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On September 26 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote:
Pretty sure they aren't all mafia.
Can you talk to me about rayn in a fashion that I'll understand?
Do you not buy his "i play differently in large games" thing?
You think Mocsta pulled all that shit as mafia?
Mocsta is pulling shit all game. Claiming doc to get LM lynched is in line with the start of his game.
Rayn. He doesn't play different in large games. Didn't you see his tunnel on me. That is exactly like in minis. Except it wasn't.
CC. Fuck the little fucker if he isn't blue or red. Read his posts. Pure evil.
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On September 26 2013 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi seriously. I am getting very frustrated with you. You even YOURSELF said the case was justified. You were playing very fucking differently than you play as town. And you know it.
Now, if you are town, look at this from my perspective. Wtf am i supposed to do? Am i supposed to call you town just because? Why? I thought you were scum. Then you upped your play on N1, now you are back to this tunnel shit because of no fucking reason. Are you scum, for real? I could see you doing this as scum. Play purposely like shit just to justify your tunnel on me after that the whole fucking game and you look good for strong townies because you are not afraid to attack me. Stop this fucking bullshit and make a decent case if you think i am scum. Otherwise i will lynch you, because if you do not make a case or stop it you are scum.
I think you are scum. I can't make a case in which suddenly everybody will see you as scum. I can only repeat that you are scum. Would suck if you aren't.
I will probably repeat that you are scum for a very long time. Should bother you, but try to not let it bother you too much.
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On September 26 2013 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:This is what Koshi looks like to me in this game: D1 start. Fucking clueless as mafia. Then he gets accused. Then this happens (from GoT scum QT): + Show Spoiler +raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:20 PM ET (US)
You can accuse fellow mafians if you have a "good" reason to. We are good enough to defend ourselves. Just do not make an idiot out of yourself by stupid stuff, that gets you policy lynched.
For example, if there is anything that contradicts with your mindset in me, ask me questions. Be aggressive towards me. I do not mind, i can defend myself. You need to interact with your scumbuddies aswell, because we will lose member(s) at some point and you look terrible if you do not talk about your scumbuddies at all.
Especially now when you are "under attack", even if you make a case on scum, you have no credit. There is no harm, IF YOUR CASE IS BELIEVEABLE from town pov. It does not have to be right, it has to be so that you look town.
If you dunno how to do that, attack suspicious townies instead. :D
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:15 PM ET (US)
Do not afk. That´s the worst thing you can do. I´m gonna push a lynch on a lurker if necessay (FT, Risen looks really bad, nachodude, Sharrant, etc.)
Just remember this: Keep track of where your town!mind is. What are your "intentions", who do you think is mafia, what has your game plan been, who does oppose your game plan and "what that might mean".
You are ok if you follow these things, whether or not you are right.
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Koshi
08-08-2013
06:08 PM ET (US)
How do I enter the thread now? Or do I keep afk?
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Koshi
08-08-2013
06:07 PM ET (US)
Ok, then I hold it back for when people ask me questions. I can trow Clarity under the bus at the same time because he soft defended OAts twice already and FoS me with a silly reason.
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:05 PM ET (US)
TLDR; It does not matter who you accuse, but keep your story straight.
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:04 PM ET (US)
I dunno. Seems like a forced case to me (going MIA is not a scumtell). Keeping house names secret might be, if you can convince other people that is the right thing to do (revealing them), how did you act on th ebeginning regarding that? Did you immediately reveal house names? If you didn´t, why is Oats scum because of that for you? Having no scumreads and living happily ever after in his house might be scummy, it also might be that he genuinely thought everyone is town. How do you "prove" that?
Make a case if you think it´s gonna be good enough, but think about what you say.
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Koshi
08-08-2013
05:58 PM ET (US)
Could I make a case around Oats? Or do people see him as town? He is asleep atm so he can't retaliate for a couple of hours.
My case would be around the fact that in the first 6 hours he prevented scumhunting by trying to keep house names a secret, while when I tried to create a better atmosphere to scumhunt he shot me down asking silly questions (page 20 pages long when there were only 6 pages) or him blaming me for having no scumreads while he was only sharing townreads based on "friendly and shit". When SnB came in saying that there were some problems in their House, Oats suddenly went MIA. Except that now he does not need anyone to tell that because i even put that in thread for DP on D1. What does Koshi do? This: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote:If I ever host a game it will have a minimum 10 posts a day rule. Or maybe next game I play in I will start a policy that you need to make 10 posts a day otherwise you get lynched. If you are town and you don't post 10 times you just fail at life and at this game. Always the same people talking and I can't read any of them, except give them a town read... EXCEPT Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".
wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"? Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad" You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost. I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum. The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing? no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive. I have such a problem with this post. Like which stupid vigi is going to use his shot on a guy that has almost no hp? 6 Lords should have killed gumshoe and if gumshoe was still alive at the end of the day he should have been checked by a Lord on n2. Or even n1 like iamp did but then it is VERY suspicious that after the 1 hp check on gumshoe, gumshoe dies. The chance that scum spent a part or all their KP on is 0%. The only reason scum would target gum is if they knew he was blue or they knew he had 1 hp and gambled blue. So if there was a vigi he would have shot a target on the list but not the first 2 because his shot could be less effective. I think iamp is scum. Just because of this post and the fact he used the hp check. If iamp is not scum there is scum hiding in his House and I do not see how iamp does not see this. On top of that the whole FTofu lynch felt wrong. Just like FTofu said, there were worse lurkers than him, or atleast equally worse. There was no case on FT except "the wagon of justice is here yabababababa." Then the vote on yamato from iamp was without case as well. I (Koshi) completely would have also voted yamato after a redclaim obviously but I wouldn't have shot down Oats trying to talk about it. Or at least give some sort of argument to Oats why Yamato is scum except for the redcheck. Show nested quote +yamato77- Thought he was town because of the fight early on but has been entirely apathetic in the game and is not intrested in catching scum at all. More intrested in complaining. could be scum yamato could be scum in iamp his will. While the explanation to why he is scum also has a townread in it. In iamp his last will Vivax is his strongest scumread. While Vivax has been iamps strongest scumread this entire game, iamp has decided during the lynch only Vivax should be spared and FT should be lynched. The scumreason for this is if you get a town Vivax lynched you look extremely scummy, while discrediting Vivax the entire game till somebody else lynches him is way better. Also, I am a townread from iamp. That's all friendly and shit but why do I get a feeling I am getting set up for gettting lynched when it is lylo/mylo. Just like last game... PS: the friendly and shit is a *wink* at Oats who I now consider town if yamato flips scum. If Yamato flips towns this was all for nothing and Oats can be lynched. He makes a conspiracy theory that is so stupid everyone thinks he is clueless town and genuinely believes in that. He sticks with it until iamp dies but the townread stays after that. This is EXACTLY what Koshi is doing this game. Except that he has no case, BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE A FUCKING CASE!
:D
Nha.
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Aperture was indeed a strange game for you rayn. But you were consistent strange in that game. Not so much this game. Anyway it's cool. I might not get shot if you decide to fight back.
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On September 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Aperture was indeed a strange game for you rayn. But you were consistent strange in that game. Not so much this game. Anyway it's cool. I might not get shot if you decide to fight back. wtf is this? Are you tunneling me because you don't wanna get shot? Is that what you are saying? weak man.. really weak.
No. That's not it.
Anyway, the case on you is more like I count everything you post and divide it with the rayn scumhunting drived posts. The number I get then is higher than in other games of you. Aperture not included. But there you had that pokemon role, dnu if it has something to do with it but w.e. Fact is Aperture was an anomaly.
So dnu how you put that in a case. It's a total package.
So I am just yelling you are scum till others see it.
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Also, my game is not bad at all.
Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue.
Told you guys to lynch VA and not shoot him.
Totes right to doc yamato/BH. Poor WoS. I read his filter already a bit. Need to read more. Didn't find something like his awesome Grack read in Golden Sun. But didn't read the last pages yet. Who knows I might find a gem.
Anyway. I just keep being awesome. If I start making cases I would be too awesome to contain.
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Yeah no. There is nothing in WoS filter that I like. Dislike his reads even. Too bad.
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Too bad* that I don't like his reads I mean obviously.
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On September 26 2013 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:And what is this: That's an odd thing to say. Why are you proud of being on a target that was not lynched?
Proud on being not on a target that was blue.
It's sad that I am not on the target that get lynched, but I was on the second wagon twice. I can't vote for all the other kids. And if people are not voting on a wagon because I am on that wagon, rofl.
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On September 26 2013 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 22:04 Koshi wrote:
Also, my game is not bad at all.
Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue.
Told you guys to lynch VA and not shoot him.
Totes right to doc yamato/BH. Poor WoS. I read his filter already a bit. Need to read more. Didn't find something like his awesome Grack read in Golden Sun. But didn't read the last pages yet. Who knows I might find a gem.
Anyway. I just keep being awesome. If I start making cases I would be too awesome to contain. Yeah you should start making cases. I still dislike your D1 vote and want you to explain it. You voted for a guy you didn't even think is mafia. How was that good?
Just like yesterday I felt like it was a better choice than the other wagon. It's going to be really difficult to tell me different.
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On September 26 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 22:22 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:And what is this: Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue. That's an odd thing to say. Why are you proud of being on a target that was not lynched? Proud on being not on a target that was blue. It's sad that I am not on the target that get lynched, but I was on the second wagon twice. I can't vote for all the other kids. And if people are not voting on a wagon because I am on that wagon, rofl. Your mindset is already really fishy. The way you present what i quoted screams "at least i didn't mislynch a blue". You don't say if people were scum/bad - people who actually were on that wagon. You cast doubt on people who were on a mislynch(es) but you are not telling clearly what that means. At the same time you excuse yourself from taking responsibility of any lynch. That's really scummy Koshi. On top of that, you still voted for a guy you didn't think is scum on D1. And you have yet to explain that vote.
What I say is simple rayn. +-20 votes were on blues, I didn't made a single vote of that. I am saying that makes me awesome, it makes the people who voted on the blues less awesome.
I already said the scumteam is
rayn
mocsta
CC
Nothing to do with votes etc etc.
But I am going to let you kids argue. Need to do work now that I am back in Belgium.
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On September 26 2013 22:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 26 2013 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
You effectively made the whole lynch meaningless.
First day was screwed up by the hosting business, and then you removed some of the most valuable information we could have got from that lynch. This is the point. It's impossible to make analysis from the lynch because you ruined it Mocsta.. well, you and marv are waving ya dicks around like cephiro *IS* scum; so the parts before the claim is valid as I outlined.
rayn did that?
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ahh you meant after the flip.
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On September 26 2013 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 22:45 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 22:43 Mocsta wrote:On September 26 2013 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 26 2013 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
You effectively made the whole lynch meaningless.
First day was screwed up by the hosting business, and then you removed some of the most valuable information we could have got from that lynch. This is the point. It's impossible to make analysis from the lynch because you ruined it Mocsta.. well, you and marv are waving ya dicks around like cephiro *IS* scum; so the parts before the claim is valid as I outlined. rayn did that? yes i did that.
After the flip I think you made a 1 liner claiming that indeed. Before the flip nha. 1upping yamato and begging marv you could lynch Cephiro is not even remotely doing that. We were too busy seeing grack trying to ctrl+b his reads in excel. good fun.
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On September 26 2013 23:29 strongandbig wrote:
Nah I still like the case.
I just can't decide if your fakeclaim makes you scum, or if we should policy lynch you, or if we should let you live.
Like, I kind of see what Marv is thinking about needing to policy lynch you to guarantee the integrity of mafia as a game. Look at grack last game, he was scum and made a retarded fakeclaim (less egregious than this one tho) which got oeople to say "only townies would make this stupid a fakeclaim".
But otoh I really want to kill cephiro.
Nha, it was the fact he added fake timestamps to his fakeclaim in a game that roles were allowed to be posted.
This is something completely different.
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Oh btw. When catching up this morning I was 50/50 on LM being a doc tbh. But I was 100% certain Mocsta was fake. Did anybody else share that feeling on Mocsta claim? It felt like a scum thing to do or a really obnoxious townie thing rather than a real doc claim.
Some people reacted totally different. Believed Mocsta without considering this. Umasi pops to mind. Any1 else noticed? Didnt reread yet. Just popped in my mind. You guys believed Mocsta?
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Ok, plz reread page 199-200.
People that look good to Mocsta claim. Deconduo, VE (both knew that there was something wrong to an extend)
People that look like shit to Mocsta claim: CC, Umasi (watching a trainwreck as a spectator)
Look at this
On September 26 2013 10:52 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 10:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
HE COULDN'T CLAIM THAT AS SCUM IF HE'S ABOUT TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE IT WOULD OUT YAMATO AS SCUM
RIGHT?! Its real Its why i said hes goign to get shot (or RB'd is prob wiser) in the end, hes completely useless VT now.. it wasnt required.
And then CC his reply to this Mocsta message:
On September 26 2013 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Or he's trying to out a doctor, and trying to switch the vote onto Cephiro.
FUCK! no mention of yam at ALL in his filter either. FUUUUUUUCK
Here CC knows what Mocsta doesn't know, that there is no breadcrumb. Ofc CC isn't as retarded as Mocsta so he just plants the idea in the thread. Mocsta takes this idea and decides to do this:
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:
OK. I DOC'D YAM
everyone, pile onto lonemeow.
Like CC should now it is fake, or at least something is funny, but this is how he replies:
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
DAMNIT MOCSTA
On September 26 2013 10:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
LOL IN B4 BOTH DOCS DOCCED YAM LOL
The last message is in line with CC his posting this game. Remember when I said scumslip before I went to bed. CC is an arrogant bastard this game that is just commenting this game in scum perspective. Here he does it again. I really wonder if he is scum tbh, because he thinks exactly how a scummer would think. omg 2 blue roles, because they are both not red for sure.
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On September 26 2013 11:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 11:00 Mocsta wrote:kk. im not doc, i just wanted lone lynched sorry guise  hes scum i tell you ! Wow....
On September 26 2013 11:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 11:06 iamperfection wrote:On September 26 2013 11:06 geript wrote:On September 26 2013 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
someone vig geript tonight by the way This go fuck yourself You have somebody knew to hate, iamp <3 Also we shouldn't be talking.
This how it continuous, Everybody is mad. CC is posting smiley faces and went to a new subject...
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^ I hope he is scum. Otherwise shit doesn't make sense anymore. No need to meta anything.
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