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Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 26 2013 16:11 GMT
#4301
On September 27 2013 00:41 Koshi wrote:
Oh btw. When catching up this morning I was 50/50 on LM being a doc tbh. But I was 100% certain Mocsta was fake. Did anybody else share that feeling on Mocsta claim? It felt like a scum thing to do or a really obnoxious townie thing rather than a real doc claim.

Some people reacted totally different. Believed Mocsta without considering this. Umasi pops to mind. Any1 else noticed? Didnt reread yet. Just popped in my mind. You guys believed Mocsta?


I considered it, I just realized Mocsta had shat on the carpet at that point no matter what was what, and LM flipping scum was the only chance that we aren't very likely to lose in a new climate where scum can pretty much do anything they want for an entire day. I hoped I had been wrong and playing like crap all game, in essence. Then Mocsta did a turnaround and suddenly sees how towny everything I have done is (after starting a crap wagon on me just before the doc mishaps)

I'm not sure if I've been fooled by my personality read on Mocsta all along and he's been playing dumb at certain moments, and is organized-chaotic scum. I don't think I buy his case on me at the end of the day being real, and he's given no sign it was a town ploy to get a scum reaction (as far as I can see, only skimmed the thread up to date today as yet)

Does Mocsta play dumb, as town or scum? Or is it all recklessness?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:16 GMT
#4302
^ I hope he is scum. Otherwise shit doesn't make sense anymore. No need to meta anything.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:19 GMT
#4303
On September 27 2013 01:11 Zaragon wrote:

Does Mocsta play dumb, as town or scum? Or is it all recklessness?


That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

To be honest I've never been that good at reading Mocsta. So I can only ask if he's playing for town. *shrug*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 26 2013 16:20 GMT
#4304
On September 27 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote:
Ok, plz reread page 199-200.

People that look good to Mocsta claim. Deconduo, VE (both knew that there was something wrong to an extend)
People that look like shit to Mocsta claim: CC, Umasi (watching a trainwreck as a spectator)

Look at this
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:52 Mocsta wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
HE COULDN'T CLAIM THAT AS SCUM IF HE'S ABOUT TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE IT WOULD OUT YAMATO AS SCUM

RIGHT?!

Its real

Its why i said hes goign to get shot (or RB'd is prob wiser)

in the end, hes completely useless VT now.. it wasnt required.


And then CC his reply to this Mocsta message:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Or he's trying to out a doctor, and trying to switch the vote onto Cephiro.

FUCK! no mention of yam at ALL in his filter either. FUUUUUUUCK

Here CC knows what Mocsta doesn't know, that there is no breadcrumb. Ofc CC isn't as retarded as Mocsta so he just plants the idea in the thread. Mocsta takes this idea and decides to do this:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:
OK. I DOC'D YAM

everyone, pile onto lonemeow.

Like CC should now it is fake, or at least something is funny, but this is how he replies:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
DAMNIT MOCSTA

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
LOL IN B4 BOTH DOCS DOCCED YAM LOL

The last message is in line with CC his posting this game. Remember when I said scumslip before I went to bed. CC is an arrogant bastard this game that is just commenting this game in scum perspective. Here he does it again. I really wonder if he is scum tbh, because he thinks exactly how a scummer would think. omg 2 blue roles, because they are both not red for sure.


To add:

On September 26 2013 09:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moc is on the right track. Let's do this shit.

Vote for Dec / Zara / Ceph / LM

DO THIS SHIT


On September 26 2013 10:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Geript voting Zaragon makes me not want to vote Zaragon anymore...



About the vote switch to and off me. CC has never looked very good to me, but I'm still not sure if he's awful town or scum. More scummy than before. His thought processes have looked weak and often spurious to me the entire game.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:21 GMT
#4305
Zaragon, check out Cheesecake's signature. What it says has always been true up to this game. So... meh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:24 GMT
#4306
On September 27 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote:
Ok, plz reread page 199-200.

People that look good to Mocsta claim. Deconduo, VE (both knew that there was something wrong to an extend)
People that look like shit to Mocsta claim: CC, Umasi (watching a trainwreck as a spectator)

Look at this
On September 26 2013 10:52 Mocsta wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
HE COULDN'T CLAIM THAT AS SCUM IF HE'S ABOUT TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE IT WOULD OUT YAMATO AS SCUM

RIGHT?!

Its real

Its why i said hes goign to get shot (or RB'd is prob wiser)

in the end, hes completely useless VT now.. it wasnt required.


And then CC his reply to this Mocsta message:
On September 26 2013 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Or he's trying to out a doctor, and trying to switch the vote onto Cephiro.

FUCK! no mention of yam at ALL in his filter either. FUUUUUUUCK

Here CC knows what Mocsta doesn't know, that there is no breadcrumb. Ofc CC isn't as retarded as Mocsta so he just plants the idea in the thread. Mocsta takes this idea and decides to do this:
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:
OK. I DOC'D YAM

everyone, pile onto lonemeow.

Like CC should now it is fake, or at least something is funny, but this is how he replies:
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
DAMNIT MOCSTA

On September 26 2013 10:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
LOL IN B4 BOTH DOCS DOCCED YAM LOL

The last message is in line with CC his posting this game. Remember when I said scumslip before I went to bed. CC is an arrogant bastard this game that is just commenting this game in scum perspective. Here he does it again. I really wonder if he is scum tbh, because he thinks exactly how a scummer would think. omg 2 blue roles, because they are both not red for sure.


You see that all assumes your interpretation is right

I thought decon looked bad because he was *too* calm. Maybe he just didn't get sucked in?

Dunno. I wish decon would get more involved

Yeah, but decon acts normally. Don't forget this all happens in less than 10 minutes.
Decon reads claim.
Decon wants to move off LM.
Decon reads counterclaim.
Decon is sceptical and asks if there is a breadcrumb + says this might look like a troll Mocsta thing.

Nothing wrong there.

CC is the first to be sceptical of claim of LM, knew there is no breadcrumb really fast. (3 mins)
CC isn't sceptical of claim of Mocsta.
CC starts thinking about 2 docs.
Umasi delurks and instant quotes the 2 docs idea. (dat f5 skill)(4 messages in same minute were posted, it must really have been instant quote.) (So both of those fuckers instantly think about 2 docs over anything else)

Pandain reaction is normal.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 26 2013 16:24 GMT
#4307
Yeah Stutters is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:26 GMT
#4308
ok Koshi, that makes sense about decon. I hope he comes back and plays. I had the townread on decon for the dumb reason of him having the brainfart about the nightkills, so yeah.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:26 GMT
#4309
Ok Umasi is officially added into the Koshi scumlist:
Rayn, CC, Mocsta, Umasi
I had a good night of sleep.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 26 2013 16:27 GMT
#4310
Decon is town btw he went back and read... He also found my supertown quote that marv and ve didnt, and i am self centered
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:27 GMT
#4311
Hmm. Nha dnu. It cheapens my incredible list a bit.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:27 GMT
#4312
I don't think Umasi is mafia right now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:28 GMT
#4313
Yeah. true. Same.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:29 GMT
#4314
Take a look at his last mafia game - he was really assertive and confident. Like the opposite of here, and he's like he was in Golden
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#4315
Yeah, I was in both games.

Is CC always a little fucker as town? Because now I am certain that he is a little fucker if he is town.

Look at those posts:
"I am certain 1 of the wagons are scum"
"Scums must be laughing their ass off" (because both aren't scum)
"Both are scum"
"Both are not scum"

On September 26 2013 09:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
On September 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:
i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum

my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game

wave should be medic'd

DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch

Mocsta is clearly town

i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker

this FT post is long but literally says nothing.

no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough


I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway.




LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu


However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie.




Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm parity cop

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro



Who's this guy?

replaced xzavier hasn't done shit.

One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man...


On September 26 2013 09:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
You know? I have no idea at all. Scum are probably laughing their asses off.


On September 26 2013 09:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moc is on the right track. Let's do this shit.

Vote for Dec / Zara / Ceph / LM

DO THIS SHIT


On September 26 2013 10:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm getting the feeling that both of these guys are town and scum dont give a fuck where the vote lands.



I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#4316
But don't be mistaken. I think rayn is more likely to be mafia over anybody else. He and Mocsta are close though.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#4317
On September 27 2013 01:37 Koshi wrote:

Look at those posts:
"I am certain 1 of the wagons are scum"
"Scums must be laughing their ass off" (because both aren't scum)
"Both are scum"
"Both are not scum"



You'd imagine mafia would be at least a little more consistent, wouldn't you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#4318
On September 27 2013 01:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 01:37 Koshi wrote:

Look at those posts:
"I am certain 1 of the wagons are scum"
"Scums must be laughing their ass off" (because both aren't scum)
"Both are scum"
"Both are not scum"



You'd imagine mafia would be at least a little more consistent, wouldn't you?

Yep. So I ask. Is he a little fucker as town?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#4319
On September 27 2013 01:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 01:39 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 01:37 Koshi wrote:

Look at those posts:
"I am certain 1 of the wagons are scum"
"Scums must be laughing their ass off" (because both aren't scum)
"Both are scum"
"Both are not scum"



You'd imagine mafia would be at least a little more consistent, wouldn't you?

Yep. So I ask. Is he a little fucker as town?


Like I said to Zaragon. Read his signature. It's generally (always so far) true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#4320
joy.
I had a good night of sleep.
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