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Mocsta just won that micro mafia game as scum, you can judge his opponents yourself. He is not going to be catched as easily like jrkirby. But look at how he reacts when I say that jkirby his posting looks like scum.
On August 14 2013 18:42 Mocsta wrote:
koshi, that's so so Wong on so many levels.
why?
1. why does a list post with yam at the bottom prove me scum? lol, so town can't have town reads on scum? is this what you are saying? if so, we should have lynched oats if he was alive.
2.why is asking a question about HP, alignment indicative?
3. clarity already nailed my summary post and why your interpretation appears far fetched.
this is why ver caught you koshi. nothing to do with actions or questions, but rather motive and intent.
instead of trying to understand why someone is doing something, you are looking for non-kosher actions and trying to spin them as scummily as you can.
its why I read you as scum early game and quickly coming back to the same realisation.
Not fucking only does he says that jrkirby his posting is not scummy at all. He calls me scum (I was null before) for not seeing that kirby was obvious town.
On August 14 2013 20:34 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm..
we are in a tough predicament as there is an abundance of choice for the lynch me thinks.
Contenders
(1) Koshi: His points on me feel as forced as with Oats, however, for some reason he has really dialed up the tryhard factor.
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(2) Risen: 'Nuff said.
Awaiting More Info
(1) Solstice: Need this guy to respond
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(2) Chromatically: Everyone keeps saying he is town based on PMs... I want to hear him respond before giving that any credence.
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(3) Rayn: Like Koshi, is going out of his way to throw tarnish my reputation this game (sullied by my former, kirby)
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Xatalos, I might post the pms I had with Oberyn (paraphrased blah blah), where we discuss Iamp a bit later on. Hopefully that will settle any lingering doubt.
BAM. Koshi or Risen. Because jrkirby was obv town guys!
On August 14 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we are lynching Vivax today. Last I checjed. U r not lord. Chromatically >>> vivax
Ok this last quote is nitpicking. But where does Mocsta get the fucking authority to shush Rayn???? Mocsta isn't even fucking a Lord himself. LIKE WTF? Also read how Mocsta discribes rayn in his list, can you be more wishy-washy?
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On August 14 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:
Koshi, can you post a more concise line of reasoning for Mocsta being scum? I don't really see a logic for that behind your posts, it's more like you're antagonizing him.
Comments on Sharrant please.
I also want to add that Sharrant's roleblock claim should be treated as null. If he's scum he will know that it would look odd if a claimed cop doesn't get roleblocked.
1) Nope, I am not antagonizing him. jrkirby his posting was obvious scum and the fact that Mocsta is a firm believer that jrkirby his posting was town is actually the prove that Mocsta is scum.
2) Risen his case on Sharrant was already perfect. The way how Sharrant entered the thread after Acro revealed him is enough.
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On August 14 2013 22:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:On August 14 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:
Koshi, can you post a more concise line of reasoning for Mocsta being scum? I don't really see a logic for that behind your posts, it's more like you're antagonizing him.
Comments on Sharrant please.
I also want to add that Sharrant's roleblock claim should be treated as null. If he's scum he will know that it would look odd if a claimed cop doesn't get roleblocked. 1) Nope, I am not antagonizing him. jrkirby his posting was obvious scum and the fact that Mocsta is a firm believer that jrkirby his posting was town is actually the prove that Mocsta is scum. 2) Risen his case on Sharrant was already perfect. The way how Sharrant entered the thread after Acro revealed him is enough. If Mocsta is town he will obviously believe that his predecessor was town. Is he scum cause he thinks that his predecessor isn't scum? The fuck?
Is he town because he thinks his predecessor is town? The fuck?
So Mocsta spends a shitton of time reading this entire thread to analyse all the players.
1)He doesn't comment on jrkirby at all.
2)The latest post of Mocsta even suggest that he didn't even have read his predecessor his filter. He just read it for the first time and "doesn"t understand what the commotion is all about". Question back to you! If you replace into a game and you have read 130 pages, read all filters and spent a lot of time making a giant list with your current reads in the game. How big is the chance that you have read your predecessor his filter/posts as well? Mocsta reacted like shit on my accusations towards jkirby and is now lying to protect his ass. Seriously. It's obvious.
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On August 14 2013 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
Scum killed three people who were going to be lords Day 2. Oatsmaster very odd choice otherwise IMO, he didnt breadcrumb afaik and I don't think he was readable as blue. Also 3/3 too much to be coincidence.
at least 1 of those people (oats) were not going to be lords today cause we elected clarity.
It seems likely scum was finishing off the people they split KP onto night 1. Makes me think they did not know the hp check before choosing their KP. Killing lords a possible scum tactic to produce confusion among town, disrupt "town circle" of lord pms. Possible that kill on gumshoe really did come from town vig instead of mole giving scum the hp checks.
Oh wow. This is completely true. Otherwise iamp would be dead day 1. Good news, I didn't like Grack as scum tbh but evidence was against him.
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Xatalos is clear then as well. gutfeeling is gone.
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On August 14 2013 20:34 Sharrant wrote:
Good morning, everyone.
Like Johnny said, I'm not going to be active for a while. I should be phone posting in about 12 hours, and hopefully posting from my laptop in 14ish.
Running late now: Vivax, SnB, Koshi, JrKirby/Mocsta are all persons of interest to me right now. Koshi has the strongest case in my eyes for being SK. Vivax never openly expressed his thoughts on Yamato (If I'm recalling correctly), but did so in PMs, this is suspicious to me. SnB has been such a non-factor that I feel he has a good chance of being scum. And JrKirby would have been my choice if not for Mocsta's replacement. Without the replacement he would be my for sure choice for lynch today,
Actual analysis will come when I'm not late for important things.
How did Sharrant even get elected? House Tyrell is the worst. 1,5 page filter and afk for another 12 hours.
His latest persons of interests are
Vivax because he thought Yamato was scum in PMs.
Koshi because he is the SK.
SnB because he is a non-factor.
And then of course jrkirby but not mocsta."I think you are 99% scum, but I am going to let you stay alive so you can misdirect the thread for a while"
If today somebody else then Sharrant/Mocsta is getting lynched I am going to be really really sad.
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Risen is my best friend in the whole world.
afk now. Dinner.
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s0Lstice Baratheon Lord. Who are you voting?
It could help if all Lords would just pressure vote/real vote. Because I can't follow who we are lynching.
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SnB. Same question that I asked you a million times in Sicilian.
Who else than you? You always just defend yourself and don't do anything else. In Sicilian you were blaming Vivax his tunnel on you. This time you are going to use the fact that you and Yamato can't be on the same scumteam... You flipped scum in Sicilian and all my townreads are on your ass atm. If I would have a vote I would vote you in an instant.
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On August 15 2013 05:11 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:04 Koshi wrote:
SnB. Same question that I asked you a million times in Sicilian.
Who else than you? You always just defend yourself and don't do anything else. In Sicilian you were blaming Vivax his tunnel on you. This time you are going to use the fact that you and Yamato can't be on the same scumteam... You flipped scum in Sicilian and all my townreads are on your ass atm. If I would have a vote I would vote you in an instant. a townie's first duty is to not get lynched. defending yourself if you're going to get lynched is the most important thing. i want to kill risen as i have made abundantly clear. i'm not satisfied at all with either of their answers. I think risen's day 1 shows his scum mindset and he hasn't gotten much better since then, he's spent the whole rest of the game tunneling sharrant and now he's voting me because i thought he had one good point in his case on sharrant but i still think he's scum. i also still think vivax is probably scum but risen is still number one on my kill list atm.
And rayn? or not anymore? why?
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On August 13 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote:
A is true, B is false, C is false A is alone, but B asked C to be false.
I sent this to jrkirby, I didnt expect him to figure anything out, but wanted to be safe if oberyn lied to thread.
What is this?
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On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote:
Vivax
I liked his first post on Koshi a lot. As at the time I had a scum read on Koshi. Im stuck on Vivax. Since then, I don’t particularly like his posts HOWEVER, I do know for fact he has been very busy outside the game. Its more, Im not sure why he is posting. He seems to be trying to understand the target more; but is not there to follow up. So it becomes pointless, as he does not call them scum either. Again, I want to see more from Vivax regarding iamperfection Day3. Null
Grackaroni
Tough one.. Some things he has done are just so ridiculous you would think only a townie would be so careless. I cant help buy feel this guy is lynchbait, but cant peg why. Prob the whole ‘too scum to be scum’ which he tried to sell when giving his meta. Seemed plausible. Null. I would like to have a better understanding why iamperfection dropped this whole blacksheep earlyu-game stuff on Grack. I cant remember if the reasoning was well detailed.
Raynpelikoneet
Has been bugging me all game. Yet several have a strong town read on him. Some due to PMs which I don’t have access to. Im conflicted. Early game is terrible I think; Mid Day2, is relatively pro-town which balances out. Im not experienced with Rayn, but in Sicilian I felt he was town instantly, and not just because of the pardoner claim. Im not getting that vibe at all; early game he was displayed a lot of “forced aggression” and nitpicking. I think he is scum; but would pick him off last and he is the one I am the least confident about.
Koshi
Had a scum read on him early game. Especially as he maintained his tunnel on oats, which just read as forced points. Long absence; followed by a resurgence in posting late Day2. I actualy don’t mind his recent posting. Willing to give him a chance. Again, I want his opinion on people like chromatically/iamperfection. Null to leaning scum.
Strongandbig
I don’t get the early plan role thing. But whatevers. Hard guy to read cos of low give a crap factor. I think hes town personally. Cant really pinpoint why though. Overall; I just don’t feel hes been pushing anything… hence town.
On August 15 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Ok. Skimmed all filters and was left with a couple that stuck out to me
Snb
Grackeroni
Koshi
Vivax
Rayn I'm back to 50/50. I think my issue with him is we are treating the same tells 100% opposite. But he's standing up for his belief, as am I. That's indicative of town. So will give him a beeather.
Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter.
I fully endorse a vivax lynch this cycle.
Koshi still sticks out to me. The really poor logic throughout the game. Not wanting to run for lord and then changing mind when an opportunity came through. He has also shown an inflexible mindset. I'm happy with his lynch too.
Grackeroni. I can't pinpoint it off my first skim but.. he's blending it. He shows enough understanding of the thread so is keeping up. But I don't like the moments he chooses to come into the thread. He's not really driving anything so the contributions I feel are fake. Plus u have the whole gumshoe 1hp leak thing. He made a defense of it which was handled well I admit. But too slick compared to his other posts. Smells very funny to me.
Snb.. shoulda realised this earlier. But a town snb always pushes oats as a lynch. Didn't get that this game.. I need to do another read on him too but I don't think yamato pushed him that hard. U could argue he pushed snb as hard as he pushed acro.
In short. My preferred lynch this cycle is vivax.
I can live with snb though.
What happened that all your nullreads became scum?
Your Chrom scumread and Risen scumread went poof into smoke?
You had a townread on SnB but now you are ok with his lynch because he didn't push Oats?
Why do you keep defending all your "lynchbaits" with the argument "they are lynchbaits".
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On August 15 2013 22:30 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi. stop being a moron. The answers are in my filter.
e.g. chromatically was explained in the post i made making a case on rayn.
Mocsta is confirmed scum.
Where did you lose the Risen read?
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On August 15 2013 22:41 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 22:40 Koshi wrote:On August 15 2013 22:30 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi. stop being a moron. The answers are in my filter.
e.g. chromatically was explained in the post i made making a case on rayn. Mocsta is confirmed scum. Where did you lose the Risen read? How come?
Because he is just ad hominem attacking me. Am I not allowed to question him? What was wrong about my question? Where did his Risen read go? Chroma was certain scum in his first post, but because people say he was active in PMs he leaves it alone. How does that happen? Did he verify those people? ...
Mocsta came in this thread with clear goals, not as somebody that didn't read the thread and was going to take advice from anybody. Look at how he describes his read on Vivax.
"I liked Vivax his first post about Koshi". [bEverybody[/b] read Vivax his filter and tell me about what he is talking about? Vivax his post helping me to make a better case around Oats? That's Vivax for you, he helps me around since Sicilian. But what is there to like??? And why does Mocsta ignore Vivax his real first post & case vs Johnnywup?
Mocsta has come into this game to get me lynched. It's pathetic and obvious.
Do you see how Mocsta never answers to my questions? Or answers them and says jrkirby totes town guis. While that is bullshit. Or that he didn't read jrkirby his filter. Or his posts while rereading the thread. BULLSHIT.
Mocsta confirmed scum for me. Till the end of this game.
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Onegu tunneling me since Day 1 also never gets old. "omg you asked SnB about other scumtargets" MUST BE SCUM!
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On August 15 2013 22:43 Mocsta wrote:
Dont u love how Koshi and Rayn like to attack ppl in tandem? Quite the coordinated effort gents.
When Kush kept talking to Sharrant about "fags".. musta been addressing you two.
Kush, could you tell me who you were referring to?
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On August 15 2013 22:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 22:46 Xatalos wrote:On August 15 2013 22:43 Mocsta wrote:
Dont u love how Koshi and Rayn like to attack ppl in tandem? Quite the coordinated effort gents.
When Kush kept talking to Sharrant about "fags".. musta been addressing you two. A really good idea to start insulting when several people want you lynched even today. Xat, ppl want me lynched every game; im not going to start crying about it. If you had a read on me, whether town or scum.. and are willing to discard that read based on the post above... then i can add you that the 3/4 list of ppl i dont want to end game with. The fact is, Koshi has come in, slandered me with no substance. and has now proceeded to disappear.Why is this smear campaign acceptable behaviour from a townie? [Thats a real question for you]
1) I asked about the change in your reads. I didn't slander at all in that post.
2) I never disappeared.
While you called me a moron and fag for no reason, except for me trying to scumhunt on you. So sad.
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On August 15 2013 17:00 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:04 Koshi wrote:
SnB. Same question that I asked you a million times in Sicilian.
Who else than you? You always just defend yourself and don't do anything else. In Sicilian you were blaming Vivax his tunnel on you. This time you are going to use the fact that you and Yamato can't be on the same scumteam... You flipped scum in Sicilian and all my townreads are on your ass atm. If I would have a vote I would vote you in an instant. Ok so how is the post not uber scummy and no one calls him out on it. He gives no reads, adds nothing new to the arguement, but happy with the lynch because his townreads are voteing SnB? I am going to look at his NWM filter now as he was scum that game, but for now Imstick with my stance that he is scum.
1) I FUCKING ADDED THAT HE PLAYS EXACTLY LIKE IN SICILIAN. SNB DOES NOT SAY THIS IS A LIE BUT GIVES HIS READS.
2) I NEVER HAD A SCUMREAD ON SNB. BUT I HAVE NO VOTING POWER SO I CAN ONLY TRY TO INTERACT WITH HIM AND PICK HIS MIND.
3) HOW AM I HAPPY WITH HIS LYNCH? I GOT SOME TOWNREADS (Clarity, Xatalos, forgot who else was on him) AND THEY WANTED TO LYNCH SNB. SHOULD I START DOUBTING MY TOWNREADS OR BELIEVE THEIR JUDGEMENT?
I don't have a scumread on Onegu but seems like Mocsta tainted his mind during the night and empowered Onegu his tunnel on me. But w.e.
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On August 15 2013 23:20 Mocsta wrote:
As for Risen, I explained already to Xatalos, hes consistently crazy. Its pretty hard to fake that as scum. Im willing to downgrade him as low priority and focus on better percentage scummers such as Vivax and yourself.
Where? I read over it or something but I don't see it.
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On August 15 2013 23:24 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, I'd like Sharrant to explain in the thread why he has a town read on johnnywup and especially why he doesn't want to kill Kush. He hasn't answered my PM for a long time, but thinking about it more, it would be better to share his thoughts in thread.
I want to hear why I am the SK.
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