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On August 12 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: What´s the point of telling a list of names when i am pretty sure yamato is scum? I don't care that you didn't give a list of names, you could have just said "my other scumreads don't matter right now because yamato". You saying "all my scumreads claimed blue" implies that they are no longer your scumreads. | ||
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On August 12 2013 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote: I mean rayn, you must have other scumreads too right? If you think yamato is town, then you would want to kill someone else. On August 12 2013 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don´t think yamato is town, and all my scumreads basically claimed blue.. Oats asks who else you want to kill, and you reply that your scumreads claimed blue. Implying that they are no longer your scumreads. Correct? | ||
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On August 12 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: ehh.. Oats sais "if you think yamato is town, you must want to kill someone else". I replied "i do not think yamato is town, i don´t want to kill the blue claims right now". Correct? On August 12 2013 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you are right that Oberyn is really likely town, so is Sharrant. Onegu is aswell, to some extent. What are you trying to say? Hmm, okay. I was wondering why you said that you didn't believe the claims when it sounded like you did. What caused your read on Onegu to change? | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote: Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play. yeah I have a sneaking suspicion about yamato | ||
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On August 12 2013 04:03 Koshi wrote: With only Gumshoe dieing we can safely assume that scum tried to kill Xatalos right? Well, it is not 100% certain but chances are high. So most likely both visitors wanted to safe Xatalos instead of killing him? But that is just theorycrafting. Why would scum shooting Xat mean that the second visitor was trying to protect him? | ||
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On August 12 2013 07:29 Ace wrote: Did chromatically know about yamato being checked when he told you he would likely be lynched the next day? I did not. He wasn't doing anything and he was under pressure for it, so I assumed he would either a) shape up and not be a good shot anyway or b) not shape up and be scum. Also: On August 12 2013 05:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Also, chromatticaly has been posting consistently this game, so why don't I remember anything about him. Just read his filter and while glancing it looks townie, if I go through his filter and note all the reads he has the list is rather short. If there's anything in particular you'd like to know, you can just ask. I don't want to just give out reads for no reason when we're not lynching them. | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:35 Clarity_nl wrote: I disagree. Me and xata came to the conclusion that unless the jailkeeper claim came from someone already thought to be town, we would end up lynching him. The way oberyn refused to give the 2nd name made it plausible for it to be a fakeclaim. I'd take the gamble as scum. Anyway, if we go with your conclusion, then our lynchpool tomorrow would look like this: snb vivax onegu oberyn + whoever didn't post between the fakeclaim and the confession of said fakeclaim (surely its more people than just snb and vivax?) That said, vivax spent a lot of time with me in pms n1 trying to convince me yamato is scum, so I think he's town. Oberyn, if scum, has played an amazing scumgame. Look at my interaction with him d1. So I think he's town That leaves onegu and snb, and I'm okay with that at this point, even if we came to the list with a conclusion I disagree with. Refreshing before I post: jkirby and koshi didn't post in that window according to onegu. I don't really like a koshi lynch but jkirby is definitely and option too. I think it's unlikely that scum wouldn't claim. Oberyn not revealing both names made perfect sense from the watcher standpoint, and there would be ways to make a JK claim believable, especially with the free day that lynching yamato gives. Which means that there's probably scum in that group, and it's probably Onegu. Since no one's brought it up yet, let's talk about what Onegu did around the FT lynch: On August 10 2013 12:25 Onegu wrote: Ok caught up, my thoughts on Firmtofu. Out of my seven games I have played 5 with tofu and he was town in all of them, never once has he asked about others thoughts before giving his own that was the first thing, also he is normally more active than this. His responses to cases against him arent that strong either. Second reign case on me, SnB asked me my thoughts on S0L and FT and there wasnt much to go on so I said we need more info, I wasnt just posting random shit. Also again I am disabled and have a disabled child so sometimes I will be very active as I have nothing else to do, but others I will be at a hospital or on medicine and not post much. Koshi looks scummy to me also, I will filter dive him now and bring up the points I found. Also I was the main reason oberyn was elected, I thought he was Prome smurf so I straight up told him I would vote him, I also told jrkirby this. I later found out he isnt prome, but I had many discussions with him before voteing and found him the best choice. Do we know when a house has used thier HP check? Or if I become lord can I find out if we still have it. Thinking about this maybe we shouldnt elect the same lord because if they are scum and use the HP check and we continue to elect them lord we will never find out if they used it or still have it. I also like the split lord kp on 2 targets. Onegu comes back to the thread and softly encourages the FT wagon without actually calling FT scum. He's not associating himself by supporting the mislynch, but he doesn't want to actually derail it. On August 10 2013 13:06 Onegu wrote: Why write this? What makes them all scum and why call out oats about haveing town reads on people. So you agree we shouldnt share townreads, but you just got finished calling out oats for not giving his townreads? The only question I have is why not just say ok chrome can be lord, why put your name up after saying you didnt want to be lord? If they havent given you a good reason why give up on it? That just doesnt make much sense. But you didnt push him that hard, and give me more reasons than they are completely useless. Then he goes through Koshi's filter and quotes every post he can paint as scummy, even though most of these aren't actually scummy at all. Keep in mind that Koshi was a pretty easy target at the time. There were quite a few reasons that had already been stated by others to want to lynch Koshi, so why put in so much effort to make an original "contribution" that's far weaker than the other points previously stated? Onegu makes NO effort at all to push his Koshi case, despite Koshi being his top scumread. He also makes no effort towards derailing the FT lynch. He shows far more interest in night shots than he does in the lynch. So Onegu: a) refused to take a stance on FT b) put in extra effort to write an original case on Koshi, even though his reasons were mostly not alignment-indicative c) didn't push his case on Koshi at all and showed complete apathy toward the lynch | ||
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On August 12 2013 23:29 Oberyn wrote: jrkirby told me that he was concerned about the FT lynch and expressed interest in a yamato lynch, refering to him as the scummiest player in the thread. I think this is particularly interesting, especially given that he said this: On August 10 2013 09:42 jrkirby wrote: I just checked tofu's filter. Yeah, that guys is always way more active than this. That's not guaranteed scum, but it certainly is a sign. and he made no effort to move the lynch in-thread. On August 10 2013 06:49 jrkirby wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, finally caught up again. This thread grew 15 pages while I was reading 10. People I want lynched/shot: 1) s0lstice. He claimed he didn't want to elect DI even though he thought that could easily determine if DI was scum. Enough reason to lynch right here. 2) sharant. I've heard he has a bunch of PM's but I haven't seen them. When he get into the thread he just starts defending Kush out of nowhere. None of it seems that useful and the evidence is largely meta. Kush hasn't been getting that much pressure anyway, so why does he need to defend like this? 3) oatsmaster. He posted a bunch of useless arguing with yamato at the beginning, which would be good if he had started making scumcases by now, but he's mostly given out townreads with the occasional we should lynch X with no real case. 4) Yamato. He is clearly the scummiest guy in our house. He didn't PM me until nearly the end of N0 for me to realize I got his real username wrong, and also was asking oberyn and onegu to vote for him. His arguments with oats just served to lengthen the thread without any real substance, and he hasn't posted any scumreads with substance. There's also this list of 3 likely townies with yamato on the bottom, for association. | ||
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On August 13 2013 02:12 Risen wrote: There's really no elaboration. I just feel like his posting indicates that he knows too much. And he was your #1 scumread because of this? But you can't provide any examples? | ||
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On August 13 2013 03:30 Koshi wrote: Do you think there is a mole in the Lannister House? If so is it JrKirby, iamp, or Grack? If there was one, it would be Grack (just by process of elimination), but he's not a priority right now. | ||
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On August 13 2013 03:51 Koshi wrote: Ah yeah. Sorry... Was trying to trap Chrom but that didn't work out well lol...... What was the trap? | ||
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On August 12 2013 18:40 Dandel Ion wrote: Agreed. That's actually why I told chrom to shoot the scum slot last night, so that this could be avoided. At that time I didn't know there was a list On which the hyperlurker wasn't even on. For no discernable reason. I blame the maker of the list. Dandel can you explain why you thought/think Nacho was scum and should be shot above the other semi-lurkers? | ||
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Acro hints at a plan that uses the HP check D1 to rayn rayn doesn't want to use the HP check D1 and says so in-thread rayn says that he won't support the plan unless he knows what it is So how does rayn come out scummy from this? On August 13 2013 06:23 Grackaroni wrote: @Acro, I will say in Rayne's defense that he seemed to be genuinely rereading red team's prize to try to improve his read on me and even though he didn't conclude anything from it, it seems rather unnecessary for him to do as scum. Do you think rayn is scum or town? Did you find Acro's case convincing? | ||
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On August 13 2013 10:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never said i am gonna support the plan. I said I will re-evaluate my stance if i hear what the plan is!!! Why the fuck is everyone trying to cast shit on me because of this? Yes. I'm agreeing with you. | ||
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On August 13 2013 10:17 Chromatically wrote: I don't see what the deal is with the Acro/Rayn HP plan thing. Acro hints at a plan that uses the HP check D1 to rayn rayn doesn't want to use the HP check D1 and says so in-thread rayn says that he won't support the plan unless he knows what it is So how does rayn come out scummy from this? Acro can you explain this? | ||
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On August 13 2013 12:50 Acrofales wrote: I have, about a million times. I see no reason to keep posting about this. Tell me what exactly you don't understand about it. Rayn clearly wasn't talking about changing his opinion about the plan. He was talking about changing his opinion about me. I never needed, nor wanted, Rayn's support for the plan, so couldn't give half a fuck whether he would reconsider the plan, and that was definitely not what the conversation was about. He said he would reconsider his stance on me in exchange for information about the plan. My understanding is that rayn disagreed with your idea to use the HP check N1, and called it "anti-town". This is the sentiment that he said he would reconsider if he got more information. Correct? | ||
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