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On September 24 2013 07:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why don't you tell us Risen? Has it reached that point with marv yet? Do you think he's scum directing conversation/filling post history? Or do you think he's town conversing with me about inane stuff?

On September 24 2013 07:55 yamato77 wrote:
deconduo calls me out for the small content in my filter

are you serious

On September 24 2013 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:

Would you like some wish to go with your wash?

On September 24 2013 08:03 marvellosity wrote:
I think Risen is on drugs

On September 24 2013 08:08 marvellosity wrote:


no, i just think you're demented, nothing more.

On September 24 2013 08:14 marvellosity wrote:
thoughts on Ceph VE? Or anyone who cares to read it?

On September 23 2013 11:01 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, voting for LoneMeow because:

1) He's appareantly a new player I have no idea of
2) He started martyring which is something I dislike
3) This Ray guy on a quick look doesn't look like he should be killed
4) I have no idea about this FirmTofu guy
5) Some other wagons that were in the last votecount have players that I'm familiar with and am able to read during nightphase

On September 24 2013 08:32 Pandain wrote:
I'll be back later tonight.

In case I (somehow) get shot before I come back, here is my last good read(and advice).


Emotion makes people towns

Basically read any analysis. Scum are the ones who are inherently afraid to post, while town doesn't have that limitation. Because of this, any scum post, unless they're on the verge of being lynched(or a scum mate is), is going to be forced post rather than a genuine one.

I think it's very hard to fake an emotion resulting from feeling bad this game. Mafia you don't even really feel bad, because you have a team to rest it on. You weren't playing bad, you were playing "well", simply as mafia. They didn't know.

But if you're town and others criticize you, that hurts.

Gertript is known for pulling off crazy tricks. Or at least, he did it in Aperture.


This post is too genuine for me. First, scum don't say they don't feel the game as an excuse. Actually to be fair they definitely can, but I have never seen a scum use an excuse like that. Because scum actually do feel for the game, it is hard to post posts which go against directly what you believe.

To clarify further, being interested in the game(having a feel for it), and being interested in solving it are the two distinctions between emotion in mafia.

Is this clear?

Gertrip if you're reading this, I know how you feel. I felt exactly the same way in a weird Caller Japenese themed game. I was sure that Ace was scum but no one believed me. Eventually I was convinced I had no idea what to believe. And I hated it because I was confused.

Keep at it man, and look at Palmar. He improved so much despite people constantly shit-talking him. Don't give up, and look at other people besides DP. I don't think shooting him is a good idea, even if you think he's mafia, because he is so strong later on.

On September 24 2013 09:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

How many vig claims have we had now? I remember someone saying earlier that they have believed exactly ZERO of the, what, 5 claims or something we've seen so far? And for good reason imo.

The issue becomes, how do you know you're GOING to be seeing more of him tomorrow? I am wary of giving too many players free passes to 'see' what they will do because that will often bite one in the ass (ie Kush). I'm not even sure I agree that his out-of-left field attack on you is ballsy at all. I don't know if scum have a reason to fear you atm. You've done a lot of decent posting, but not a lot of pushing/accusing, let's say? TBH I don't know who scum are afraid of atm. I can't really think of the major active posters who has done a great deal of pushing aside from maybe yamato.

On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.

On September 24 2013 23:59 Mocsta wrote:

Maybe, like if you want to discuss him. I won't stop you at all.

From my perpsective, we are 4 townies down (luckily only 1 blue.. which arguably was a good outcome.. newbie with parity in a game with framer/GF = mindfucks).

Hence, I'm looking at best chance to ensure a scum lynch this cycle.
I can say with my heart on sleeve, yes... FT can flip scum.. but the *can* is not confident; and Im not sure how much talking about it, will resolve that. Hes just a selfish*cunt* of a player. I actually really hate FT, and might consider not joining games with him again. [If town.. I just know post-game he will complain about how obvious town he was, and everyone is stupid]

Im just saying, I think ppl like pandain and sentinel and lonemeow are a much higher percentage to get that first red blood. Therefore, it makes sense to narrow/focus the towns brain trust on that subset of players.

On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
SNIP

This is a semi closed setup, the roles are known but the exact number is not. Not all of these roles may be present in the game.

SNIP

On September 25 2013 01:47 marvellosity wrote:


Risen, can you explain this comment?

On September 25 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:
If anyone was curious about my little unvote-vote tango, it was because I remembered/found this:



And thought, oh my, we're lynching the doctor! So I unvoted. Then kept browsing his filter and noted that yamato was a scumread of his, so it makes zero sense for him having protected yamato. So I revoted.

On September 25 2013 02:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Risen, as far as I understand the set up there are no goons. We have 6 scummers and the possible roles are RB, GF and Framer. We also had only one player claiming roleblock (as far as I have seen). I think it is pretty reasonable to assume there are Framer/GF maybe even more than one per role.

On September 25 2013 04:06 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm not against lynching either of Sentinel or FirmTofu, but I think I would still prefer Umasi. He's "kind of participating" but hasn't really said much anything at all.

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Regarding Cephiro:

The apathy in itself is not alignment indicative; I checked some of his earlier games and in those he was active and involved both as scum and town.



Where did you disappear? Been a long time since that post, and I know you're not away from your computer...

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I don't usually bother to explain much since in my experience it just gets one lynched, but since you asked: I'm having some pretty big IRL issues both physically and mentally due to my injury.

And I feel like a bronze player dropped into grand master league.

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Please update the first post with current players after the replacements and new deadline.

On September 25 2013 10:47 Mocsta wrote:
Risen.

Do u have a reason to call me scum, other than a supposed scum slip....

P.s. no goons in this game