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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 24 2013 06:34 Zaragon wrote: With FT, at first I had a genuine vibe from him, a distracted town catching up and giving decent points along the way. I found them similar to mine at that point. After he disappeared and came back into the game (again) I didn't get a "town catching up" vibe, I got a scum "I have to make myself look townier, quick, something" vibe. When someone tries to make a case on me based on "fluff" and also votes Chairman Ray very late, obviously from my point of view they look very scummy. That gives VE some good circumstances to drop from my scummiest reads--which would give me a better context read on FT since part of my town read on FT was how he read VE--but I don't know what to make of VE's posts now. There is no drive in those posts, town or scum. VE what are your specific thoughts about FT? I agree with you regarding how he returned (the second time) to the thread. I'd add that the first time he came back (and was "pointing things out as he was reading") I didn't feel the posts to be super genuine. Like, the placemarkers at the beginning (Pg 33, ect) felt more like he was trying to put out the vibe that he was reading and catching up more than actually labeling the posts as he was reading. Like, they were mostly just questions about specific posts or comments about posts in general that he was labeling with page numbers...could he not have just left the page-numbers off and achieved the same thing? Something else I didn't like this post: On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote: Finally got some decent reads. :D Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation. As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them. We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term. Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots. Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used. Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned. The thing about this post is this: look at the first line. "Finally got some decent reads." Now look at the rest of the post. Zero reads. Like, okay fine...but if he was town why would he dedicate this whole post to trying to direct vigs then leave out ALL of his reads? He comes back in later with a singular scumread, but what about this abomination? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
However this is not conclusive and my own subjective opinion of how the voting panned out. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 24 2013 06:37 marvellosity wrote: Since when did he say it was a good post? why respond to it, when you've not bothered playing any of the rest of the game so far? you specifically chose to respond to a post which already pointed out that what it was saying wasn't worth much. Just totally useless. Are you scum? Did you just say in effect "Why are you pointing out bad posts? That's just filler"??? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
I've tried to skim through the thread and as many relevant filters as possible, but there's a massive amount of reading to do. However I noticed that yamato has an awful lot of filler and not much actual content. Stuff like this: On September 23 2013 11:40 yamato77 wrote: Vote shenanigans make FT likely mafia On September 23 2013 11:43 yamato77 wrote: VE is also likely mafia On September 23 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote: geript might also be mafia And this: On September 23 2013 08:25 yamato77 wrote: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz On September 23 2013 11:03 yamato77 wrote: This game is retarded. This sort of stuff is scattered throughout his filter, though he does have the occasional content post. Far worse however is Risen. He repeated calls out filler posts: On September 24 2013 03:27 Risen wrote: It's so people can look active without actually doing anything. On September 24 2013 06:36 Risen wrote: Since when is self-excusing fillpost a good post? Yet he doesn't have a single post in his <1 page filter worth reading. As far as vig shots go, he would be at the top of the list. Mostly for my own benefit, but might help others Day/Night Posts + Show Spoiler + Filters + Show Spoiler + 1: DarthPunk 2: raynpelikoneet 3: WaveofShadow 4: gumshoe -> Blazinghand 5: yamato77 6: kushm4sta 7: Koshi 8: ObviousOne 10: FirmTofu 11: Pandain 12: Cephiro 13: Mr. Cheesecake 14: Xzavier -> deconduo 15: Coagulation 16: Stutters695 17: Onegu 18: Zenatsu -> Malongo 19: [UoN]Sentinel 20: VisceraEyes 21: VayneAuthority 22: geript 23: Risen 24: LoneMeow 25: marvellosity 26: Zaragon 27: Mattchew 28: Umasi 29: justanothertownie 30: Mocsta 9: Chairman Ray - Town Parity Cop, Lynched Day 1 | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:13 Risen wrote: Are you scum? Did you just say in effect "Why are you pointing out bad posts? That's just filler"??? Are you monumentally dumb? VE said "I know self-meta isn't relevant, but here's a little tidbit" then you spent a whole post explaining why self-meta isn't relevant. Brilliant, Risen. Your brilliance and intelligence is truly astounding. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:15 marvellosity wrote: Are you monumentally dumb? VE said "I know self-meta isn't relevant, but here's a little tidbit" then you spent a whole post explaining why self-meta isn't relevant. Brilliant, Risen. Your brilliance and intelligence is truly astounding. Agree/Disagree re: FT? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
I agree with everything really, including your reservations about the vote numbers. would be kinda lovely just to magically know his alignment ;p | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:17 marvellosity wrote: I agree with everything really, including your reservations about the vote numbers. would be kinda lovely just to magically know his alignment ;p Well which do you find to be more likely? Right now I'm leaning scum...the page number'd posts things seems too contrived to come from a townie. Like...I'm town and I've been saying for like 3 hours that I'm catching up, but I've felt no desire to label what page I'm on. What's the point? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
i think he's more likely to flip mafia. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
brb doing some filter diving. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:22 FirmTofu wrote: I'm back. All caught up. I'm starting to have reservations about my case on Zaragon :/ brb doing some filter diving. Firm, you claimed before you have "real reads" was it just Zaragon or was there other shit? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:23 marvellosity wrote: Firm, you claimed before you have "real reads" was it just Zaragon or was there other shit? There was other shit, but Zaragon was my top read. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:24 FirmTofu wrote: There was other shit, but Zaragon was my top read. could you just like, tell us about some of the other shit before you filter dive? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Merv I'm gonna say this because I feel obligated. You're agreeing with me more than I'd expect you to as town. As town I generally expect you to tell me that I'm wrong more than you have this game. isn't this the first time i've really agreed with you? shrug. doesn't matter to me either way. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
 P.S. i also disagreed with quite a bit of your list, so dunno where you're getting the whole agreeing thing from | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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