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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#3776
screenshots works too
print screen
open paint
control v
save to desktop
upload to imgur via the handy link
post
gg
no
re
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:41 GMT
#3780
On September 26 2013 08:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, if you insist. I see no reason why but I will do that.

I just want to resolve this as fast as possible so we can not have people making my VCA harder than it needs to be.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:42 GMT
#3784
It's his notes, and it's a screenshot, and he can't edit the image. So if it's not allowed, that's fucked. GMARSHAL DIDNT MODKILL CHEZINU FOR POSTING A GOOGLE SPREADSHEET IN NORMAL MINI III so IDK for sure but if it is that'd be hilarious.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:43 GMT
#3787
On September 26 2013 08:43 iamperfection wrote:
so i believe we have just over two hours who's here now and up until the deadline?

I am not here.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:50 GMT
#3801
LOL good, Koshi's gone now we can spite lynch him.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:52 GMT
#3805
On September 26 2013 08:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:50 ObviousOne wrote:
LOL good, Koshi's gone now we can spite lynch him.

but is he?

The world may never know for sure.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 03:49 GMT
#4070
On September 25 2013 17:57 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:
Tofu.

I got what u said the first time.

I'm saying. I think the only way town would fail to address the case is if they gave up. If that was the case, we would have a completely different post from Matt or any town for that matter.

Scum do things for many reasons. Sometimes we can't understand it until post game .

All I'm saying is. If Matt chew could break down the case without resorting to discrediting. He would...

But thanks for responding anyways. U do understand where u r coming from. I am just of a different opinion on how to interpret

To be clear, I don't really mind the Mattchew lynch because he's pretty useless. I just don't think he's going to flip scum based on what he's been saying. We also really, really need to lynch scum today because it reduces scum KP by 1. I think there are quite a few people that are scummier than Mattchew that would be better lynches with a higher chance of flipping scum.

If FT is mafia, so is cephiro, or this is just an honest mistake. I can't tell which.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 04:19 GMT
#4078
On September 26 2013 12:55 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 12:49 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 25 2013 17:57 FirmTofu wrote:
On September 25 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:
Tofu.

I got what u said the first time.

I'm saying. I think the only way town would fail to address the case is if they gave up. If that was the case, we would have a completely different post from Matt or any town for that matter.

Scum do things for many reasons. Sometimes we can't understand it until post game .

All I'm saying is. If Matt chew could break down the case without resorting to discrediting. He would...

But thanks for responding anyways. U do understand where u r coming from. I am just of a different opinion on how to interpret

To be clear, I don't really mind the Mattchew lynch because he's pretty useless. I just don't think he's going to flip scum based on what he's been saying. We also really, really need to lynch scum today because it reduces scum KP by 1. I think there are quite a few people that are scummier than Mattchew that would be better lynches with a higher chance of flipping scum.

If FT is mafia, so is cephiro, or this is just an honest mistake. I can't tell which.


Explain this

Actually I think I'm just retarded right now.
But the idea is how the fuck is KP going to be 2 with 5 mafia alive if we had lynched mafia?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 04:19 GMT
#4079
So yeah, disregard for ObviouslyOutofhismind
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 04:21 GMT
#4080
Preliminary notes are done. VCA project starting after I make more coffee I think. My brain feels like it has shut down. Coffee.... with sugar, yes.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 05:01 GMT
#4087
Fun fact: geript's name is on two places in the D1 vote count.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 05:09 GMT
#4088
Another fun fact, Koshi's vote is not listed as on CRay despite his switch being after deadline.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 05:25 GMT
#4091
Today's lynch information is going to be so good when you lynch Cephiro tomorrow.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 06:13 GMT
#4094
Okay. This is for for me, filter links to vote filters in vote thread, so ignore at your leisure. Constant copy/paste out of a spreadsheet is for chucklefucks.

+ Show Spoiler +

1. darthpunk -- strongandbig
2. raynpelikoneet
5. yamato77
6. kushm4sta
7. koshi
8. obviousone
10. firmtofu
11. pandain
12. cephiro
13. mr cheesecake
14. xzavier (empty) -- deconduo
15. coagulation
16. stutters695
17. onegu (empty) -- iamperfection
18. zenatsu (empty) -- malongo (empty)
19. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429754&user=[UoN]Sentinel
-- the guy whose name breaks url tags, gj with that lol
20. visceraeyes
22. geript
23. risen
25. marvellosity
26. zaragon
27. mattchew
28. umasi
29. justanothertownie
30. mocsta
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 07:12 GMT
#4097
On September 26 2013 16:09 Mattchew wrote:
Whats sad is that i dont think lm actually didnt play THAT bad a game if he really believed be wouldnt be lynched

You voted LM both days and never voted anyone else ever in the history of day one and two
HRMMMMMMMMM GET VOTE ANALYZED BISH
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 07:30 GMT
#4099
On September 26 2013 16:25 Mocsta wrote:
Stream of consciousness: Stutters695

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=Stutters695&view=all

+ Show Spoiler +
  • First post: Focused on Kush, and others perceptions of Kush. If forced to decide, I will lean town. I think a scum that wants a "weak" player will go on the offensive directly to that player. Stutters decision suggests that he has read the thread, come to the opinion that Kush is scum; and noticed a comment suggesting kush may be town so is querying it. I suppose this is what a suspicious town *should* do; but, its still pretty selfish as an opening post. Why is he avoiding all the other conversation that occured? Overal, leaning town (just)

  • I really dont his campaign post here; but i dont mind his follow up to DP pressure here. Its pretty confident, and the reasoning is a valid interpretation for early day1 information. Ultimately, scum *could* generate that reasoning; but, I think the way stutters went about it is indicative of recent tl town style.

  • A few null posts. As either alignment, he needs to follow up; and justify the case with Kush etc.. I would say he reads genuine in conviction though. Guess with Kush, you can fake it. Yeha, stay as null.

  • Post: This is an interesting reply. As in, as town, I *think* I would respond the same. All I can think is that, as scum, I would try and belittle him for admitting the case is good. So conversely I assume as town I wouldn't do it. As an aside, in my experience, when someone admits the case looks good - its been from town -> kush is town

  • Post Keeps pushing for Kush. I mena its a good thing he keeps campaigning. But he dosent offer a thought on anything else int he thread. Even when talking about vigs, its to divert back to Kush. I think thats pretty scummy, even if the cause is good in intention.

  • Post hmm. I'm not sure how much i like the pressure on kush (his only scum read). I mean, hes campaigning for him.. but when pressuring it feels jovial and distanced. I guess you can argue that you dont have to convince your scumread they are scum, but still. I just get an odd feeling that its not serious.
    Considering stutters695 writes short paragrpahs in general, i dont see how phone posting should be stopping him interacting either. Anyways...

  • Chairman I just dont get this. Has been "reading filters" for a timestamp difference of two hours, and his first contribution to the thread is to call out a another weak player. I mean, its not that town cant target two weak players; its that he promised to filter read, and is instead commenting on live person (that is flipped town) and hasn't had any bearing on the thread (yet).. Theres nothing on DP/Geript or VE or FT etc.. i dont like this.
    Chairman also made a post stating it was odd stutters called him out like this - specifically the focus of the question. Its wrong My thoughts on reading was "how does chair plan to TRAP scum"... stutters post is "how does chair plan to MAKE LIFE HARD hard for scum". It might sound like a small thing, but it indicates stutters is not looking to identify scum.

    considering he has failed to comment on live matters, and this is his second weak player target Im going to give him a scum read so far. I just cant understand the motivation for this query to chairman as town.

  • Post Says he has caught up; but only comments on chairman. I dont like his wording of "failed to demonstrate why it must come from a scum mindset".. but i wont hold it against him. I just dont like it, cos its a long sentence for a guy that types very little. Feels overcompensated. Will leave as null cos prob nitpicking.

  • Kush case The entire case is based on not caring about the lynch. Its funny, he debunks kush scum read on stutters (decided to target him pre-game) by stating, he has zero justification.. kinda a weird way to respond, but whatever..
    as town: I used to make cases on Kush, but my case style is much different to stutters,so im finding it hard to detect if this is a scum or town case. I think overall, the case is pretty shit and lack lustre. Especially to justify Kush being his sole focus of Day1. I mean, stutters hasnt even commented on anything else other than a semantic from Chairman.. and this is his case? I dont think time is a valid excuse here, but I want to lynch for scum motivation, not poor play. Will treat this as null.

  • reads Finally, some reads. Lone is another lurker... this guy is got a habit of choosing ppl who dont fight back. What i dont like here is, he commetns on bad play from lone, but doesnt go so far to call him scum... so why make a post around reads if you not going toa conclusion? Then calls chairman scum without any justification? wat the?
    Unfortunately, i can see town doing this post, so null.... ggrrr

  • association FINALLY, Stutters converses on something live in the thread other than kush/lurkers... guess who.. its koshi having a dig at FT.... this is very interesting. If stutters is scum (which is my lean) then FT could be an easy association.

  • marv pressure ncie question from marv, weird at the time. But now that im suspicious, its useful.
    So stutters likes to bus i suppose? Admits his cases are terrible? Knows thread sentiment -> he wont get lynched for stupid shit

    Doesnt help me. Accept, if kush is scum.. i need to check how much of a shit kush gave to be pressured by stutters. Did he just brush it off or fight back?

  • post Interesting question from marv again. based on the whole martyr thing, shouldnt stutters opinino have changed of at least one of lone/chair... stutters response is acceptable if he is known for tunneling. I suspect he is not (he didtn even mention tunneling in his self-description prior); so i think this is bad points for stutters.

  • post Like i dont get this... he set himself up to vote LM, so thats OK. But the thing with kush, i mean; he wrote a case and was campaigning it.. like, i just would expect him to adapt the case if it wasnt getting traction? Its like he moved onto the next best easy wagon choice.. Im really not a fan of this action.
    I completely admit town can drop their cases if there is no traction, but he doesnt even state kush is still his top read. The only reason he dropped the vote is because town didnt think it was a good idea.. Yeah, dont like.

  • Martyrs by asking for a vig. Kinda weird, cos it acknowledges he is fully aware of his thread position. I actually dunno if town would say this, but feel like if i judge it, im judging poor play vs scummy play. Null

  • post aa hhhhahhh... this ties in excatly with what iw as saying before. He left kush alone because the thread didnt want a piece of it; admits it. Hes just looking at options. SCUM RIGHT HERE ! (thnx marv)

  • post STILL avoiding key issues int he thread, and regurgitating the same crap about kush and lonemeow. The reads barely updated as well; and doesnt pressure the reads. He basically throwing out shit on ppls names, and hopes other ppl get the traction on them.. I prob have a read a town game on him; but this is a pretty scummy way to play in general.

  • Last post sucks too. I wonder now whether Stutters will re-target to Kush?


I got a new scum read. Im a little jaded cos some of it feels like bias against extremely poor play; but theres a few things I just cant fathom originating from a town mindset.

(1) He never comments on live thread matters -> accept a timely delurk to defend FirmTofu.

In fact, the only people he talks about are (Kush, LoneMeow, Chairman) + 1 reference to FT. The 3 in front, are all easy target lurkers; 2 have flipped town.

(2) He never pressures his reads (unless you include that Kush case, which he dropped as soon as it didnt get traction) and when you read his justifications, he doesnt actually explain why its scummy behaviour.. its just poor play

(3) The vig request martyr is really odd as well. Martyrs seems to be the 'in" thing on TL these days, and its not alignment indicative (as in. auto-town).

(4) Can you say this guy is honestly scum hunting? This is beyond poor play, the guy clearly has read the game, and picks/chooses his times to comment. This suggests that there is certainly a motive/agenda behind the posts; yet he doesn't scum hunt.

SCUM RIGHT HERE.

My pre-VCA thoughts agree. I just wrote
Stutters - lynch this as well.

Only ever voted for LoneMeow. I'll get to his filter eventually in my notepad.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 07:40 GMT
#4101
Koshi / Geript history together? Anyone got the 411?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 07:42 GMT
#4102
On September 26 2013 16:38 Mocsta wrote:
is the stream of consciousness approach working? or too painful to read?

im making really bad calls this game, which is why im trying to be as transparent as possible.

Essentially I recognise I have been cockblocking ppl too prematurely in some cases. Interesting enough, marv has a presence in both these filters (zaragon/stutters) but in a really good way. DW marv, I will get to your filter eventually; dunno, if the word limit will run out though

Wont be around for the next 6 hrs I guess, but next cab off the rank is Mr.CC. His filter is small, so I might be able to squeeze it out before I head out. Will see.

More from you is helping me gauge my read on you, actually. If our thoughts continue to match up I can feel more confident in my leaning-town on you, so do your thing. I am not giving myself much credit in my read of you as it was for D2.

Mocsta - im waffles to his maple syrup. I don't know what Moc-logic is. I don't think I want to know. Nullllllllll
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 08:00 GMT
#4103
On September 26 2013 16:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 16:09 Mattchew wrote:
Whats sad is that i dont think lm actually didnt play THAT bad a game if he really believed be wouldnt be lynched

You voted LM both days and never voted anyone else ever in the history of day one and two
HRMMMMMMMMM GET VOTE ANALYZED BISH

Oops
Day1 was yamato (was looking at stutters in my sheet).
Not much better.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 08:04 GMT
#4105
On September 26 2013 17:02 marvellosity wrote:
Idiots

No downfall parody video?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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