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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:25 GMT
#5079
On September 28 2013 01:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Risen, I'm not cop wtf? The fact that I said you are mafia was based on your shitty post about me being mafia.

Your reaction is hilarious btw. Assuming I have a red check on you... Afraid of something?


On September 28 2013 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Risen assumes he couldn't have been framed as well. Lol.


This line of posting makes no sense to me now. How have you completely discounted the potential for a framer after calling me on it earlier?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:27 GMT
#5082
This isn't logical, it seems scum motivated to me, but I can't for the life of me figure out why you would fakeclaim the check like this as town while simultaneously pushing VE.

##unvote
##vote: Mr. Cheesecake


I know I was the cop who claimed red check and got myself lynched somehow over the person I claimed red check and said anyone who ever voted for a cop with a claimed red check was an idiot (I think I did anyways), but this is way different from when I did it, I think.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:28 GMT
#5083
On September 30 2013 14:26 Pandain wrote:
God where are other players.

This is too much, I think he's just drunk guys

Why are you defending him? I get drunk and post all the time
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:30 GMT
#5085
On September 30 2013 14:29 Coagulation wrote:
Im inclined to think I got framed honestly. The VE lynch should stay.

How are you ignoring the fact that he targeted you.... what framer would target you? It doesn't add up at ALL. Your defense to his red check is to say "I'm a vigi, and pretty much confirmed town because of my KP use" and then you turn around and say you were probably framed? Wtf?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:31 GMT
#5087
EBWOP: Two unbelievable things have to happen for Mr. CC to be a cop

1) He checked you with a cop check N3
2) A framer targeted the vigi claim N3
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:34 GMT
#5094
On September 30 2013 14:32 Coagulation wrote:
well what the fuck risen. Why would he fucking claim he was cop and red checked me when im confirmed town already.
thats way more retarded than any other scenario.

Because he forgot about you being nearly confirmed town? He fucked up? He made a mistake in the heat of the moment when he thought he could get you lynched? That's a lot more likely to me than considering for 24 hours and choosing to check you. Who were his previous nights checks?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:36 GMT
#5101
Or he was fake claiming for no reason whatsoever. There is not a single town player on the planet who fake claims like that there. Lynch Mr. CC, then lynch Mocsta, then lynch Pandain for having wayy too much knowledge about what was going on with Mr. CC
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:40 GMT
#5108
I had a post written up about how Mr. CC was going to come out saying it was a fake claim and he was using it to test the thread. Inside that post I came to the conclusion that only a scum Mr. CC would do this. With the support from Pandain it now looks like I was correct.

Risen's list of people who should be lynched

Mocsta/Mr. CC (for fakeclaiming in ways only scum would fakeclaim)
Pandain (for defending Mr. CC with information he shouldn't have had access to)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:42 GMT
#5112
Here's how it looks to me...

D1
Bad lynch, but what can ya do it's d1 shit is cray
D2
Mocsta fake claims saving Cephiro
D3
Cephiro has to go, no one can find anything townie about him
D4
Mocsta is in trouble here, his fake claim saved scum and he fake claimed doctor to lynch a claimed doctor. How can we dig ourselves out of this? I know, have Mr. CC fake claim! Then Mr. CC will come out and declare that it was indeed all a silly ruse, since who would fake claim a cop check on coag. See? Townies can fake claim, Mocsta isn't the lynch. Lynch VE.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:50 GMT
#5115
On September 30 2013 14:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pandain you're town, right? You have to be town.

Why? Because he's defending you? If you're town shouldn't you be questioning why he immediately defended you? He's the reason I find it almost impossible to trust that you could be town making a horribly bad judgement call.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 05:52 GMT
#5116
And he attacks me through this. He finds MY play scummy when there are people like Mocsta the "doctor" and Mr. CC the "cop" running around in thread. What is wrong with this fucking game? I'd snap call Panda scum if Geript hadn't proven to me just how bad people can be at this game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:15 GMT
#5270
VE just rage quit the game, which means he's town. Should probably look at the people pushing him hardest and I would lynch the people VE wants to over someone like Geript.

Town OO would agree. Logic dictates OO is scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:16 GMT
#5273
EBWOP: And I don't understand why people aren't more like me. Sure I rage, but I don't do anything bannable. Why shoot yourself in the foot over other people being incompetent? You've yelled at them and they're still idiots. You can't change that, they're obviously too stupid to change, just take a breather and move on.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:17 GMT
#5274
On October 01 2013 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
VE BEING TOWN DOESN'T MAKE VE RIGHT!

JUST SAYIN

I understand that. I'm pointing out the error in OO's logic.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:18 GMT
#5276
EBWOP: I am serious about looking hard at the people who were pushing VE over Mocsta.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:20 GMT
#5277
I'm out for the time being. I'm moving my vote back to Mocsta. It pains me to say this but I think I was wrong about Mr. CC. I got worked up and that was probably stupid. The joke was stupid, though. It doesn't clear Mr. CC at all, just means he shouldn't be the lynch over Mocsta.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:25 GMT
#5279
On October 01 2013 06:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
There are a couple of things I don't like. For starters, he was appealing really hard at marv leading up to the LM lynch, telling him to come back and to post and blah blah. But if he really had this super town read on marv, it occurs to me that he would have wanted to lynch marv's preference, Cephiro for that lynch. Especially considering iamp had "suspicions" of his own:

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
1: DarthPunk/sb-
town because dp being a little bitch about people calling him scum and then replacing out because of it means he is extremely likely to be town. Plus he was pretty active and in the spotlight day one anyways.

2: raynpelikoneet-
town his most recent push on firm while misguides seemed legit at least and looked like he was at least trying to figure out alignments and overall good activity and seems to have been one of the major players. He is good as scum but i think he has been legit and real in his posts.

5: yamato77-
town he just is plus he got protected and he wouldnt lie about that. Also was active before that

6: kushm4sta-
dont know. Rember the days when he used to be meiocore at this game. Now it seems like he spends his time just bithcing and moaning.

8: ObviousOne-
annoying but seems to have a matter fact way of not wanting to explain himself. bad but likely town.

10: FirmTofu-
Town This kid is town he has explained himself over and over agains hasnt really been afraid of the spotlight. Also has used his time to contribute in the right way with pushing see umasi instead of just defending himself this is what you do as town when you have pressure on you. you give your reads and your thoughts regardless of the pressure you dont complain. He is town

11: Pandain-
his sent push seems legit and seems to have some of the same reasoning i have. If he is thinking like means he is probally town. needs more actvity.

12: Cephiro-
seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him.

13: Mr. Cheesecake-
im excused from reading him because i hate him. he will probally at some point afk from this game and be active somewhere else on tl.

14: decondu-
confused about why yamato was town would likely know his scum team shot yamato so slight indication he might be town i dont feel strong about need to see more from him.

15: Coagulation-
town no reason to not belive he is the vig with his and yamtos claims

16: Stutters695-
martyer hate that shit but who knows probally bad town though

17: iamperfection-
IC

18: Zenatsu/molango-
a double lurker. A sure sign of the apoclypse.

19: [UoN]Sentinel-
scum this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=85#1699 say absoloutly nothing on a major topic while sudetly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. He has given some decent reasoning for some his thoughts later on so he isnt my strongest scum read but that day 1 still reads as scum.

20: VisceraEyes-
I dont really understand his existential crisis that he all of sudden for no real good reason but i dont see the scum motivation. Like he didnt use it as an excuse to not talk about the game as he is still talking so i would say town on him. has been generally active and talking about the game. His thinking that it may be possible both coag and yamato could be scum is kind of ridiclous as in to ridiclous to come from scum.

22: geript-
scum his biggest contribution for the entire game was to tunnel dp and make him rage quit. outside of that the rest of his day one was useless and hasnt done anything this cycle scum

23: Risen-
i dont fucking know hasnt really done anything could be scum in fact i would say leaning scum

24: LoneMeow-
dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly.

25: marvellosity-
Town seems active and intrested i will say town and improve my record of reading him almost always correctly. seems to have setled into the role of town leader.

26: Zaragon-
scum played the im a newbie card kind of wierd that he would go after ve as scum but in effect his vote was wasted and did nothing of vlaue. Says stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=87#1721 says sent isnt great case but leaning scum????????? dont know what that means. and wants to say im not sure it seems a lot and never really reaches solid conlusions that much.

27: Mattchew-
scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum

Umasi-scumi will give credit to firmtofu here i think he made solid point here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=151#3011 hes scum for that i would say

29: justanothertownie- was going to stay up to see my post +1 for eagerly awaiting iamperfection posts. outside of that he hasnt done a ton and hasnt had strong reads but seems to be self aware of that fact in a matter of fact way. My gut would say town.

30: Mocsta-towni like his case been active extremely likely town i would say efort etc....


Look at the size of this post! It's huge! But it says very little all things considered - little blurbs about every player. Of note, he's got several scumreads in here, but during the lynch period when it's uncertain and people are looking at other candidates for lynch, iamp is nowhere to be seen. I mean he's there, but where are all his scumreads from the post above? Why is he not trying to lead a lynch onto someone else?

But in spite of this, he DOES have time to defend Cephiro:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
ceph bothered to show up lone didn't even bother to look up the deadline.

...and throw shit at the Dr claim:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:54 iamperfection wrote:
hes lying kill him



I feel like this post needs to be revisited in thread, as well. I would be happy with an iamp lynch after Mocsta. I hadn't even considered him, but how does he have town reads on FT here? How does he have scum reads on so many people who have flipped town? I don't think iamp would have reads this bad. I don't blame him entirely since my reads on Geript (a town player who plays anti-town) and VA (a day 1 read) were wrong, but iamp has played enough to also know that list posts like this aren't pro-town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:26 GMT
#5280
On October 01 2013 07:22 ObviousOne wrote:
WHO IS ACCUSING ME OF LOGIC?

STOP THAT THIS INSTANT.

[image loading]

Let's play a game. I'll vote for myself and won't fight my lynch if you agree that tomorrow you go up on the block and vote to lynch yourself. I'm down for a 1 for 1 and you're one of my scum reads, atm. You down?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:27 GMT
#5281
EBWOP: I'm totally down to do it in reverse order, btw. I don't think you would do it as I have a scum read on you, though.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2013 22:51 GMT
#5292
OO shows he hasn't even been reading the thread with that last post. Like... That post is more scummy at this point to me than Mocsta fakeclaim, I didn't think that was possible.

So... uhh...

##unvote
##vote: ObviousOne


Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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