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 It's the first thing we vote for, remember? | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:16 Grackaroni wrote: Iamperfection I am null on. We've talked to each other less than I have talked to anyone else and probably less than he has talked to anybody else as well. He believes that I have been apathetic towards the game but quite frankly I think I've been putting in plenty of effort. I voted him in the early phase of the game because he said he wanted to use the lord's pm's to pressure people for reads. Afterwards I tried to tell Xata and Gumshoe that I was less confident in him and would rather elect somebody else but it was clear that neither was interested in switching. I wonder. You shared your decreasing confidence in iamperfection, but you never considered switching off him with me. Or did you talk about that with gumshoe? | ||
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I'm still leaning on just revealing. If 20% of us are scum, there are at least 5 or probably 6 scum. That means one scum in about every House, maybe not including one or two at most. I think two is stretching it. But more than the math being in favor of revealing (probably scum already know every House anyway) I just see little sense in town hiding information from each other while scum keep their information advantage. The sooner we start to remove that advantage, the better. For example, I'd like to know who is the most scummy player in every House (logically the Lord would be the most townish). There should be some, maybe even important, clues already with all these PMs during N0. Remember that scum would most likely already know what's going on in (at least almost) each House. It just slows us down to ignore PMs and focus only on the thread. | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:36 Onegu wrote: Anyone else see a black sheep in the lords? What does this mean? | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:48 Grackaroni wrote: Obviously I thought about it but you made it clear to me that you weren't feeling like switching right before you went to bed and Gumshoe told me he was confident in him vote as well. I'm not going to deny our house a lord because I was null on him. That wording seemed odd... But I can accept that. Since you're our "black sheep", I suggest you try showing how townish you can be. I'd be sad to see that our town isn't clean. | ||
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On August 08 2013 18:06 Onegu wrote: One is a smurf the rest are vets except one. Your point is....? | ||
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On August 08 2013 18:15 Onegu wrote: He seems like he was made a scapegoat, just seems odd that someone just out of newbies is a house lord. If anything, I think it's more suspicious for a veteran player to be a Lord than for a newbie. Scum veterans kind of have to aim for the Lord status or gather suspicion... But what newbie scum would aim for Lord right away? It would be so much easier to stay out of the most heated action. | ||
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On August 08 2013 18:56 Onegu wrote: No I doubt he is scum, I think he is a scapegoat. Thats why I want his house list. Okay... It's equally possible that there just are no veterans in a House at all. In fact, why would a veteran scum give up the easily claimable power to someone less experienced/known? This is all just WIFOM though -.- | ||
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On August 08 2013 19:41 Koshi wrote: Basically it went down in our house like this. S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice. Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma. As for scumreads: DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum. Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Oh Dandel Ion... Are you scum again? What's your take on this post? | ||
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On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote: Are you town this game? I haven't seen you shit up the thread yet. Dear friends (and Martells), As the Lord of Highgarden I ask you to please stop the senseless bickering. We have Blackfyre sympathists amongst us and nothing you have said so far has helped me decide who is friendly with the rebel scum. I have come to King's Landing to end their cause. The most interesting information anyone has brought has come from House Baratheon. I would like to hear more about their internal politics, in order to determine whether Blackfyres have infiltrated them. I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Within my own house there was no strife either, but the voting process was short and did not give much alignment indicative information. I feel this open forum is a better place for uncovering Blackfyre sympathists than in the private confines of Highgarden. Yours sincerely, Acrofales Tyrell This is such a generic and wishy-washy opening post -.- I hope you're not scum with gumshoe. Why not include me as well? As for causing havoc and destruction, you can ask my fellow House members. Some of them have already felt my wrath. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote: koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. Hmm. You do have a point that scum DI might not participate very actively in the election. Still, I'd want to see the PM's and/or DI's thread contributions before judging. Hard to say with second-hand knowledge. I'd also rather not judge Koshi based on DI before I can have a decent read on DI myself. That statement really is weird, especially the later part (how you got elected and prevent others from giving information about you - what?). Although essentially I agree that it's stupid to hide the House members. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:20 Acrofales wrote: I will ask your Lord. For now: do you think gumshoe is scum? If so, why? Is he the black sheep in your family? Please elaborate. Elsewise this post is just you throwing suspicions around for no sensible reason. You could start by reading the thread or at least my earlier posts...... But anyways, if you didn't get it, that part about gumshoe was just a joke related to the previous GOT Mafia. The part about your opening post being wishy-washy and generic wasn't, though. | ||
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote: I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE] Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:40 Dandel Ion wrote: load of shit. What happened: As obviously the best town player in the house, as well as obviously town when town, it was clear I was the best lord from the start. chrom said he wanted to be lord, but seemed pretty rational about not being the best choice since he's 1) average 2) a lurker but solstice on the other hand started acting up, and tried to strongarm his way to being lord by every means possible, even lying and misrepresenting my townplay to make himself look better (lol). Never even considering another lord but himself, even though he had stated HIMSELF that I was probably town and he'd elect me if he couldn't be eleced. And I decided he indeed couldn't be elected. Then he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. So Koshi, that guy said he didn't want to be lord at the start. ok weird but w/e. The he said he'd vote sol over me. So I slammed him with my spears of logic of why I'm best lord and he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. He then also decided to want to be lord for no reason at all. That was the tipping point from which on it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE to get anything out of him. every response then was needlessly passive/agressive, choke-full with either bad logic, or no logic at all, things like that. So basically he claimed scum. So I couldn't elect koshi cuz he was being a scummy bitch I couldn't elect sol cuz he was being a bitch I couldn't elect myself cuz koshi and sol were running around like emotional teenage girls. So I had to elect the lurker that's prolly not even going to use the PM ability cuz afk, just so we get one at all. My house is full of scum and baddies. I want to switch houses. LOL. Well, this post from you is definitely more than I got out of you in all your posts *combined* when you were scum last time. So I'm pretty sure you're town and telling the truth. Chrom seems pretty null from that. Both s0Lstice and Koshi look scummy. I'm more concerned about s0Lstice than Koshi, since Koshi is new (although he fooled me well last game) and s0Lstice should be able to see that you're a good choice for Lord - at least better than Chrom or Koshi (or probably himself, even if he was town). | ||
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