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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#3432
Ah nvm stupid me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:15 GMT
#3436
On August 16 2013 06:13 Risen wrote:
I'll be shooting Koshi, so I don't think it matters when I shoot. Just put me in a slot.


A bad and wasted choice. It's just 1 KP and helping scum most likely in any case. What does that achieve?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#3443
On August 16 2013 06:17 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:15 Xatalos wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:13 Risen wrote:
I'll be shooting Koshi, so I don't think it matters when I shoot. Just put me in a slot.


A bad and wasted choice. It's just 1 KP and helping scum most likely in any case. What does that achieve?


If we assume 7hp is base hp, then 1hp is rather huge wouldn't you say? (6 lords)


OK Risen. I'm saying Koshi is most likely town for PM reasons. And that you're helping scum by shooting him. Don't you get it? Just don't do it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:21 GMT
#3447
1-5 EDT Xatalos

5-9 EDT Risen? / FREE

9-13 EDT s0lstice

13-17 EDT Clarity

17-21 EDT Risen? / FREE

21-1 EDT Onegu
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:24 GMT
#3450
On August 16 2013 06:23 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Risen, how do you feel about shooting yourself?


I don't think that would be very productive. I'd rather have us shoot people to get them into lord range and lynch me. I'm going to be a very viable lynch target if Vivax flips red since I've been soft-pushing him and shit all game without actually acting, so I'm going to hang eventually. We should shoot people who aren't likely to be lynched but appear scummy down to 4/5 hp if we can tonight and then get coordinated lord shots to finish them off later depending on Vivax flip.

Shot targets tonight should be
johnnywup, Koshi, maybe SnB but he seems like another lynch candidate should Vivax flip red.


So do you agree about 1) Kush 2) johnnywup?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:27 GMT
#3453
On August 16 2013 06:25 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:24 Xatalos wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:23 Risen wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Risen, how do you feel about shooting yourself?


I don't think that would be very productive. I'd rather have us shoot people to get them into lord range and lynch me. I'm going to be a very viable lynch target if Vivax flips red since I've been soft-pushing him and shit all game without actually acting, so I'm going to hang eventually. We should shoot people who aren't likely to be lynched but appear scummy down to 4/5 hp if we can tonight and then get coordinated lord shots to finish them off later depending on Vivax flip.

Shot targets tonight should be
johnnywup, Koshi, maybe SnB but he seems like another lynch candidate should Vivax flip red.


So do you agree about 1) Kush 2) johnnywup?


Kush is already in lord KP kill range I thought.


Let's put it like this:

1-5 EDT Xatalos

5-9 EDT Risen

9-13 EDT s0lstice

13-17 EDT Clarity

17-21 EDT Sharrant

21-1 EDT Onegu

We shoot Kush until he dies. If you don't shoot him, we'll know. Because you're in second slot. When Kush flips the rest shoot into johnnywup. Agreed?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:31 GMT
#3456
On August 16 2013 06:30 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:27 Xatalos wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:25 Risen wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:24 Xatalos wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:23 Risen wrote:
On August 16 2013 06:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Risen, how do you feel about shooting yourself?


I don't think that would be very productive. I'd rather have us shoot people to get them into lord range and lynch me. I'm going to be a very viable lynch target if Vivax flips red since I've been soft-pushing him and shit all game without actually acting, so I'm going to hang eventually. We should shoot people who aren't likely to be lynched but appear scummy down to 4/5 hp if we can tonight and then get coordinated lord shots to finish them off later depending on Vivax flip.

Shot targets tonight should be
johnnywup, Koshi, maybe SnB but he seems like another lynch candidate should Vivax flip red.


So do you agree about 1) Kush 2) johnnywup?


Kush is already in lord KP kill range I thought.


Let's put it like this:

1-5 EDT Xatalos

5-9 EDT Risen

9-13 EDT s0lstice

13-17 EDT Clarity

17-21 EDT Sharrant

21-1 EDT Onegu

We shoot Kush until he dies. If you don't shoot him, we'll know. Because you're in second slot. When Kush flips the rest shoot into johnnywup. Agreed?


I just gave you a list of people I'd shoot. Kush was not one of those people.


.........Fine. Then what about this?

1-5 EDT Xatalos

5-9 EDT Sharrant

9-13 EDT s0lstice

13-17 EDT Clarity

17-21 EDT Risen

21-1 EDT Onegu

You shoot johnnywup when it's your turn. Agreed?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:35 GMT
#3458
Alright. This is the final kill list. 1) Kush 2) johnnywup

1-5 EDT Xatalos

5-9 EDT Sharrant

9-13 EDT s0lstice

13-17 EDT Clarity

17-21 EDT Risen

21-1 EDT Onegu

Sharrant, you said you didn't want to kill Kush either (no explanation though). IF THAT'S THE CASE, SHOOT JOHNNYWUP, BUT YOU BETTER EXPLAIN AS WELL......
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:40 GMT
#3459
Ah damn it Sharrant had a townread on johnnywup as well. I'll have to go to sleep soon so PLEASE convince Sharrant to shoot either Kush or johnnywup for me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:47 GMT
#3462
OK, it's time for pure gut reads. The bolded players I think are likely town. Please don't lynch/shoot any of them unless some good reason appears later on. The rest should be purged. I'm somewhat unsure about Grackaroni, rayn, Mocsta and Sharrant, but I think they're all more likely town than scum at the moment.

Dandel Ion
Onegu
Sharrant
s0lstice
Vivax
Chromatically
Clarity_nl
Grackaroni
raynpelikoneet
Koshi
johnnywup
Mocsta
strongandbig
Acrofoles
kushm4sta
Risen
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#3463
On August 16 2013 06:44 johnnywup wrote:
Where is sharrant? he said he'd be here pretty actively today


You're looking at several KP tonight. What do you think of that? Should you maybe do something to prevent us from choosing you today?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:52 GMT
#3464
Now I'm going to sleep.

Final thoughts: rayn said he "didn't have to do anything D2". Same story today. Sounds like a scummy mindset, but it's so hard to say with him. Mocsta needs to be kept under pressure and forced to participate. Grackaroni appeared townish during some PM conversations, but he hasn't done almost anything in thread, so keep an eye on him. Sharrant has been weirdly inactive and dodged questions. I don't like it one bit. He shouldn't get a free pass because of the redcheck.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:58 GMT
#3466
Also, Koshi and s0Lstice are most likely town for PM reasons. Don't lynch them unless there's a very good reason.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 04:37 GMT
#3599
On August 16 2013 10:57 Grackaroni wrote:
DI is not going to post any thought process for why I am scum, and frankly I don't think he has any. If Vivax does not flip red I will do everything in my power to see him lynched tomorrow.


I was thinking of making Grackaroni Lord to prepare for my (likely) death, but... Ugh. If we both vote for me and I die, does Grackaroni become Lord? I guess based on the question I asked pre-game (the last remaining member becoming a perma-Lord)?

Anyways, it might be somewhat useful to make Grackaroni Lord to get a better read on him. There's still the potential problem of scum gaining too much power (if Grackaroni is scum, I don't die and other Houses get scum Lords). Well, I guess I have 24 hours to decide on that.

Kush and johnnywup, I haven't yet seen anything from you two to make me not want to shoot you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 04:40 GMT
#3600
Also Sharrant still hasn't answered any of the questions hanging around his mysterious opinions. What gives?

Anything I should comment on before deadline?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 04:55 GMT
#3611
On August 16 2013 13:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:49 Onegu wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:45 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:37 Xatalos wrote:
On August 16 2013 10:57 Grackaroni wrote:
DI is not going to post any thought process for why I am scum, and frankly I don't think he has any. If Vivax does not flip red I will do everything in my power to see him lynched tomorrow.


I was thinking of making Grackaroni Lord to prepare for my (likely) death, but... Ugh. If we both vote for me and I die, does Grackaroni become Lord? I guess based on the question I asked pre-game (the last remaining member becoming a perma-Lord)?

Anyways, it might be somewhat useful to make Grackaroni Lord to get a better read on him. There's still the potential problem of scum gaining too much power (if Grackaroni is scum, I don't die and other Houses get scum Lords). Well, I guess I have 24 hours to decide on that.

Kush and johnnywup, I haven't yet seen anything from you two to make me not want to shoot you.

I would like to be lord for a cycle. Don't really know what you are rambling about I could just vote for myself



You have to have majority or there isnt a lord.

meh, well he isn't the only person who chooses the lord in a 2 person house.


We can discuss this more in PMs. For now I'm open to making you Lord. Mostly I'd want to retain Lord PMs if I live, but dunno, the same can be said for showing your stances better.

Are you really sure DI is scum......? Because there isn't even one game where he's played quite like this as scum AFAIK. And he has helped town, with Vivax's claim for example.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 04:59 GMT
#3614
GL HF!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 05:33 GMT
#3617
Huh isn't the deadline past 33min ago?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 05:45 GMT
#3619
On August 16 2013 14:35 Mocsta wrote:
Guess fell asleep. I hope this doesn't affect lord no deadlines agreed


I'll shoot immediately when the night starts... So no.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 16 2013 06:01 GMT
#3621
On August 16 2013 14:52 kushm4sta wrote:
plynch whatever noob lord decides to shoot me


So like almost 5-10 Lords?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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