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Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 18:03 GMT

#4099

There is no punishment to town for Mocsta's actions?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 18:06 GMT

#4103

We also only have 4 KP at the moment... There's a small chance that johnnywup lives. Especially if some of the Lords don't shoot him. I guess we have 2+ town Lords at the minimum though, considering that the game hasn't yet ended in scum victory.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 18:07 GMT

#4104

On August 18 2013 03:04 Onegu wrote:

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On August 18 2013 03:02 s0Lstice wrote:

On August 18 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:

On August 18 2013 02:52 s0Lstice wrote:

On August 17 2013 14:07 Acrofales wrote:

On August 17 2013 14:06 s0Lstice wrote:

On August 17 2013 14:05 Acrofales wrote:

On August 17 2013 14:01 Mocsta wrote:
Hhmmm why did xatalos relinquish?

That is far from the most interesting question. WTF happened in Winterfell? SnB scum and some kinda coupe?

what do you mean?

We'll know soon enough. If Rayn, Mocsta and Grack instavote for someone, we're fucked.

On August 17 2013 14:15 Acrofales wrote:

On August 17 2013 14:10 s0Lstice wrote:
we aren't at mylo are we?

because that is not a concern otherwise.

Closed setup, so good luck defining whether we're at lylo or not.

House Stark not having a leader seems like a scumplay. The lack of deaths seems like IF it was a power grab it only half-succeeded at best. I'm gonna park my vote. Plurality lynch, so better be paranoid as hell.

##vote Strongandbig

Ok. These two quotes came before the ones I presented to you. So your thought process at the time of these quotes is that Sharrant is town and the check is valid and scum must be making a big play. Within that idea of a big play is that Mocsta, SnB, and Grack/Rayn are scum. How does this quote exist at the time that it happened then?

On August 17 2013 14:45 Acrofales wrote:
Also, I think I'm wrong on Rayn. Mocsta was incriminating him in PM and telling me to push his lynch while calling SnB town.

This game is too easy. Scum surrender pl0x?

You can't be thinking that scum is making a big play (which requires a scum Rayn) and also thinking that Sharrant is town-->has a valid check-->Mocsta is scum-->Rayn is innocent because of attacks by Mocsta. Like these two thoughts cannot exist at the same time.

Well, for starters, I received the PM from Mocsta in which he pushed Rayn hard AFTER the first post.

Secondly, the red check happened, and it's very different to have suspicions on Mocsta and have a credible red check on Mocsta.

ahh k this makes sense

just as an aside, not at all related to our alignments, do you think this game should be declared a draw?

Yes most likely draw, but I really enjoyed this game.

Why a draw? That would be very..... anti-climatic, to say the least. At most some sort of punishment for town IMO.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 18:09 GMT

#4107

On August 18 2013 03:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
don't think it'd straight up end either way as long as it's not lylo

Or MYLO. Also consider the Lord KPs...

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 18:39 GMT

#4131

Lol so there was a framer who happened to frame Mocsta.....? Or DI is scum. But framer seems much more likely (although even that is unlikely).

How is Acro confirmed scum though DI?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 18:49 GMT

#4137

Well, at least it's certain that DI and Sharrant are both town or both scum. Both town is many times more probable.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:08 GMT

#4158

On August 18 2013 04:52 strongandbig wrote:

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that just looks like a medieval triptych.
When i google image search "risen logic" this is the third result (honestly). humorously, the link goes to the previous game of thrones mafia game.

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LOLOL that picture :D I still remember that one. It was epic. Risen never disappoints (for amusement purposes).

I believe that... Risen and Onegu shot johnnywup? Probably? That means he still has 3-7 HP, I guess. But wouldn't the best course of action be to shoot him tonight, and if he still lives, finish him tomorrow? He should have like 1-3 HP at most by then... Even if there are several scum Lords, he would still die.

Of course the problem is that he's the only generally agreed scum at the moment. So there's the risk of mislynching, johnnywup not dying yet, and scum taking control in the Houses after 2-4 townies die simultaneously.

So it comes down to this...

Plan A
Lynch johnnywup
Shoot ???

Plan B
Lynch ???
Shoot johnnywup

But the more I think about it, the better plan B feels...
1) johnnywup is already damaged and thus the most logical KP target
2) johnnywup is the only player whom everyone would agree to shoot (except maybe Sharrant? dunno)
3) It's impossible to pressure him with the lynch (he'd probably just lurk until his death).
4) It would be more useful to lynch someone else (snb/Risen) to determine alignments, especially of the Lords, with how the voting goes.

Disagreements?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:10 GMT

#4161

On August 18 2013 05:09 johnnywup wrote:
Xatalos why is your every other post about shooting or lynching me?

Maybe you should look in the mirror to figure out the reason?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:12 GMT

#4162

On August 18 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
the difference between shooting johnny and somebody at full hp is rather minor.

Well, it's not that big, I guess. Who should we shoot instead of johnnywup though?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:21 GMT

#4169

On August 18 2013 05:15 Risen wrote:
Seems useless not to say anything so I shot rayn lol

LOL ok....... Why? You promised to shoot johnnywup?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:23 GMT

#4170

On August 18 2013 05:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
shoot rayn then

whatever
not like it has anything to do with me

Seriously. Mocsta and Ace cheated against the spirit of the game, and so did gumshoe and Kush by forcing town to KP them. Why should you stop playing because of any of that?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:38 GMT

#4172

On August 18 2013 05:26 johnnywup wrote:
How did gumshoe and kush force town to shoot them? Is that what you're going to say about me after I flip?

And good, I want rayn dead.

What's your reasoning for rayn being scum?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 20:41 GMT

#4174

Intentionally lurking and trolling = forcing to get rid of the player. If not, the meta starts favoring scum too heavily. They can hide so much more easily if you can do whatever you want and get away with it. Actually actively anti-town players are more often town than scum but on the bigger picture, it's very bad to let them live.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 21:00 GMT

#4179

On August 18 2013 05:44 johnnywup wrote:

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never said i thought he was scum i said i wanted him dead. he's been an asshole to me and others and is disrupting town. at this point i don't care what he flips -.-

W
T
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Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 21:02 GMT

#4184

I miss being a Lord. It feels so powerless and stupid without that status.

And Grackaroni, where have you been all this time?

Has he even PM'd people?

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 21:10 GMT

#4189

On August 18 2013 06:05 Dandel Ion wrote:

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no

didn't somebody say he's gonna sick PM people and totes confirm himself town?

not happening so far, cuz

This makes me sad

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 21:11 GMT

#4190

On August 18 2013 06:01 Risen wrote:
I couldn't be a useful Lord this cycle and had to choose whether I should have no Lord or rayn Lord. Rayn Lord with a shot seemed a good compromise

What is this I don't even

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

August 17 2013 21:13 GMT

#4191

Ugh it feels like this game downgraded from awesome to beyond stupid. Probably losing the Lord status has a lot to do with it too, though :/ And no doubt Risen and Mocsta aren't helping.