamato! He has no mention of him till now, and had a town read on other players but seemingly not yam | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:55 LoneMeow wrote: There is no crumb. Waste of time to look. you dont even talk about yamato at all there is no reasoning why you would protect him if you were dr. die scum | ||
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Don't shoot geript i think despite my hatred for such a player he is town. His trolling and ninja voting while super annoying and no town player should ever do it is more of indication of him being town. It puts a huge target on his back and gives him a ton of attention and despite what i am saying here a lot of players would vig him anyways. Its a sucidal strategy and it is likely coming from an idiot townie. I think Mr CC is town. He did the same thing i did when he saw the claim. Opened his filter to see if it made any sense it did not. This looks like to me that he is trying to figure things out. Mr cc would have known that lone was telling the truth if he was scum. conversely Sents reaction troubles me the most because he instantly believed it and didn't even bother to look for reasoning. Marv if your not gonna bother to show up around the lynch don't complain about the result. Its extremely likely your town and you fucking off two hours before when we need you is unacceptable. don't do it again. for night actions drs on yamato and marv dts do what you want | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote: why are you saying retarded things? how am i supposed to stay up for a 5am lynch when i work a fulltime job? you said you were going to watch got | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote: yes, about 6 hours before the lynch. I did indeed watch GoT then I went to bed. Because I work and functionally need to sleep and shit. What are you talking about your last post was like 2 hours before the lynch | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:39 yamato77 wrote: why did you only take a stance on the lynch when LM claimed doctor? because i was debating on who to kill and this is what happened in front of me. I looked at his filter and thought he was full of shit | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:42 yamato77 wrote: why did you not believe him before the counterclaim? there's seriously no good reason to lynch the claim without one i never believed him. He came in 10 mins before the lynch to claim dr. When you open his filter there is no mention of yamato. That looks like a fake claim to me just in hope to get a counter claim. So you wrong i had reasons | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:47 yamato77 wrote: Him not mentioning me does not mean he didn't have a townread of me. Nor is the timing of a claim scummy. Marv claimed cop 30 mins before lynch once, and he was town. I don't believe you, iamp. Marv isn't lone. Like i have decided that when I get blue role I'm not gonna crumb anything anymore because there is no reason for me to do so. Lone had no presence in the game I don't understand why anyone would believe his claim. | ||
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On September 27 2013 08:00 marvellosity wrote: I find it odd that you'd be so quick to disbelieve it given your earlier list post: You thought he might be super-bad town, he claimed doctor, and he must be scum fakeclaiming? Smelly. I opened his filter when he claimed and thought he was lying nothing more I can say | ||
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On September 27 2013 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Even in spite of my exclamation that he couldn't make that claim as scum at that moment? Implying? | ||
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On September 27 2013 09:32 deconduo wrote: Where were people calling me out? Also I usually wouldn't be around at the deadline (4am my time), insomnia kept me awake last night. Yeah, maybe you're right. I just can't imagine a scum posting that line completely off the cuff. right after your vote post on cephiro. You reading the thread? | ||
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On September 27 2013 09:41 deconduo wrote: So by 'people' you mean you and Cheesecake? Neither of you said anything worthy of a response tbh. If you had actually read my post properly you would have had the answers to your questions. why not participate anyways? and those posts aren't an adequate reasoning for thinking ceph is scum based solely on that. Like because he doesn't want to role claim he must be scum??? Really? | ||
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stutters- i Have no idea he is almost always useless Kush- Whiner complainer who knows. Says he is sick which i could see him lying about. See if he actually replaces Umasi- Still like the point that firm brought up and he really hasn't talked about the game much. some of the things he talked about regarding sent seem weird i guess? Like i don't really understand the point he is trying to make but he seems just as confused as me so hey maybe he is town. VisceraEyes- Like i dont get his apathy earlier but he has said some things that makes sense botherd to show up and seemed to care about the lynch. Maybe that a sign he is town because he seems somewhat all over the place like his thoughts kind of change pretty fluidly recently with regards to me so could be trying to figure things. ------------------------------------- Scummers cephiro- i sheep marv Decondu- Regardless of what cephiros alignment is i think he is scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=191#3813 His reasoning is makes no sense and he never explains even when called out for that crap. After being called out he does absolutely nothing up until the deadline. No discussion no attempts to figure out alignments or establish his innocence. Combine this with terrible activity but ability to be around the lynch apparently. He isn't hunting scum because he is scum. Sent- this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=85#1699 say absolutely nothing on a major topic while subtly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. Also didn't like his response to the claim. He just immediately believes it and i know he had a town read on him but still townies are naturally supicious he dosnt go look he dosnt freak out much just proclaiming ha i was right fuck you guys i don't see the figuring out of alignments near the deadline Risen- Hes not contributing he is just calling town bad and has apathy that i think is fake. All he does is shit on town and say herp derp town not listening to me. He isnt trying hard to push lynches. Townies want to lynch scum and it seems he just wants to over exaggerate town mistakes and complain rather than hunt scum. im also having a hard time finding a ton of definite scum reads so i think its possible that molango slot could be scum or an active scum but i have a hard time finding active scum unless im super familiar with them. | ||
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fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it | ||
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On September 27 2013 11:14 Coagulation wrote: Also ve is scum why? | ||
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On September 27 2013 11:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Like Coag AND Umasi had no input overnight, then within 5 minutes of the day starting, they're both up in here trying to suck marv's dick. Like, no one EVER lynches into the dead's scumlist, like EVER. What the fuck is going on here? i get maybe being upset about umasi but coag is confirmed now so whats your point. marv bet his reputation on this lynch. | ||
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On September 27 2013 13:58 FirmTofu wrote: So you are eliminating the possibility of a scum aligned vig and insinuating that I did not read the thread. I feel like you really, really want me to vote you. Much obliged. ##vote: geript op is useful | ||
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On September 27 2013 14:08 FirmTofu wrote: @iamp Of Umasi and rayn, who do you think is scum? i just talked about umasi and im leaning more town on him. Rayn i dont have a clue. would have to read very closely if i have time ill do it tomorrow past my bed time now | ||
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On September 27 2013 22:16 ObviousOne wrote: If you can tell me why your quick cheesecake town read is bad from the LM aftermath, I will respond. It isn't | ||
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Explain why it's bad moc | ||
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where you say cc is fucked and other points regarding decondu looks like the same analysis that i put in when decondu came in. I thought he looked extremely bad yet you twist to say well he must be defending cephiro. You fail to account for maybe he is just reading decondu at the time which is clearly evident with the point you made about this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=192#3822 This post is clearly reacting to deocondus entrance to the thread. You had similar points revolving around decondu and you took as a defense of cephiro where i see it as just an attempt to analyze decondus entrance to the thread. On top of that most of your points dont you say yourself are either non tells or dont say anything about aligment. Your main revolves around decondu and his reaction to it and you took it as a defense which i think is just wrong as it was just a reaction. You cant just take posts out of context what is happening in the thread at the time is a big part of trying to figure out alignments. Since mr. CC had similar reactions to myself it leads me to believe he is town. 1. him finding decondu scummy for the way he came in voted and left 2. the immediate reaction to the claim to go look if it is legit ( remember mr cc would know lone was telling the truth if he were scum) On top of that Mr. CC caring about the lynch and the fluid and open dialouge he was having throughout it points to him more likely to be town. Hard for most scum to do that. | ||
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On September 27 2013 09:40 Cephiro wrote: To clarify, are you saying that after leaving now, you won't be back for a full 48 hours? Nope. If I'm alive tomorrow, I'll be completely free later in the evening. So in ~18 hours or so. [/QUOTE] He better be scum | ||
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On September 29 2013 10:59 Coagulation wrote: so either ceph getting thrown under the bus like a bitch or we lynchin a townie. usually is one or the other | ||
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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Role List This is a semi closed setup, the roles are known but the exact number is not. Not all of these roles may be present in the game. Townie You are a Townie. While you don't have any special powers, it is your voice and your vote that will win the game. The town will depend on your analysis to find the mafia. Doctor You are the Doctor! Once per night you may PM me the name of someone you'd like to protect during the night and they will be able to survive 1 KP sent their way. Sadly your hospital has rules and you can't protect the same person two nights in a row. If you successfully save someone both you and your target will be notified. Parity Cop You are the parity cop! Instead of receiving "Innocent" or "Guilty" your targets will be compared for Alignment. On Night 1 you will receive no result. Every night after, the new person you investigate will be compared with the person you investigated the prior night. If they are all of the same alignment you will receive "Same" otherwise you will receive "Different". Unfortunately due to your low budget, your investigations can be fooled by a framer or godfather. Vigilante You are the Vigilante! You've seen this town go downhill from the mafia influence and you're determined to do something about it. You have one bullet which you may fire during the night by PMing me the player you wish to die. If your shot is blocked by a Doctor, your bullet will be refunded. If you are roleblocked your gun will not fire and you will not lose your bullet. Roleblocker You have the power to prevent anyone from using their role during the night phase. You may only use your ability once per night phase, and you cannot roleblock the same player twice in a row. Your target will be notified they have been roleblocked regardless of whether they have a role. Godfather You are the ringleader of your little band of villains. Due to your many years in the family business, you have become adept at hiding your crimes and will appear as a townie to parity cop checks. Framer You are the framer! Each night you can visit someone and frame them so they will show up as scum to parity cop checks. Unfortunately, you can't frame the same person two nights in a row since. Is this correct besides the missing of vanilla mafia | ||
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On September 29 2013 12:21 justanothertownie wrote: I don't like this post. No, not at all. lol | ||
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On September 29 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote: believe in marv and he shall deliver referring to cephiro. lynch you 100% because of policy imo. (policy referring to your retarded doctor fakeclaim) why do you want a policy lynch when we need to reduce mafia kp | ||
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On September 29 2013 14:22 Umasi wrote: Because if mocsta is town, what he did is basically inexcusable, and needs to be punished. If he's mafia, A: we caught mafia and B: the ridiculous behavior is punished. my question for you, general masses, is IS THERE A COMPELLING REASON TO NOT VOTE FOR MOCSTA? 'there are some reasons he is townie, and he isn't 100% scum...' is an incorrect answer, btw. wat are one goal is to lynch scum not punish stupidity. | ||
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On top of that he has been overall very aggressive which typically is more likely to come from town. Also this would be a clever post for a scum to make. On September 29 2013 11:45 geript wrote: So why are we playing? Nobody knows the deadline and nobody can keep a deadline. JAT is also just another townie misguided but townie none the less On September 29 2013 12:21 justanothertownie wrote: I don't like this post. No, not at all. While he is wrong here as we just want to give the best chance for mafia to waste kp and since their are no super obvious glowing townies that are likely to be shot coag makes the most since for medic protection and is the only logical choice. His quick aggression against me is more likely to come from an over aggressive townie. Townies sometimes just act without a filter and this didnt look like a scum calculated aggression to me. It looked spontaneous and natural to me. | ||
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On October 01 2013 06:35 VisceraEyes wrote: There are a couple of things I don't like. For starters, he was appealing really hard at marv leading up to the LM lynch, telling him to come back and to post and blah blah. But if he really had this super town read on marv, it occurs to me that he would have wanted to lynch marv's preference, Cephiro for that lynch. Especially considering iamp had "suspicions" of his own: Look at the size of this post! It's huge! But it says very little all things considered - little blurbs about every player. Of note, he's got several scumreads in here, but during the lynch period when it's uncertain and people are looking at other candidates for lynch, iamp is nowhere to be seen. I mean he's there, but where are all his scumreads from the post above? Why is he not trying to lead a lynch onto someone else? But in spite of this, he DOES have time to defend Cephiro: ...and throw shit at the Dr claim: lol i make those list posts in all my games i do it as both town and scum town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972¤tpage=41#818 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972¤tpage=86#1715 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=91#1809 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360¤tpage=27#523 scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412951¤tpage=71#1419 as for your point about me not pushing on to another lynch candidate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=191#3812 And then for your point about me defending i was just assessing the situation ceph made nice looking posts to defend himself and showed interest in the lynch lone did not. as for looking for marvs help. He is the only person's opinion that i actually value. Plus why would i want him to come back anyways just so he can yell at me to vote ceph so i can then vote my supposed scum buddy makes no sense. As for the dr claim i have already explained it i made a call i was wrong. I thought it was a fake claim at the time. I was wrong that doesn't make me scum. so in conclusion ve i await your response oh wait your dead good job. Also your lucky i am town ve or i would be ultra pissed at this bs | ||
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On October 01 2013 09:58 Coagulation wrote: wait did you mean "also your luck i am not town ve or i would be ultra pissed at this bs" ? because if i was scum i would be ultra pissed about a townie making a case mid cycle and then confirming himself as town. | ||
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On October 01 2013 09:58 Coagulation wrote: iamperfection just scum slipped lol. your retarded | ||
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On October 01 2013 05:59 Stutters695 wrote: Lynch Moc over VE plz. Fun facts: Moc fake claimed to lynch a claimed doctor over scum., ensuring at least one night of extra KP while wasting a lynch. I have been a constant scum read of Moc's yet he wants to lynch VE because he's a better player/hasn't done shit? I don't buy it. i hope this isnt the awesome post you were hoping to provide you summed up facts and told us what half the thread already has. | ||
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On October 01 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't like FT lynch. I don't like Mocsta lynch either. What i do like is: ##Unvote: ##Vote: iamperfection He is not looking like his townie self, at all, in this game. Despite being replaced he has caught up as can be seen from his first reads post. After that post he has been really absent, asking people's read on him and shit. Then there is his horrible analysis fron D2 votes. That's completely wrong and iamp is not that wrong as town. He is scum. this is horrible are you scum rayn? Your main point is that i'm wrong so i must be scum that is the most supect reasoning for thinking someone is scum ever. and you admit in this post that i clearly took the time to read the entire thread (something i would be less likely to do if i replaced as scum). you also say i was really absent but then asked people to give reads on me well which one is it. Plus what scum likes people talking about them anyways that isnt a scum motivated action in the slightest. I see through mocs thoughts how he could actually think that i am scum and his general effort in the case makes me believe even more he is town. But you show no sound reasoning whatsoever and this looks like complete bs to try a push a mislynch on me. | ||
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Rayn are you still here dear? | ||
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i have another question for you why did you vote ve at the start of the cylce when it looks like from my understanding On September 28 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too. Mark my words on D4. when it looks like me and cc were your top reads unless im mistaken you tell me rayn if your scum i wont hold it against you. | ||
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On October 02 2013 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: And fuck you with this. You are defending yourself based on "because you are maybe getting lynched when mafia KP is on the line". That's fucking fishy iamp. If people can't see what's wrong with this i am really sad. Like, as there is mafia KP on the line does that make you town? Weak man... really weak. um yeah because this is a very important list and your are using horrible reasoning to vote me that is super scummy. | ||
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On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote: iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision? Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato? Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing. because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history | ||
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On October 02 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i can't vote for all the people i think are scum. I have only one vote. wtf is this question? In case you have been reading i have had VE as my scumread for a long time. Then he decided to ragequit. yeah but it makes no sense when you really think me and cc are scum. and mark your words implies you should have been excited to get your thoughts out there. but no you voted ve makes no sense. | ||
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On October 02 2013 02:28 kitaman27 wrote: But you determined fake claim before you opened his filter according to the time stamps. Also, it seems like you already made up your mind before the doctor claim. You were threatening to vote him after he showed up to vote ceph. What about ceph's posts made you think he could be town when you said "at least ceph is around and posting". If anything, those posts would have made me think that he is more likely mafia. because caring about the lynch is one of the ways i find scum. I have found in the past scum show less intrest and are more apathetic to the lynch cephiro showed up lone hadn't to the last second | ||
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I cant point out specific posts i l liked i just like that he showed up when lone couldn't be bothered. It looked like to me one cared more than the other. | ||
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On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote: You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too! i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town. unfortunate but it is what it is. | ||
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Kita stop being silly and read what i have said about rayn ill be back in a few hours. | ||
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I got to get my game squared away and then i will be back i want everyone to state whether they will be available at the deadline or not. | ||
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Day 1 April 10 2013 is when it all started http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168¤tpage=78#1551 Iamperfection's spoke the truth and still the powers at be would still not give him what was rightfully is. The Title of best mafia player in the world except to all the doubters and naysayers was supposed to be Iamperfection's and still he was shunned. Yet still Foolishness was considered the face of TL mafia. Iamperfection's anger and furor only grew larger and larger. If he wasn't going to be considered the best in the world he had to do something the change the system. So it dawned on him that if he could make a puppet be the champion by crowning a new one in his own game under his own terms it would be just like him being champion. He choose the scum team and looked at the player list. This town would have no chance in hell and he would have his hand picked champion. Flavor is flavor. True random setup the scum team was not hand picked.Deadlines will be at 20:00 EDT You have 48 hours with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch | ||
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1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute. 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact. 4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:18 Mocsta wrote: I will say iamp, i have been mulling over you heaps on my bus ride to work. Because like mattchew, you were adamant that I was town, even though pushing you. I just don't get why scum would say that. Its not an ego tell; more so, it pertains to town transparency. My preference for lynch is still FirmTofu, but I doubt I can get traction. So Where do you stand with Stutters695? (Apologies if you have commented, I actually can't remember) i think stutters is a horrendous player but i said before i think he might actually be town. | ||
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On October 02 2013 03:15 iamperfection wrote: i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town. unfortunate but it is what it is. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=277#5525 he thinks in this crucial lynch im the best chance but look around that time how he argues with me its not like kitas town questioning trying to discern alignments its your so bad iamp and your so stupid. he isnt trying to figure out alignments he already knows it. He is just calling me bad not scum which is unacceptable for this lynch and shows a scum mindset because he actually doesn't care about figuring out my alignment. | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:28 Mocsta wrote: See I dont like this iamp. You are justifying a read on Stutters, by applying the tells of a flipped town to Mr.X (Stutters) I think thats relatively deceitful/fallacious in general. And why is making promises and not following through likely to come from town? Was not Cephiro lynched for that exact reason? Scum and town equally care about image. You need town cred as either alignment to push a lynch. This is *VERY* poor reasoning. You are back on my shit list heavily. whats scummy about it | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:32 Mocsta wrote: Whats scummy about it; is that you are cockblocking a lynch on Stutters for extremely trivial reasons. Exacerbated by the fact that a mislynch leaves KP at 3. so im preventing a lynch on stutters to secure my own lynch lol | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:39 Mocsta wrote: Your train only picked up steam when I went to bed last night. Your defense of Stutters I believe came at a time, when your neck was not on the block. So the comment is invalid and misleading. nope http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=277#5537 came after kita someone extremely likely to be town had voted for me. | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote: If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town. 1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute. 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact. 4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum did anyone read this like wtf | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:23 justanothertownie wrote: Is this your whole defense? 1. I think this is a weak point. 2. This is a weak point too. Why would scum not push their cases to some extent? 3. It doesn't work like that. You talking about him won't summon marv into the thread. Maybe you just wanted to test if he was there. 4. Similar point. Asking him of your opinion won't make marv lean scum on you. You are very interested in the opinion of others about your alignment as shown in another post where you ask everyone to comment on you. your not thinking marv was killed there is 0 motivation for me to want him to call me scum it serves no purpose to me what so ever it only hurts me to have marv call me scum. | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:55 justanothertownie wrote: And you think if you don't ask he won't say it? Come on... he didnt even leave a last will it still makes no sense for me to drive it out of him. | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:58 justanothertownie wrote: How could you have known that? He posted end of night reads before. If this is your only point you will die. i have made a ton of points your just ignoring them for some retarded reason. | ||
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On October 01 2013 12:26 Mocsta wrote: Stream of consciousness: IAmPerfection http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=iamperfection&view=all + Show Spoiler +
Iamperfection *is* scum. (1) iamperfection doesnt scum hunt or follow through with his reads He creates a bunch of scum reads in a list post; but never pursues them to further divine/strengthen their alignment. When he pressures random people in the thread, many of his posts are rhetorical and again, serve no purpose to divine the targets alignment. Again, in his list posts, he has individuals like risen/deconduo as null->leaning soft town. Yet, as soon as those individuals do something suspicious; he is all over them like white on rice. As above: rhetorical questions, or calling out "stupid actions" but not explaining the scum motivation behind it. There is no scum hunting in his filter. Just calling out bad play. (2) The LoneMeow Lynch (a) Kept on trying to suggest that Cephiro would be modkilled for inactivity which is clearly false; and whilst doing this, avoids responding to marv case (whilst being present at/near the time it was unleashed) (b) Gives some sort of reasoning for calling LoneMeow bad town in his list post; zero reason for suggesting Cephiro is town. (In fact suggests Cephiro is leaning scum) (c) Its odd how much he jumps all over Deconduo was voting Cephiro (giving the leaning scum read). If he thinks it is suspicious to vote Cephiro for bad reasoning, then he must think Cephiro is town. [Because if he thougth Cephiro was scum, and Deconduo was bussing; his vote would already be on Cephiro!] Fine... so if he thinks Cephiro is town... why isnt he putting more effort into pondering LoneMeow? Which leads into the LM claim (d) Instantly assumes it is fake; which suggests he did NOT have a town read on LoneMeow. Again, why no vote his way until the claim? Further, his story keeps changing tune as he explains it to yamato, post-lynch. He says he read the filter first, then thought LoneMeow was lying. Clearly, iamp called him a liar first, then 2min later supported it with filter context (i.e. didnt directly indicate he thought yamato was town) As mentioned before, if iamp was aware of lonemeow filter prior, to be suspicious of lonemeow... why wasnt he trying to lead a lynch that way? His actions are not lining up. (e) THen you have the outcome, where he calls Sentinel scum for believing the claim -- which is funny, because I believed the claim originally as well and was not considered scum. More inconsistencies. (3) His town read on Mr.CC (a) When he broke down my Mr.CC case, I should have read my case to refresh my memory, because on re-read. iamp didnt actually break down the case at all. I said (1)"You refused to vote cephiro last cycle, and even challenged others who wanted to vote cephiro" (2) mr.cc reaction to lonemeow doctor claim, does not align with how he handles the mocsta doctor fake-claim (3) day 3 votes due to sheeping. The only thing iamp addressed was "even challenged otehrs who wanted to vote cephiro" This looks very bad for Mr.CC; because this "defense" was one of iamperfections more substantiated posts, suggesting a lot of effort was put in. This also ties in with Mr.CC cop claim today. (4) Thread sentiment scum reads After giving Stutters a town read, in both his list posts. Now he is conforming with thread sentiment and willing to lynch Stutters (without any justification). Has also flipflopped his VE several times which conveniently tie in with thread sentiment. Again, no justification. Zaragon JustAnotherTownie Stutters695 Mr.Cheesecake your i dont push my reads is me just not having great feel for this game replacing in is hard. day 1 is extremely important and you cant get a real feel without being there. At least that's how i feel. the ones i have felt extremly confident ie my town reads i have pushed. your other points are stupid and rely on un flipped players. They also take stuff out of context and rely on the results to prove points rather than looking at my actions as they happpened ie suggesting cephiro might not come back. and ignores the fact that as scum i bus like a mother fucker | ||
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On October 02 2013 10:15 kitaman27 wrote: I actually think deconduo IS suspicious. However, iamp is the player most likely to flip mafia. Similar to stutters, its a toss up with him. deconduo could be mafia, deconduo could be town. By iamp almost certainly is mafia. i dont understand how your so certain. like i get im not in the leading roll with the town on my back but that dosnt mean im scum did you read my points here On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote: If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town. 1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute. 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact. 4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum | ||
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On October 02 2013 10:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: hi iamp <3<3<3<3<3 you now chime in, seems legit. now die scum! i have been here the last two hours you idiot | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel- reasons stated before and hasn't done shit this cycle confident mocosta- could be wrong least sure about. His reasoning for voting me is bad and Rayn i caught him he had a severe logic fail and you all ignored it i could not push his lynch becasue it was unrealistic risen- I have a hard time reading him but still nothing he says makes sense and unlike in got he didn't thrust himself in the spot light early on some what confident i dont know who the last one is. | ||
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On October 02 2013 10:54 Mocsta wrote: Well, what I have wanted to know all cycle since pandain gave yout he town read. Is whether you thought he gave you the town read for the RIGHT reasons. Im kinda surprised this was neglected by you. When im in the fire, and someone gives me a town read against all odds; I inspect the reasoning pretty close. no hes obviosuly town he would have no reason to defend me from my pov. i know im town and a mislynch here is all but gg no re | ||
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On October 02 2013 10:58 Mocsta wrote: Can you please explain the sentinel read in a bit more detail. its in my filter | ||
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Sweet Jesus, what have I done? Become a noob over night Become a town on the run And have I fallen so far And is the hour so late That nothing remains but the cry of my hate? The cries in the dark that nobody hears, Here where I stand at the turning of the years? If there's another way to go I missed it 4 cycles ago My play was a war that could never be won They gave me a number and murdered iamperfection When they chained me and left me for dead Just for lynching a claimed dr Yet why did I allow Pandain To touch my soul and teach me love? He treated me like any other He gave me his trust He called me brother My life he claims for God above Can such things be? For I had come to hate this world This world that always hated me Take an eye for an eye! Turn your heart into stone! This is all I have lived for! This is all I have known! One word from him and I'd be back Beneath the lash, upon the rack Instead he offers me my freedom, I feel my shame inside me like a knife He told me that I have a soul, How does he know? What spirit came to move my life? Is there another way to go? I am reaching, but I fall And the night is closing in And I stare into the void To the whirlpool of my sin I'll escape now from that world From the world of tl noir iamperfection is nothing now Another story must begin! | ||
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