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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 30 2013 18:58 GMT
#5185
Hi guys, miss me?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 30 2013 19:17 GMT
#5186
Well I was hoping that would get people to post, but apparently not. Stand by for an awesome post.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 30 2013 20:59 GMT
#5229
Lynch Moc over VE plz.


Fun facts: Moc fake claimed to lynch a claimed doctor over scum., ensuring at least one night of extra KP while wasting a lynch.

I have been a constant scum read of Moc's yet he wants to lynch VE because he's a better player/hasn't done shit? I don't buy it.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 20:05 GMT
#5664
Alright, well I'm here and will be on and off until the deadline.


First, my apologies to everyone. for my activity. It's a combination of a couple things. Aperture Ep 2 was very overwhelming with the quantity of posting as well as the many sub events to keep track of in the game. So I figured I'd give a vanilla a shot to see if that was more manageable for me. Unfortunately with being sick I never got through the first couple days with any sort of analysis other than just keeping up. It really killed my motivation to play when I wanted to read up on multiple people when every filter I popped open was 10-20 pages. Then I was out of town last weekend which made it even worse. Probably not playing another big game for quite a while.

That said, let's talk about today's lynch. Mocsta>Kush> anyone else. Since its pretty clear you guys don't agree with that, here's what I see with Iamp/FT.

Iamp: His list post is really bad. It comes off to me as him needing to get something out quickly since he replaced someone AFK. I can see that as either alignment so I'd consider it pretty null. What worries me more about it is that despite claiming he "didn't know" about LM'S alignment, as soon as the doc claim happened, Iamp felt he was lying.


What's even worse is he called Ceph scum for always catching up, but it seemed like he wasn't really considering him scum post claim.


His change of stance on Geript came off town. He was a completely reasonable vig shot and if he is scum there is much less incentive for asking not to vig him compared to hoping for a free kill from a vig.

His next post on his scum reads is back to scummy. His lack of pushing them at all is what really bugs me about it.



My phone is screwing up so I'm going to reboot it, then you'll get my thoughts on FT and conclusion on who I want to lynch.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 20:15 GMT
#5673
On October 02 2013 05:08 Pandain wrote:
Stutters what do you think about my posts indicating that Iamp is probably town?

What do you think about decondou?

You are clearly reading thread, why are you acting like you have no idea what's going on. Who do you think is town and scum besides iampt?

We only need two more votes for a decondou lynch.

I'll address all this after I finish typing up FT.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#5675
On October 02 2013 05:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 05:05 Stutters695 wrote:
That said, let's talk about today's lynch. Mocsta>Kush> anyone else. Since its pretty clear you guys don't agree with that, here's what I see with Iamp/FT.


You do realize that kush was replaced 2 days ago right?

Does your scum read carry over to myself?

I did not actually lol. Gut from what I've read today, no. I'll look into it later, not important at the moment.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 21:21 GMT
#5681
FT: His posting on DP feels honest. The only concern I see there is his focus on meta, which is always an easy way for scum to hide a push. His backing off of DP also feels genuine. The issue here to me is that is all he did d1. In that context, it is conceivable he manufactured his change of heart to really avoid taking a bigger stance.


I don't like his list of vig targets considering he just said that creating a list let's scum know who to avoid. I'm null on it though because his list is so vague that it doesn't tell scum anything they wouldn't know.


His case on Za didn't impress me and Marv's point is something I agree with. His next read is on Koshi but what bothers me is when he mentions Koshi, it's that he THOUGHT Koshi was scum, not that he thinks he's scum. He was apathetic about Koshi while saying apathy is a scum tell. I don't buy that.


I'm not going to pick apart his individual cases because the issues would just be rehashed , but I really don't like his dropping a case then not actually trying to get them lynched.

I'm in a rush, so to wrap this up, FT lacks any real conviction except trying to avoid himself.getting lynched.


That said my preference is iamp. there is enough in FTs filter to make me doubt it, where there is only one thing I'm unsure of with iamp.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 21:28 GMT
#5682
On October 02 2013 05:26 Pandain wrote:
I have to go practice for a university club, afterwards I will return.

Hopefully others will see my points, otherwise I'm going to vote either FT or stutters since Stutters just gave an awful re-entrance post.

Will be back later and follow on my phone.

Care to explain or you just flinging shit?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 22:14 GMT
#5685
Once iamp flips scum, I'll be looking heavily at Pandain. He's thrown so much shit out that it feels like he's defending iamp to save KP.

Also going to look into Kita some more, but I'll have more time to really do that tomorrow while my car is at the shop.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#5686
I'm also not sold on Moc being town but I feel like there has to be a scum amongst the active. Moc is my first guess, maybe someone else, who knows
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 02 2013 03:13 GMT
#5974
Jesus, this game is straight up stupid
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#6050
On October 03 2013 00:35 deconduo wrote:
I don't understand all the hate.

- I wasn't going to be lynched whether I was around or not.
- Iamp was getting lynched anyway, regardless of my vote. Even if I had voted for stutters it wouldn't have been enough.
- I only showed up at the deadline to vote so I wouldn't be modkilled and lose the game for us.

Look at it from the town not up for lunch yesterday. They don't know iamp/you/I are town. Wagons are forming on us and you're nowhere to be found.


If you are here it goes one of two ways:


1. You establish some towniness, and people aren't wasting time on you. Iamp or myself probably still get mislynched but all the discussion wasted(if you're town) on you gets directed towards us or a possible other lynch.


2. You're scum and say something stupid, get lynched and we have a shot at winning this game.


By not being here, you made the safest scum play possible, without providing anything of merit to town to offset this. It doesn't matter if you're confirmed scum if the game ends tonight before we have a chance to lynch you.



Second point: if you're here earlier, maybe I get lynched instead of Iamp. I know that puts us in the exact same position, but the other townies don't. To me, this is null, but to them
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 02 2013 18:23 GMT
#6053
I hit send on accident, that post wasn't close to done. I'm addressing that in it.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 02 2013 19:04 GMT
#6055
hit send on accident, continued:

but to them your vote could have helped get the wagon rolling on me before iamp, which would have drastically increased the odds I got lynched.


Third point: scum would say the exact same thing, so that's null as shit.





Now, since the thread is so dead I'm not going to be checking more than like once an hour, but here are my thoughts of we survive the night. We obviously have a vig or medic orwe would have been endgamed. That means they're playing dodge the medic tonight and scum went all in on this yesterday not knowing we had an out.


Decon is obviously scum, he might as well have claimed in thread. Scum went all in on this so I would treat everyone who voted Decon as town except Pandain. As for the people on my wagon, CC and Sent both should know me well enough that I'm notorious lynchbait. With Sent's other play this game, he's scum.CC I'll have to check into when I have time.


Pandain is also scum. His positioning post lynch is so unnatural. He knew how iamp was going to flip and immediately started jockeying for positioning in case the game doesn't end. The other two are on lamps wagon or Mr CC.


I'd expect one of them to be a vet who is experienced with me, yet has been pushing me for anything more than I policy lynch(Mocsta and Rayn come to mind, they both saw me play well in Basterd IIRC and should know my activity isn't alignment indicative at all). I expect everyone to disregard this since I'm not confirmed town, but I'm a likely shot if they're playing dodge the medic. If I flip, please listen to this. My money is on Mocsta because it fits perfectly with his reckless play this game.


TLDR: Decon, Pandain, Sent are scum. Mocsta probably is, if not Rayn is. Not sure on fifth yet.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 02 2013 19:05 GMT
#6056
On October 03 2013 03:29 Pandain wrote:
What are you trying to accomplish with that post Stutters

To illustrate his clearly not town mindset regarding yesterday.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 03 2013 14:13 GMT
#6117
I'm driving to an appointment so I'll elaborate once I get there but absolutely do not counterclaim if you exist Medic
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 03 2013 14:56 GMT
#6131
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 04 2013 14:33 GMT
#6269
So I take it you guys don't like my Pandain idea?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 04 2013 15:57 GMT
#6274
He became significantly more interested in the game when it is essentially over barring some miraculous save and a 5/5 successful lynch. His question about surrender is incredibly unnatural considering his next post is so tryhard and there really is no true hint undertones of disappointment. I see it as him faking that surrender to come off as more town. Now there is no reason to do this without a scum PR because he could play exactly like he was and he wouldn't be lynched over Decon or myself. However with the significant increase in the scumminess of his posting, if he is the RBer he might have been afraid of a wagon forming on him since us hitting the RBer is the only way scum will lose now.

Yes it is based on assumptions, however as far as I'm concerned he is confirmed scum from how he handled the iamp lynch and there is no reason he needed to make a move unless he was the essential member of the scum team for their endgame.


That said if I can't get traction on this, Decon is my next choice because there is the possibility he is the RBer since his medic claim was out of necessity, so he wouldn't have a choice but to take that risk.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 04 2013 16:15 GMT
#6278
##vote: Deconduo

Kita, what do you think about Pandain?
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