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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#1661
Marv you down for a DP lynch or a complete lurker crapshoot?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#1662
On September 23 2013 08:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why is DP obvscum, G-ript?
And since DP refused to do it, do you mind looking at my analysis of FT's first post and telling me what you think?

I've already explained that. I don't understand how anyone reads him as trying to move the game forward and there's lots of shit that he's been doing nothing with. All of the "town reads" on him make 0 sense to me whatsoever. Really though it's not a big issue because he's dead come D2 period.

As for FT post, I didn't hate it. But I think FT is an awful player because he doesn't reassess any situation in the dynamics of how the game is playing out. For example when he refused to admit that fakeclaiming Det. was bad because it flat out allowed Onegu or Koshi or whoever to not be suspected as scum Vig. You need to reassess situations as it's moving forward and information comes out. The other problem with FT is that I think he's so awful that he can never ever de-tunnel under any situation.

As for the caring thing. I'm a player who cares about winning and taking responsibility and shit; but I don't want to be a player to who cares / gives a fuck about the game. I want this to be fun and relaxing and most of the time it's neither. I think you're the same way.

You think FT is awful but you think DP is scum, so is he right?
And what about what Marv just said?

(and in regards to the 'gives-a-fuck'-ness, again, depends on the game. If you're basing it on Bluelightz then yeah, that game was shit, we both cared, didn't want to and it didn't matter. I would say for the most part though I do care about the outcome of a game and do try---I'm not sure where you get the fact that I don't. This isn't exactly topic/game-relevant in my opinion though so mabes we talk in postgame.)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 23 2013 00:03 GMT
#1663
how long until lynch?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 23 2013 00:05 GMT
#1664

1am EDT
Lots longer than I thought. I guess the late start pushed back the deadline for today. We'll see how he changes this, if at all, by day 2.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 00:06 GMT
#1665
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 23 2013 00:10 GMT
#1666
On September 23 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.

Marv is working slowly because he doesn't want to be the primary pusher of a lynch today, it seems. Maybe so it becomes more difficult for people like you to simply sit back and sheep?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 00:11 GMT
#1667
On September 23 2013 09:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.

Marv is working slowly because he doesn't want to be the primary pusher of a lynch today, it seems. Maybe so it becomes more difficult for people like you to simply sit back and sheep?

marv is so evul.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 00:13 GMT
#1668
We're not voting a zero-poster.

And yes, Koshi, I'm working slowly :/ I'm trying to get myself into the mindset of town-Tofu for that post I talked about. What geript said about FT being kinda crazy (I wouldn't really say bad) with how he views/approaches things sometimes is weighing on me a bit.

I'm nowhere near done reading, but I still think LM is a decent lynch; I know people are reading his martyring as a towntell, but usually when townies martyr they stick around to vent their martyryness (aw yea) on people, whereas LM just peaced out. Say you're a newbie townie who feels out of his depth a little in a large game full of regulars and loud posters - fine, maybe it's a little scary, but is it really as desperate as LM is coming across? Is the situation that bad? ugh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 23 2013 00:14 GMT
#1669
On September 23 2013 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:50 geript wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why is DP obvscum, G-ript?
And since DP refused to do it, do you mind looking at my analysis of FT's first post and telling me what you think?

I've already explained that. I don't understand how anyone reads him as trying to move the game forward and there's lots of shit that he's been doing nothing with. All of the "town reads" on him make 0 sense to me whatsoever. Really though it's not a big issue because he's dead come D2 period.

As for FT post, I didn't hate it. But I think FT is an awful player because he doesn't reassess any situation in the dynamics of how the game is playing out. For example when he refused to admit that fakeclaiming Det. was bad because it flat out allowed Onegu or Koshi or whoever to not be suspected as scum Vig. You need to reassess situations as it's moving forward and information comes out. The other problem with FT is that I think he's so awful that he can never ever de-tunnel under any situation.

As for the caring thing. I'm a player who cares about winning and taking responsibility and shit; but I don't want to be a player to who cares / gives a fuck about the game. I want this to be fun and relaxing and most of the time it's neither. I think you're the same way.

You think FT is awful but you think DP is scum, so is he right?
And what about what Marv just said?

(and in regards to the 'gives-a-fuck'-ness, again, depends on the game. If you're basing it on Bluelightz then yeah, that game was shit, we both cared, didn't want to and it didn't matter. I would say for the most part though I do care about the outcome of a game and do try---I'm not sure where you get the fact that I don't. This isn't exactly topic/game-relevant in my opinion though so mabes we talk in postgame.)

No I don't think his post was right per se. He was all wrong about my previous meta. I don't think he's even right about DP's general meta. But I also don't think that FT has enough to balance his ego and actually think about what he's saying (pot... kettle... blah blah). That said, I don't think FT really took an actual stance on DP in the early post or even any reasonable logical stance on DP after that. But I think FT is an awful player who has no real desire to get better so take that how you will.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#1670
geript, there's no need to be that harsh. Srsly man.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#1671
On September 23 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
I'm nowhere near done reading, but I still think LM is a decent lynch; I know people are reading his martyring as a towntell, but usually when townies martyr they stick around to vent their martyryness (aw yea) on people, whereas LM just peaced out. Say you're a newbie townie who feels out of his depth a little in a large game full of regulars and loud posters - fine, maybe it's a little scary, but is it really as desperate as LM is coming across? Is the situation that bad? ugh

I'm very much with you on this point. I've been thinking about that some myself.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 23 2013 00:16 GMT
#1672
On September 23 2013 09:15 marvellosity wrote:
geript, there's no need to be that harsh. Srsly man.

Call me biased, but I'm not going to go all soft and nice on someone who called me an inbred retard.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 23 2013 00:17 GMT
#1673
On September 23 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
We're not voting a zero-poster.

And yes, Koshi, I'm working slowly :/ I'm trying to get myself into the mindset of town-Tofu for that post I talked about. What geript said about FT being kinda crazy (I wouldn't really say bad) with how he views/approaches things sometimes is weighing on me a bit.

I'm nowhere near done reading, but I still think LM is a decent lynch; I know people are reading his martyring as a towntell, but usually when townies martyr they stick around to vent their martyryness (aw yea) on people, whereas LM just peaced out. Say you're a newbie townie who feels out of his depth a little in a large game full of regulars and loud posters - fine, maybe it's a little scary, but is it really as desperate as LM is coming across? Is the situation that bad? ugh

I would be more inclined to look with disfavour upon FT's exit from the thread than LM's.
The whole thing with the situation not being that bad....as a newbie if you have people suspecting you and/or voting you at any time it's scary/looks bad.
You're right about him not choosing to stick around and continuing to try to work it out, but again I think FT is much worse in that regard, and I know that FT is beyond newbie at this point.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 00:17 GMT
#1674
oh yeah, that was you he did that to. I attempted to find some meta-tell on him using language like that (he did it to someone else this game. DP?) but I didn't find anything conclusive. Found one scum game where he had a similar tone, but I think in Persona he was reasonably personable on day 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 23 2013 00:18 GMT
#1675
On September 23 2013 09:16 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 09:15 marvellosity wrote:
geript, there's no need to be that harsh. Srsly man.

Call me biased, but I'm not going to go all soft and nice on someone who called me an inbred retard.

LOL
Yeah honestly.....I'm not even sure why he did that....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 00:20 GMT
#1676
Going to vote FT. Thread sentiment and all.
Don't want to lynch the kitten. He said that he read all the filters many times but got demotivated. Meh, can't believe he is going to flip scum. Scum QT would have guided him, doesn't feel like he is being guided. While he would be the person that searches for help there.

So FT seems like a good bet. Didn't do shit.


PS: Please don't lynch me. I promise I am town. pinky swear.
I had a good night of sleep.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 23 2013 00:21 GMT
#1677
On September 23 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.


Why 1/5 specifically?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#1678
On September 23 2013 09:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.


Why 1/5 specifically?

30 peepz, 6 scum, 1/5 scum, 5 lurkers, 1 scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 23 2013 00:23 GMT
#1679
On September 23 2013 09:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 09:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.


Why 1/5 specifically?

30 peepz, 6 scum, 1/5 scum, 5 lurkers, 1 scum.

I think I should clarify - why would there only be one scum among the 5 lurkers? Assuming you don't have townreads on everybody, there could still be multiple scum in the lurker section, or none at all.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#1680
Can you talk to me more about Firm, Wave? Nothing in particular I have in mind, just your own plus and minus points you have against him, how you weigh them, stuff like that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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