Lol. You failed at logic there. Your simple answer is "I'm scum", but because I am actually town, I can clearly not know I'm scum, because I'm not. Herpaderpa.

no, there's a simple answer if you were town too.

if you are town, it shouldn't be hard to determine it, aye?

Risen

United States7927 Posts

August 17 2013 19:23 GMT

#4142

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

August 17 2013 19:24 GMT

#4143

Ugh, my head hurts. What just happened.

sharrant got hit last night
I got hit last night

I wish I had my hp check.

I don't believe acro being full hp makes him scum on its own.
I definitely believe sharrant being low makes him town.
I don't believe me being low hp makes snb scum

On August 18 2013 03:33 Acrofales wrote:

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Because I need more of that, when I am about the least likely person in the game to get lynched.

This is simply incorrect.

Keeping it simple... The most likely targets last night were sharrant xata and myself. Odds are the three of us are damaged and will die tonight.

Scum is somewhere in this list:
johnny
grack
chrom
snb
acro/onegu
...koshi I guess?

I'd lynch/kp top to bottom right now if I could.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

August 17 2013 19:26 GMT

#4144

I also don't believe that DI is lying about his check, I believe the possibility of acro lying is there. He could be scum, knowing that they've shot me and just checked someone else for scum's use.
For now though, I'm just gonna stick with my reads rather than just throw everything out because of a couple of hp checks.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

August 17 2013 19:36 GMT

#4145

So we're just going to believe DI's house check and take it as gospel or did I miss the part where another house confirmed.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 17 2013 19:44 GMT

#4146

On August 18 2013 04:36 Risen wrote:
So we're just going to believe DI's house check and take it as gospel or did I miss the part where another house confirmed.

Why would DI lie?

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

August 17 2013 19:45 GMT

#4147

On August 18 2013 04:44 Koshi wrote:

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Why would DI lie?

if he's scum

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 17 2013 19:47 GMT

#4148

to answer this question, because I couldn't find a coherent argument in it's favor, I've googled "risen logic" and extracted the visual representation of it.

[image loading]

I am unsure what this means.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

August 17 2013 19:49 GMT

#4149

put it this way, if sharrant doesn't die tonight then there's even stronger reason to lynch him tomorrow. But if he is telling the truth and mocsta was framed (I guess this is the scenario we're looking at if DI is telling the truth?) then we can lord kp or lynch him tomorrow. For now, we should be looking elsewhere.

Are we fairly certain we can kill johnnywup tonight? Sharrant afaik never answered me or explained his townread at all. If we aren't fairly certain we can kill him tonight with lord kp, then we should be lynching him.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 17 2013 19:52 GMT

#4150

oh we 100% can't kill johnny

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 17 2013 19:52 GMT

#4151

too much hp

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

August 17 2013 19:52 GMT

#4152

On August 18 2013 04:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
to answer this question, because I couldn't find a coherent argument in it's favor, I've googled "risen logic" and extracted the visual representation of it.

[image loading]

I am unsure what this means.

that just looks like a medieval triptych.
When i google image search "risen logic" this is the third result (honestly). humorously, the link goes to the previous game of thrones mafia game.

[image loading]

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

August 17 2013 19:52 GMT

#4153

On August 18 2013 04:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
oh we 100% can't kill johnny

why are we not lynching him then

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 17 2013 19:53 GMT

#4154

On August 18 2013 04:52 strongandbig wrote:

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why are we not lynching him then

dunno

how many hits should he have taken by now?

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 17 2013 19:54 GMT

#4155

also I think I already stated this, but I'm not using the lord kp tonight.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 17 2013 19:59 GMT

#4156

On August 18 2013 04:45 strongandbig wrote:

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if he's scum

So he bussed Vivax for funzies and laughs?

On August 18 2013 04:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
also I think I already stated this, but I'm not using the lord kp tonight.

Why... Mocsta screwed up, will get banned, but we should continue playing.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 17 2013 20:04 GMT

#4157

I am playing.

I'm just not going to use an advantage gained by cheating.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

August 17 2013 20:08 GMT

#4158

On August 18 2013 04:52 strongandbig wrote:

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LOLOL that picture :D I still remember that one. It was epic. Risen never disappoints (for amusement purposes).

I believe that... Risen and Onegu shot johnnywup? Probably? That means he still has 3-7 HP, I guess. But wouldn't the best course of action be to shoot him tonight, and if he still lives, finish him tomorrow? He should have like 1-3 HP at most by then... Even if there are several scum Lords, he would still die.

Of course the problem is that he's the only generally agreed scum at the moment. So there's the risk of mislynching, johnnywup not dying yet, and scum taking control in the Houses after 2-4 townies die simultaneously.

So it comes down to this...

Plan A
Lynch johnnywup
Shoot ???

Plan B
Lynch ???
Shoot johnnywup

But the more I think about it, the better plan B feels...
1) johnnywup is already damaged and thus the most logical KP target
2) johnnywup is the only player whom everyone would agree to shoot (except maybe Sharrant? dunno)
3) It's impossible to pressure him with the lynch (he'd probably just lurk until his death).
4) It would be more useful to lynch someone else (snb/Risen) to determine alignments, especially of the Lords, with how the voting goes.

Disagreements?