It says in the OP that scum are distrubited randomly. And how is knowing who is in what house pro town. If you have a strong read on someone through PMs that is one thing to post they are from your own house. Another to just give out members of your house with zero reads on them.

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 08 2013 07:00 GMT

#482

On August 08 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, can you give even 1 proper reason why knowing the composition of everyone's house today will help us lynch scum?
Info is an extremely vague answer.

Not only is the information of who is in what house GENERALLY USEFUL when attempting to figure out what is going on in this setup, it also gives invaluable information about people's reads and who voted who for lord.

Compared to

"WELL MY HOUSE IS ALL TOWN BECAUSE THEY SEEMED TOWN IN N0 PMS AND MAYBE KEEPING THEM ALL SECRET PROTECTS US AGAINST SOME REMOTE POSSIBILITY OF SCUM KILLING US ALL OFF AND WINNING"

It seems pretty good.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 08 2013 07:01 GMT

#483

so no reasons. COOL.
Whos scum yamato?

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

August 08 2013 07:01 GMT

#484

How is in anyway what you did protown? You have zero reads because you havent PMd much you just gave info that is more valueable for scum than town out.

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 08 2013 07:01 GMT

#485

On August 08 2013 16:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
so no reasons. COOL.
Whos scum yamato?

OATSMASTER™

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

August 08 2013 07:01 GMT

#486

I don't think that we need to worry about scum wiping out houses. Easier just to kill off town lords in houses where they can slip in scum lords and take control of day kills which now definitely hits town. Rather than spend 4 KP killing 4 players in a house to remove 1 day kill that COULD hit scum...

I think we might as well just reveal at this point. (and hope no 3p Stark slaughters my house for vengeance lol)

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 08 2013 07:02 GMT

#487

On August 08 2013 16:01 Onegu wrote:
How is in anyway what you did protown? You have zero reads because you havent PMd much you just gave info that is more valueable for scum than town out.

Scum start with more information than town, IN ANY GAME. The play for town is never to deny themselves information. I stand by my decision.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

August 08 2013 07:03 GMT

#488

On August 08 2013 16:00 yamato77 wrote:

Show nested quote +

how is it generally useful? People know you, etc are in house Martell now. How's that helpful in any way? We know that you PM each other? WHO CARES? The point is that if you find someone in your house that you think is scummy, you call them out on it. Revealing your house members does nothing to further Towns agenda.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 08 2013 07:04 GMT

#489

The reason why yamato's reason is not a reason is because he never said how it helps us lynch scum day 1.
Also, he never expanded how it helps us figure out what is going on in this setup, or how knowing who voted for who for lord helps town.

Actually, it doesnt help town, knowing votes for lord.
Why? Cause scum can just say they voted the current lord. Duh.

So therefore, yamato has no good reasons for disclosing your housemates. Dont do it day 1.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

August 08 2013 07:04 GMT

#490

Also with 24 players this thread is going to be a nightmare to read if we don't stop arguing with one another over and over with the same accusations. (looking at you Yamato/Oats)

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 08 2013 07:05 GMT

#491

This sentiment is so anti-town it has to be scum motivated.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 08 2013 07:08 GMT

#492

On August 08 2013 16:05 yamato77 wrote:
This sentiment is so anti-town it has to be scum motivated.

postgame.

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 08 2013 07:10 GMT

#493

Since we're playing a hypothetical game of mafia, let's consider the very real possibility that scum have already figured out who is in what house.

What use is hiding now?

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

August 08 2013 07:15 GMT

#494

Actually, since Scum is randomly distributed it's likely that they do already know who's in every house. There's 24 players so around 5 people are mafia. It's likely that there's one in each house except maybe one or two. Which means they do probably know who's in what house. I feel like an idiot.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 08 2013 07:15 GMT

#495

On August 08 2013 16:10 yamato77 wrote:
Since we're playing a hypothetical game of mafia, let's consider the very real possibility that scum have already figured out who is in what house.

What use is hiding now?

so you change your tune from 'helping town' to it doesnt help scum right guys!!

its distraction yamato.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

August 08 2013 07:23 GMT

#496

On August 08 2013 16:15 johnnywup wrote:
Actually, since Scum is randomly distributed it's likely that they do already know who's in every house. There's 24 players so around 5 people are mafia. It's likely that there's one in each house except maybe one or two. Which means they do probably know who's in what house. I feel like an idiot.

If two houses then there are 8 people they dont know what house they are in giving them that info is stupid as it is much more valuable for them then giving it to town with zero reads to use with it.

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 08 2013 07:27 GMT

#497

On August 08 2013 16:23 Onegu wrote:

Show nested quote +

If two houses then there are 8 people they dont know what house they are in giving them that info is stupid as it is much more valuable for them then giving it to town with zero reads to use with it.

I'd do the math but I already know it's on my side.