EPTOn October 02 2013 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
Oo is scum yo
Oo is scum yo
Yes, I am scum. Definitely. I'm scum, guys!
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Or do you mean why are you green instead of white? Because I colored all the cells with names based on my view of where we're at. Is it right? Fucked if I know. It looks like we're in defeatist mode here from several people who just want to end the game (I'm right there with them but I'm not plaguing the thread with my own misery because it's not fucking helpful). Never mind that the BM is rampant and people keep "putting others in their place" which just makes for an environment that isn't conducive to a fun game (Pandain, Risen, JAT, for instance, fuck you guys for that shit and if you're scum you can enjoy the same never-play-in-games-with-me again as well.) I want out just as bad as everyone else at this point. I just begged to be shot. Luckily for me I'm apparently suspicious enough to run a mislynch on (and someone can explain that to me because that's fucking nebulous. If you think my filter can reach this length when I play as mafia you're high) so I will not be shot. My VCA isn't netting me much data because we're lynching new people every day outside of Cephiro. So to finally answer your question, you have to be town because I cannot reconcile that level of attention-grabbing stupid behavior on a mafia vs. town lynch (whereas a town versus town lynch or a scum versus scum lynch I might see it differently) and if that IS the case then I hope you go straight to hell, as well. | ||
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This is a friendly reminder that everything up to the Iamperfection lynch is what matters for analysis. Look for D2 and D4 patterns. I'll try to have a few reflections on what my VCA shows before I pass out. Notable mentions are that coag stays true to his town self with an arguably objectively bad voting record, and that risen voted 10 unique times on D4. I'm not actually looking at it right now, so this is from memory. FT seems to have crumbled under the pressure and bussed today with his vote. The stutters lynch seems to have been the "bone" from the mafia team today as the pressure mounts to not look scummy based on voting patterns. If decon isn't vigged auto-lynch him tomorrow. Find the scum between the orange names in my prior list. I predict Koshi will ride Rayn's dick like he has since the beginning of time. Marv didn't think it was a hard double bus shit-fest so I bow to his wisdom on that and I prefer Koshi for town of the two. Auto-lynch decon D5 Auto-lynch stutters D6 FT's clinical voice aggravates the shit out of me and the only thing holding me back from saying auto-lynch him next is that I find his style of deflection repulsive but not necessarily indicative of scum. Dig deeper. It's in your hands. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MwtAECb.png) Sentinel voting pattern doesn't make sense for someone who isn't going to participate much in the late game, based on my interpretation of the game state. Either the game he is running is taking up too much of his time or he has IRL things to attend to, it doesn't matter, I suppose. Some of my town reads have a town read on Sentinel so maybe I'd defer to their wisdom. How the NKs play out tonight is going to help a ton, assuming I survive to tomorrow. Votes of interest from glancing at it: Risen sticking with FT on D2. JAT's vote on Iamperfection (as compared to his other votes, was the method different? it's his only "bad" vote) SNB would be interesting if he had owned the slot since D1. Not sure how to treat that. Nobody who voted for FT D1 at the end of the day is a stand-out scum read for me. Scum had no true reason to bus on D1 given no flips. Helps affirm my reads on those players. | ||
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On October 03 2013 07:12 Mocsta wrote: Did anyone play with OO in the game he supposedly caught Geript as scum, with his VCA? I want to know specifically, whether he did anything more than VCA? I was dead at that point Mocsta. So no, that would not be possible. | ||
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On October 03 2013 07:12 Mocsta wrote: Did anyone play with OO in the game he supposedly caught Geript as scum, with his VCA? I want to know specifically, whether he did anything more than VCA? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ama7_Mcwk4rOdGhHaEFENGVBT0VZOTEydFJSR1pOcnc&usp=drive_web#gid=2 | ||
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On October 03 2013 07:26 Mocsta wrote: So in that game did you actually scum hunt? Cso this game you have hid behind VCA the entire time. sigh, i dont even know why im asking questions. Fuck thsi shit. peace out. lol | ||
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On October 03 2013 08:04 Mocsta wrote: u mean the post where u call me town for personal reasons? lololool and then substantiate the post by talking about BM. the #s on the VCA don't even make sense, and the outcome is not consistent with the # score. for me, the only thing u have going for u is the night 1 rb, and u asked us to ignore that. so I'm left with nothing. I.e, zero scum hunting I struggle to find the patience to discuss anything at all with you. If this post is completely devoid of any indication of scum hunting whatsoever then feel free to vote me tomorrow or whatever, it's (y)our funeral. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19844381 Darthpunk / SNB slot - town Notes: dp thinks geript is scum for early garbage. rayn disagrees with dp's assessment that geripts argument changed. dp says wos won't die night 1 this game. what assumptions about the gamestate does he make? town reads for the percieved strong players? does the fact that no strong players were shot successfully mean that the scum team is hiding among them or did the mafia team just want to ensure shots went through? this slot definitely town based on dp alone. Rayn - Nostradamus, also town: On September 22 2013 09:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Something is not right in this game. My strongest town read is ObviousOne. notes: koshi read is unsure, reflects more on koshi? need to compare with reverse read interesting defense of VA, feels good http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19808565 - super townie feels here Strange miscommunication with Koshi RE: Vayne vote, didn't understand it was pressure? I feel like I should be on the scum side of the spectrum from feels. Yamato - town notes: saved by lynched medic, god help us if there isn't another one Kush - I have him as town, info's already in my filter for that. You can disagree if you want. notes: not calling enough people scum to be scum. vote history is useless have to go by filter alone i guess? LOL: On September 22 2013 02:05 kushm4sta wrote: are you serious right now stutters.... is this a plynch? a plynch from someone who gets modkilled every game for inactivity? On September 25 2013 08:12 kushm4sta wrote: fuck i stopped reading after the underline lol can't lynch this guy, too funny. Koshi - whole thought process seems to be in the thread, probably town. notes: soooooo many oneliners soooooo many votes On September 22 2013 03:23 Koshi wrote: Yamato totes town. Docs should note down his name on a piece of paper and glue it above their bed. trending towards scum read on rayn by the end of d1 On September 23 2013 22:16 Koshi wrote: Please tell me why exactly you wrote this sentence. Anyone? Anyone see how this might be bad news for Koshi? Maybe? I think it's the worst thing in his filter so if it's nothing then he's probably town. The rayn<->koshi dynamic is fucking weird. That's a super long bus if they're both scum, rayn shouted much of d1 away at koshi. Weak attempt at diverting the LM lynch, ends day with vote on Cephiro. FirmTofu - a re-read of his filter yesterday made me think town. Response to my idea to meta seemed townie, marv confirmed to be genuine. Probably town. Linked to Cephiro if Cephiro is scum, take a look for something like that. Notes: Sentinel case is pretty good Response to concept of reading his meta pretty good. Going to say town more than scum. Pandain - weird suspicions to start, on CC and OO. Quasi-defense of geript. Attack on sentinel. interesting thoughts on Stutters. On September 26 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote: I don't think I'm actually going to respond to that Sentinel post because it's way too dumb. Town Notes: Just fucking 100% town Cephiro - scum. He's the lynch tomorrow. Do it. If he's not shot he needs to be lynched. Notes: none required Mr. Cheesecake - seems intent on keeping me on my toes for his alignment. It's weird. Null then, bbcakes. Notes: Deserves special special attention. Vote analysis tells me he's tied for worst player in the thread. Intentional or not? Pandain vote is pretty much OMGUS, 180s based on Sentinel pressure from Pandain. If he's mafia then his bussing is starting late (think Decon) and his team is probably partly inactive. After LM lynch: On September 26 2013 11:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'm done. Can't stop thinking this in my head as "my work here is done /flex" Deconduo slot - lynch this tomorrow, too. Notes: he's scum On September 26 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote: decondu is a better choice he dosn't even know why he is voting for his scum read. Looks like he picked a top candidate tried to come up with some justification and failed. Coag - town duh Notes: Had a gun Stutters - lynch this as well. Notes: On September 26 2013 10:11 Stutters695 wrote: Sorry guys I've lost all desire to play with this cold. I'm getting over it now so I'll be reading up tomorrow and getting back into it. Lone meow hasn't changed anything from when I said he should be lynched so he's still my vote. No need to play when the town is capable of pulling itself off course. 2 votes, 2 lonemeows iamperfection - ??? Notes: summary post on entry good, aligns with brain for the most part lol @ LM lynch =[ Nullo. Malongo slot - hopefully dies tonight Notes: error, player not found Sentinel - Lynch this as well. On September 23 2013 10:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm reading Ray's filter from newbie, he seems a lot more restricted here than there which is weird. Unless coaches were really on meth (holy shit I was coaching? nobody sent me any questions, I forgot all about it), I can't really say why he would regress in his ability to post substance. Better than yamato I guess. ##Vote: Chairman Ray Notes: Temporary vote on stutters who i have as mafia, votes for marv's meta prod, unvotes and hits umasi next. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19811401 reading this post again makes me want to forget I ever unvoted him. THIRD SCUM READ because other two are boring? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19812073 - this is in response to my question but doesn't answer it specifically. "yamato has more to show" wat? pressure the guy who is already talking? Backs down to yamato when yamato threatens the wrath of Yamato Cannon Look for references to Cephiro in his filter, suspicion but never pushed with any conviction. I just wanna lynch it. Also some kind of self-consciousness going on with keeping us up to date with his IRL situation. VE - firmly uncomfortably null. You pick. (Gut was town, must be scum.) Notes: Every vote of his is subjectively or objectively shitty except for geript and cephiro and neither of those is where his vote landed at the end of either day. His VCA looked VERY similar to this (my method is secret and patented btw) in Carnival and was how I finally caught him. 20: VisceraEyes -6 darthpunk yamato visceraeyes firmtofu mattchew lonemeow cephiro lonemeow geript lonemeow Geript - an angry null. Was all in on a town read for Mocsta. On September 23 2013 20:05 geript wrote: So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that? Okay, maybe town. Maybe. Notes: Dislike him voting for Marv and peacing out for D2 lynch. Hiding in plain sight comes to mind. Just abrasive enough to have your attention, just MIA enough to be forgotten. Call me biased, but more scummy than null for me. Risen - I like him for some reason. Filter is short and sweet and he agrees with me on Sent at the time Notes: Also probably not scum, unless he's reveling in the fact that town is doing poorly in the thread which is in bad taste and probably not something scum would do. BOD town Marv - hoping town, big filter, many word. Notes: Ended up tied for "best" in my VCA (with DP/SNB) GREEEEEEEN Zaragon - hrm. Like his point about the chairman ray voters but that could be meaningless if it was town/town wagons. Votes everywhere for D1. I'll see what VCA says about this situation. Tentative town. Notes: See Mocsta Stream of consciousness. Like him for town right now. Mattchew - worked under the pressure, still feel okay about my town read on him. Notes: Yamato vote wtf. not a fan of this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19805556 buddy yamato after voting him the day before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19837863 ignoring the pre-game is pretty much modus operandi: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19841268 BONUS: making excuses for lack of participation pre-game sucks period, he's got a hard-on for painting marv as scum i think something that could be hit or miss but damn, post-flip justification just makes me squirm about him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=205#4095 Downgrading to scummy but not the scummiest. Umasi - something about voting lonemeow in the chaos, was on sentinel before that. hrm. Null leaning scum. Notes: Avoids the Cray train by voting for Sentinel Self-conscious posting?: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19810587 MIA N1 for the most part. Landed in the middle of my sorted VCA thing. Not a high priority. Could even be wrong on this one. Nullo for now, then. JAT - likely town Notes: Like: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19812866 Went all proactive after I took his license. Likey. Mocsta - im waffles to his maple syrup. I don't know what Moc-logic is. I don't think I want to know. Nullllllllll Notes: Just too fucking crazy. Town or bust. Plus I don't want to read his madness again right now rofl. | ||
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If you disregarded it because each is short, lol Your approach and my approach are completely different. Most prefer the "treat the symptoms" method, which works fantastically in small games. I'm attempting to find the CURE, aka, solve the puzzle, aka, piece together the scum team as a whole. Is my approach bad? I don't care if you think it's bad. I really, honestly don't care what you think Mocsta, because I dislike you. I extend the courtesy of not being a douche-canoe towards you in game because it's the proper thing to do to. But don't think for a second that because I'm trying something new / different / foreign to you that it is somehow inferior or ineffective when you haven't seen how it turns out. We will find out if it's effective when the game ends, won't we? Do it live. Get Rekt. | ||
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That case from Kita with the pic at the top should have set off alarm bells to me. Oh well. | ||
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On October 05 2013 19:40 marvellosity wrote: gg scum town  Mocsta etc Nearing 15k. How will you celebrate? | ||
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On October 06 2013 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote: For someone that hasn't read this 300 page game, can someone give a 5 line tl;dr version? The town in this game was quite bad We lynched both doctors, so sad With so very much lurk The mafia could twerk Around in the thread like Jihad | ||
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